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  1. #1
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    init services not startable?

    I was having problems with cron and noticed the daemon wasn't running, and now it seems maybe init isn't starting any services. Is that possible?

    Code:
    # initctl list
    ...gives no output. Nor does "start cron" or "status cron". When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 (,F2, etc.) it looks like the consoles haven't even started. It does seem like some stuff is started, but I'm not familiar with this enough to have a clue what's going on:

    Code:
    $ ps aux | grep daemon
    root       361  0.0  0.0  17052   292 ?        S    13:26   0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
    root       383  0.0  0.0  21856   924 ?        S<s  13:26   0:00 udevd --daemon
    102        872  0.0  0.1  24952  2196 ?        Ss   13:26   0:03 dbus-daemon --system --fork --activation=upstart
    avahi      894  0.0  0.0  32128   992 ?        S    13:26   0:00 avahi-daemon: running [slartibartfast.local]
    avahi      895  0.0  0.0  32008   132 ?        S    13:26   0:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
    root       901  0.0  0.1  61972  2472 ?        Sl   13:26   0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
    macho     1061  0.0  0.1  26528  2692 ?        Ss   13:26   0:01 //bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
    macho     1077  0.0  0.0  88548  1500 ?        Sl   13:26   0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11
    macho     1080  0.0  0.5 424660  9152 ?        Ssl  13:26   0:01 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
    macho     1091  0.0  0.0  81008  1100 ?        Ssl  13:26   0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/macho/.gvfs
    rtkit     1100  0.0  0.0  37628   876 ?        SNl  13:26   0:00 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
    macho     1157  0.0  0.4 116516  7520 ?        Sl   13:26   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon
    root      1299  0.0  0.1  62148  2240 ?        Sl   13:27   0:00 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
    root      1300  0.0  0.0  45168   496 ?        S    13:27   0:00 udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0
    macho     1411  0.0  0.3 221972  6860 ?        S    13:27   0:00 /usr/lib/bamf/bamfdaemon
    macho     1425  0.0  0.1 111376  2356 ?        Sl   13:27   0:00 /usr/lib/unity-place-files/unity-files-daemon
    macho     1426  0.0  0.2 134820  5288 ?        Sl   13:27   0:00 /usr/lib/unity-place-applications/unity-applications-daemon
    macho     1544  0.0  0.2 176844  4084 ?        S    13:27   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-disk-utility/gdu-notification-daemon
    macho     1565  0.1  0.4 298912  8780 ?        Sl   13:27   0:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
    macho     4622  0.0  0.0   9140  1020 pts/1    S+   14:51   0:00 grep daemon
    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by macho; May 23rd, 2011 at 08:52 PM. Reason: missing last line

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    Re: init services not startable?

    bump

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    Re: init services not startable?

    To see your init.d

    Code:
    ls /etc/init.d
    to check if cron is running

    Code:
    ps -ef | grep -i cron
    to start|stop|restart a service (like cron)

    Code:
    sudo service cron start|restart|stop

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    Re: init services not startable?

    Thanks. For some reason this doesn't seem to work:

    Code:
    $ sudo service cron start
    This gives no output (apart from asking for my password).

    Code:
    $ ps -ef | grep -i cron
    macho     6446  6438  0 08:13 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i cron
    $ ls /etc/init.d/ -1
    acpid
    acpi-support
    alsa-restore
    alsa-store
    anacron
    apparmor
    apport
    atd
    atieventsd
    avahi-daemon
    binfmt-support
    bluetooth
    bootlogd
    brltty
    console-setup
    cron
    cups
    dbus
    dmesg
    dns-clean
    ecryptfs-utils-restore
    ecryptfs-utils-save
    failsafe-x
    fancontrol
    gdm
    grub-common
    halt
    hostname
    hwclock
    hwclock-save
    irqbalance
    kerneloops
    killprocs
    lm-sensors
    module-init-tools
    networking
    network-interface
    network-interface-security
    network-manager
    ondemand
    pcmciautils
    plymouth
    plymouth-log
    plymouth-splash
    plymouth-stop
    plymouth-upstart-bridge
    pppd-dns
    procps
    pulseaudio
    rc
    rc.local
    rcS
    README
    reboot
    rsync
    rsyslog
    saned
    screen-cleanup
    sendsigs
    setvtrgb
    single
    skeleton
    speech-dispatcher
    stop-bootlogd
    stop-bootlogd-single
    sudo
    udev
    udev-fallback-graphics
    udev-finish
    udevmonitor
    udevtrigger
    ufw
    umountfs
    umountnfs.sh
    umountroot
    unattended-upgrades
    urandom
    x11-common

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    Re: init services not startable?

