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    Cool Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    OK, so my laptop's not here right now, so I can't take a screenshot of my partitions, but I'll try to describe as well as possible.

    My laptop used to have 3 partitions. I think they were all primary.

    hda
    |-hda1 FAT32 Recovery partition (about 5GB)
    |-hda2 FAT32 Windows XP (about 35GB)
    |-hda3 NTFS Windows Vista (about 35GB)

    I removed Windows XP and replaced it with Linux and a swap partition. I wanted this to be an extended partition with two logical partitions: one ext4 30GB for linux and a 5GB partition for swap, looking something like this (I'm just guessing at partition naming):

    hda
    |-hda1 FAT32 Recovery partition (about 5GB)
    |-hda2 extended partition (35GB)
    | |-hda5 ext4 Kubuntu (30GB)
    | |-hda6 swap (5GB)
    |-hda3 NTFS Windows Vista (about 35GB)

    But I guess I must have done it wrong, as it now looks more like this and grub won't recognise Vista (I can't boot into it, even after re-making the grub config):

    hda
    |-hda1 FAT32 Recovery partition (about 5GB)
    |-hda2 ext4 Kubuntu (30GB)
    |-hda3 extended partition (5GB)
    | |-hda5 swap (5GB)
    |-hda4 NTFS Windows Vista (about 35GB)

    Does this give me too many partitions at the base level or could there be another reason vista won't boot?

    For the purposes of this post, I'm am defining these as follows (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)

    Primary partition: A single, undivided partition on the hard drive, does not contain any other partitions.
    Extended partition: A partition which can contain one or more logical partitions, almost like folders.
    Logical partition: A partition which exists (must exist) within an extended partition.

    Thanks a lot for any help,

    Rob
    Last edited by megamasha; July 12th, 2011 at 06:30 PM. Reason: Read up on linux partition numbering a little and adjusted example partition names accordingly

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    Once you have access to the machine in question, could you run this boot script and post the results.txt here? It will show exactly what's going on with your partitions, and grub.
    http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

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                      Boot Info Script 0.60    from 17 May 2011
    
    
    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================
    
     => Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of 
        the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks 
        for ?? on this drive.
    
    sda1: __________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       vfat
        Boot sector type:  Windows XP: FAT32
        Boot sector info:   No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
        Operating System:  
        Boot files:        /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM
    
    sda2: __________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ext4
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
        Operating System:  Ubuntu 11.04
        Boot files:        /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img
    
    sda3: __________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ntfs
        Boot sector type:  Windows XP
        Boot sector info:   No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
        Operating System:  Windows Vista
        Boot files:        /Windows/System32/winload.exe
    
    sda4: __________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       Extended Partition
        Boot sector type:  Unknown
        Boot sector info:  
    
    sda5: __________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       swap
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
    
    ============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================
    
    Drive: sda _____________________________________________________________________
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    
    Partition  Boot  Start Sector    End Sector  # of Sectors  Id System
    
    /dev/sda1                  63    10,233,404    10,233,342  12 Compaq diagnostics
    /dev/sda2          10,233,856   150,857,727   140,623,872  83 Linux
    /dev/sda3    *    160,890,975   312,576,704   151,685,730   7 NTFS / exFAT / HPFS
    /dev/sda4         150,859,774   160,890,879    10,031,106   5 Extended
    /dev/sda5         150,859,776   160,890,879    10,031,104  82 Linux swap / Solaris
    
    
    "blkid" output: ________________________________________________________________
    
    Device           UUID                                   TYPE       LABEL
    
    /dev/sda1        0E4E-05CE                              vfat       PQSERVICE
    /dev/sda2        4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af   ext4       
    /dev/sda3        50280A4B280A3090                       ntfs       Vista
    /dev/sda5        752f0d89-a2fb-48cc-846a-376b6cfe5d6a   swap       
    
    ================================ Mount points: =================================
    
    Device           Mount_Point              Type       Options
    
    /dev/sda2        /                        ext4       (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=600)
    /dev/sda3        /windows                 fuseblk    (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=512,default_permissions)
    
    
    =========================== sda2/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    #
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    #
    # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    #
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
      set have_grubenv=true
      load_env
    fi
    set default="0"
    if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
      set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
      save_env saved_entry
      set prev_saved_entry=
      save_env prev_saved_entry
      set boot_once=true
    fi
    
    function savedefault {
      if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
        saved_entry="${chosen}"
        save_env saved_entry
      fi
    }
    
    function recordfail {
      set recordfail=1
      if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
    }
    
    function load_video {
      insmod vbe
      insmod vga
      insmod video_bochs
      insmod video_cirrus
    }
    
