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    Re: Skim milk might be unhealthy

    Quote Originally Posted by LowSky View Post
    Vit C is important, but not as much as Vit D. Most people eat enough vit c because its in so many fruits and veggies, but vit D is barely in food. the only way we get enough is to go sit outside for a bit, and because western society lives most of the time indoors we get low on the stuff.
    Apart from lifestyle, the problem is that the food we eat (fruit & veg') doesn't have the amount of nutrition that it had 50 years ago. If you have a search on it, you will find that the difference is remarkably large.

    So researchers such as Linux Pauling developed treatments using orthomolecular medicine which uses massive amounts more than what is called the RDA of certain vitamin & mineral combinations to bring about remarkable results.

    The people that think you just eat & drink a variety & in moderately are usually uninformed & still in the prime of their life. As you get older you can start to get a far more clearly defined understanding of your end & therefore ways to avoid certain diseases becomes more valid.

    A problem is, that for younger people they are eating food that is far less nutritious than I was at their age, for no other reason than the degradation bought about via monocultural farming practices & the desire to grow food that keeps longer, transports better & is more resistant to diseases (monsanto).

    These factors in combination with extended food storage in cool rooms & the fast food & beverage habits of so many means that they have a far greater chance of succumbing to cardiovascular disease, obesity, diabetes, cancer, psychological disorders & on it goes...

    So it is most certainly well worth while educating ourselves & spending a little extra on both the quality of our food & the appropriate supplements. If for no other reason than to have some control on the state of our health in the last 10 -> 20 years of our life.

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    Re: Skim milk might be unhealthy

    When I see something Fat Free, Light, Skim, Reduced Fat or anything even remotely similar, I just don't eat it. If you are worried about your weight, just eat less. Garbage food or complete abstinence from your favorite food will not work well for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Miro View Post
    When I see something Fat Free, Light, Skim, Reduced Fat or anything even remotely similar, I just don't eat it. If you are worried about your weight, just eat less. Garbage food or complete abstinence from your favourite food will not work well for you.
    Apart from weight issues due to poor nutrition there is arteriosclerosis which has its primary causes of inadequate nutrition in combination with too much of the wrong types of fat.

    Nutrition is not simple subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handy View Post
    If you go & read up on that study that made eggs bad for so many in the world for so long, you will find that the eggs the scientists used were all powdered eggs...

    As far as arteriosclerosis is concerned, some of the studies of Linus Pauling (two time Nobel prize winning research scientist) show that the most important nutrient to have lots off every day is vit' C. Lots of, meaning at least 3 grams/day.

    If you want to remove your accumulated arterial plaque, then double that dose for some time, then go & have "another" set of blood tests & see if you need to continue at that level or if you can then go back to the 3 grams maintenance dosage. Vit E, also helps as do some other nutrients, but vit' C is the one.

    90% of the pharmaceutically trained medical practitioners of course say that this is a load of rubbish. They may also say that taking large doses of vitamins is bad for your health.

    If you do a search on how many people died from vitamin overdoses last year, & then do a search on how many die from prescribed pharmaceuticals, you'll see that none died from vitamins & ~100,000 died from prescribed pharmaceuticals (U.S. figures).

    Most importantly, do your own research & then make your own choices, as it is your body/life.

    How do you want to spend the last 10->20 years of your life?

    Most people create the health conditions that they must live with in their last 2 decades, during their previous years. For most, it is possible to turn some of the damage that we do around fairly quickly - that is in a year or two. Though it takes commitment to do the research & then apply what is learned consistently.

    The young guns usually don't care about this stuff, as they still feel like they (their bodies) are immortal... I know I didn't.

    Now I know it isn't my body that is immortal...
    You left out vitamin D3 the sunshine vitamin for people who don't get enough sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snip3r8 View Post
    Lions milk is dangerous because if you milk a lion it might scratch you a little.
    What?