    Does

    Code:
    sudo service cron restart
    give any output? Maybe something like:

    cron start/running, process 12345?

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    Re: init services not startable?

    No output for "sudo service cron restart".

    I checked /var/log/syslog afterward and I can see pam_sm_authenticate stuff for the invocation of sudo, but nothing else.

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    Re: init services not startable?

    Can you please run the following commands

    Code:
    sudo apt-get purge upstart
    sudo apt-get install upstart
    then log out, log back in, and retry

    Code:
    sudo service cron restart

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    Re: init services not startable?

    What is the O/P of

    Code:
    dpkg -L cron
    grep -v ^# /etc/init/cron.conf
    sudo start cron;tail -10 /var/log/syslog
    sudo /etc/init.d/cron start

  9. #9
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    Re: init services not startable?

    Thanks. I couldn't purge upstart, seemingly because of dependency problems:

    Code:
    $ sudo apt-get purge upstart
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help resolve the situation:
    
    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
     procps : Depends: upstart-job
              Depends: initscripts but it is not going to be installed
    E: Broken packages
    webofunni: here's the output.

    Code:
    $ dpkg -L cron
    /.
    /usr
    /usr/bin
    /usr/bin/crontab
    /usr/sbin
    /usr/sbin/cron
    /usr/share
    /usr/share/man
    /usr/share/man/man1
    /usr/share/man/man1/crontab.1.gz
    /usr/share/man/man5
    /usr/share/man/man5/crontab.5.gz
    /usr/share/man/man8
    /usr/share/man/man8/cron.8.gz
    /usr/share/doc
    /usr/share/doc/cron
    /usr/share/doc/cron/FEATURES
    /usr/share/doc/cron/THANKS
    /usr/share/doc/cron/README
    /usr/share/doc/cron/README.anacron
    /usr/share/doc/cron/README.Debian
    /usr/share/doc/cron/TODO.Debian
    /usr/share/doc/cron/copyright
    /usr/share/doc/cron/examples
    /usr/share/doc/cron/examples/stats-cron.pl.gz
    /usr/share/doc/cron/examples/crontab2english.pl.gz
    /usr/share/doc/cron/NEWS.Debian.gz
    /usr/share/doc/cron/changelog.Debian.gz
    /usr/share/bug
    /usr/share/bug/cron
    /usr/share/bug/cron/script
    /usr/share/bug/cron/control
    /etc
    /etc/cron.hourly
    /etc/cron.hourly/.placeholder
    /etc/cron.daily
    /etc/cron.daily/.placeholder
    /etc/cron.daily/standard
    /etc/cron.weekly
    /etc/cron.weekly/.placeholder
    /etc/cron.monthly
    /etc/cron.monthly/.placeholder
    /etc/cron.d
    /etc/cron.d/.placeholder
    /etc/init.d
    /etc/pam.d
    /etc/pam.d/cron
    /etc/init
    /etc/init/cron.conf
    /etc/default
    /etc/default/cron
    /etc/crontab
    /var
    /var/spool
    /var/spool/cron
    /var/spool/cron/crontabs
    /etc/init.d/cron
    Code:
    $ grep -v ^# /etc/init/cron.conf 
    
    description	"regular background program processing daemon"
    
    start on runlevel [2345]
    stop on runlevel [!2345]
    
    expect fork
    respawn
    
    exec cron
    Code:
    $ sudo start cron;tail -10 /var/log/syslog
    May 24 03:45:56 localhost kernel: [51546.572735] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1c:f0:43:7f:72 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)
    May 24 03:45:56 localhost kernel: [51546.572737] wlan0: associated
    May 24 05:39:23 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called
    May 24 05:39:23 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [macho]
    May 24 08:13:50 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called
    May 24 08:13:50 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [macho]
    May 24 09:09:03 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called
    May 24 09:09:03 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [macho]
    May 24 23:13:24 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called
    May 24 23:13:24 localhost sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [macho]
    Code:
    $ sudo /etc/init.d/cron start
    Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
    utility, e.g. service cron start
    
    Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
    Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start cron

  10. #10
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    Re: init services not startable?

    Are you able to start it using

    Code:
    sudo /usr/sbin/cron
    ?

    You can try the following commands for upstart to avoid dep problem.

    Code:
    sudo dpkg -P --force depends upstart
    sudo apt-get install upstart

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