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
      set gfxmode=auto
      load_video
      insmod gfxterm
    fi
    terminal_output gfxterm
    if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
      set timeout=-1
    else
      set timeout=10
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    set menu_color_normal=white/black
    set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
    if background_color 0,71,115; then
      clear
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    if [ ${recordfail} != 1 ]; then
      if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
        if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
          if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
            set linux_gfx_mode=keep
          else
            set linux_gfx_mode=text
          fi
        else
          set linux_gfx_mode=text
        fi
      else
        set linux_gfx_mode=keep
      fi
    else
      set linux_gfx_mode=text
    fi
    export linux_gfx_mode
    if [ "$linux_gfx_mode" != "text" ]; then load_video; fi
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-10-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    	recordfail
    	set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af ro   quiet splash vt.handoff=7
    	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
    }
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-10-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    	recordfail
    	set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	echo	'Loading Linux 2.6.38-10-generic ...'
    	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af ro single 
    	echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
    }
    submenu "Previous Linux versions" {
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    	recordfail
    	set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af ro   quiet splash vt.handoff=7
    	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
    }
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    	recordfail
    	set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	echo	'Loading Linux 2.6.38-8-generic ...'
    	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af ro single 
    	echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
    }
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin
    }
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod ext2
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4526ec76-586b-45d3-aff8-0380befe15af
    	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    menuentry "Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda1)" --class windows --class os {
    	insmod part_msdos
    	insmod fat
    	set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
    	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0e4e-05ce
    	drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    	chainloader +1
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    if [ -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
      source $prefix/custom.cfg;
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    =============================== sda2/etc/fstab: ================================
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
    # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
    # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
    #
    # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
    proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
    /dev/sda2       /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
    # /windows was on /dev/sda3 during installation
    UUID=50280A4B280A3090 /windows        ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
    # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
    UUID=752f0d89-a2fb-48cc-846a-376b6cfe5d6a none            swap    sw              0       0
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    =================== sda2: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================
    
               GiB - GB             File                                 Fragment(s)
    
      49.048786163 = 52.665733120   boot/grub/core.img                             1
      59.494369507 = 63.881592832   boot/grub/grub.cfg                             1
       8.011035919 = 8.601784320    boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic              3
       7.942382812 = 8.528068608    boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic               2
      11.157539368 = 11.980316672   boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic                 2
      49.047061920 = 52.663881728   boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic                  1
       8.011035919 = 8.601784320    initrd.img                                     3
       7.942382812 = 8.528068608    initrd.img.old                                 2
      11.157539368 = 11.980316672   vmlinuz                                        2
      49.047061920 = 52.663881728   vmlinuz.old                                    1
    
    ======================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc: ========================
    
    Unknown BootLoader on sda4
    
    00000000  29 2d 02 05 e1 30 9a d1  33 e8 9b bd ae 3a a0 05  |)-...0..3....:..|
    00000010  c0 21 00 d0 86 18 12 4c  2f 92 b1 24 7e 20 ec 3c  |.!.....L/..$~ .<|
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    =============================== StdErr Messages: ===============================
    
    To be able to see for which directory Grub2 (v1.99) looks for, install "unlzma".

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    Vista's on sda3. Have you tried running sudo update-grub from within Kubuntu?

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    You are missing two of the three boot files required in sda3. Probably windows moved them to your first install as it copies those boot files to the first windows install.

    Vista/7
    /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe

    Multibooters, Pictures here worth 1000+ words
    http://www.multibooters.co.uk/multiboot.html

    You need to run windows repairs to restore the bootmgr & BCD files. Then grub will find it as a bootable partition.

    oldfred's Windows Vista/Win7 repair links posts #7 & #9:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9826152
    Make sure boot flag is set for any partition you try to repair.
    For more info on UEFI boot install & repair - Regularly Updated :
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    Thanks, I'd never have worked that one out without HOURS of research into how windows boots!

    I suppose the first windows (where Vista probably moved the missing files) would be either the recovery partition (which loads WinXP to some extent, at least has an XP loading screen, I've never actually bothered letting it boot up) or the old XP partition which I've replaced with linux.
    In the latter case, they're gone and I guess I'll have to fish around for the Vista disc to run boot repair. Presumably I'll then have to reinstall grub from the live CD?
    If they're on the recovery partition, is it possible to just copy them to the Vista partition?

    Thanks

    MM

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    One user posted that he copied bootmgr from a windows repair and copied the BCD and then was somehow able to update the BCD with the correct partition info. Not sure of details. Try bcdEdit or the commands to repair the BCD.

    If you run auto repair then you may have to reinstall grub2's boot loader. If you run the manual repairs from the windows command line then do not run fixMBR as that is the part that overwrites grub's boot loader in the MBR.

    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...t-how-use.html

    Some advanced BCD rebuild, Vista post #17 on:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426103
    http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD
    Last edited by oldfred; July 20th, 2011 at 12:34 AM.
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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    Well the good news is, I've found the Vista disc, having read through the links you (oldfred) sent me, I feel confident in using it to restore my Vista bootablility.

    @Ann (oldos2er): Thanks for the tip, but I'd already tried that.

    Of course, I wouldn't need to get Vista up and running again if WINE worked better on x64 systems...

    I'll zap the PBR and necessary files back onto my Vista partition when I next get access to my Laptop (likely Friday) and will update here with the result.

    Thanks once again!

    MM

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    Re: Installed Kubuntu 11.04, grub doesn't see Windows Vista

    OK, we're in.
    The boot files were on the the XP drive that I had replaced with Linux, so I needed to run Vista boot repair. This will not recognise your windows installation if the partition is not flagged as boot. The first attempt did nothing, then I ran the commands in the link you gave me (I didn't need to rebuild the MBR). Then I ran update-grup2 from linux, but it still didn't show Visa, so I ran automatic repair AGAIN, updated grub AGAIN and then it worked.

    Job well done, thanks very much for all your help. Now I can got on to thrashing my girlfriend at various games

    MM

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