    As for the milk issue, I just get whole milk. Keeps things less complicated. Stores almost always have whole milk left over.

    I actually used to be lactose intolerant for a few years, but then I just started drinking milk again, and no issues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlinzzz View Post
    You left out vitamin D3 the sunshine vitamin for people who don't get enough sun.
    I wasn't writing a thesis on the subject.

    Like I said, people should do their own research. Though unfortunately most don't bother, & their medical practitioners rarely have any valuable training in nutrition. Though that is ever so slowly starting to change for the better here & there.

    The hold that the big pharmaceutical companies have on the medical profession is most unfortunate. Due to big pharma' medicine is about profiting from disease, not preventing it.

    Some facts using statistics from the U.S. follow:

    Medical schools receive large financial grants from the pharmaceutical industry.

    Over the past 50 years the medical industry has spent enormous resources and utilized the combined intellect of thousands of medical researchers trying to solve the great problem of heart disease. Yet, despite this enormous undertaking, Cardiovascular Disease (CVD) remains the top killer in the USA.

    $326,000,000,000 (yes, that’s billion!) is spent annually on treating heart disease (that’s $652,000 every minute) [American Heart Association]

    30,000,000,000 is spent annually on Coronary Bypass Operations.

    Survivors of Heart Attacks and Strokes frequently become disabled and eventually end up in Nursing Homes. $120,000,000,000 is spent annually on skilled nursing care.

    It is estimated the cost of treating all current heart patients in the USA with the Pauling Therapy at about $120 million annually (that’s less than 1/2 of 1% of 326 billion!)

    If someone were to discover a simple and inexpensive preventative and cure for cardiovascular disease, it would threaten the livelihoods of every employee of a pharmaceutical company, every investor in a pharmaceutical company, every hospital employee, every cardiologist, every employee of a cardiologist, every heart surgeon, everyone who assists in heart surgery from the nurses to the anesthesiologist to the person who sweeps the operating room floor. A simple and inexpensive preventative and cure for heart disease would cause such disruption to this “industry” that it would not be able to survive in anything like its present form.

    Hospitals, cardiologists and drug companies can not make a penny off of healthy people.

    Hospital administrators, cardiologists, and the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies know that they can not make a penny off of healthy people. Let me be clear, I do not believe that there is some kind of grand conspiracy going on or that everyone who works in the heart disease industry is evil. Most people working in this industry are good people who are simply ignorant. There are some, however, who know better (or who should know better). But I do not consider even these people to be evil. If I had spent tons of money and 16 years of my life leaning how to do coronary artery bypass surgery, I too would want to reap a good return on the investment of my time, money, and effort. I might not be very eager to learn about something that would make my knowledge and skills obsolete.

    Part of the problem may be the scientific method itself. Science writer Lynne McTaggart made the following observation in her book, The Field:

    “To be a revolutionary in science today is to flirt with professional suicide. Much as the field purports to encourage experimental freedom, the entire structure of science, with its competitive grant system, coupled with the publishing and peer review system, largely depends upon individuals conforming to the accepted scientific world view. The system tends to encourage professionals to carry out experimentation whose purpose is primarily to confirm the existing view of things, or to further develop technology for industry, rather than to serve up true innovation.” [HarperCollins Publishers, Inc., New York, NY, 2002, p 13 (hardcover)]
    Last edited by handy; September 11th, 2011 at 03:21 AM.

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    Re: Skim milk might be unhealthy

    It's debateable that any kind of milk is healthy as adults.

    60% of adults are lactose intolerant. the ability to digest milk as adults is really a genetic defect....

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    Re: Skim milk might be unhealthy

    Breathing is bad for you. Besides taking in pollutants oxygen also kills cells like rust.

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    Breathing is bad for you. Besides taking in pollutants oxygen also kills cells like rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mips View Post
    Breathing is bad for you. Besides taking in pollutants oxygen also kills cells like rust.
    That's why you need to have a good intake of antioxidants.

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