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    installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    When I load into winXP I can see the files for winXP and win7. When I load into ubuntu I can only see winXP. i did a sudo update-grub and got the windows loader, which then shows me winXP and ubuntu. what i would love is one boot page that has listed winXP, win7, and ubuntu. FWIW this is an acer netbook, winXP is on D:/ and win7 is on F:/, i used the windows installer wubi for ubuntu 10.10.

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    ** Wubi Install ** my instructions were wrong...
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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    Windows combines it's boot files when you install a new windows on a computer with an existing windows. So there is only one 'boot partition' and therefore Ubuntu can only see one.

    If you installed with Wubi, you cannot use Grub to boot - you have to go through the windows boot manager. If you try and bypass the windows boot manager, then only the Wubi will boot, and fixing this is difficult.

    If you want to use grub instead of the windows boot manager, replace Wubi with a normal dual boot. You'll still only be able to boot xp and win7 via the windows boot manager.

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    ? was to the wubi installation instruction note.

    to the later one...i think i understand, but have some questions but need to reboot to clarify what the current status is. brb
    Last edited by chrisneedshelp; April 13th, 2011 at 06:22 AM.

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    okay, so when i boot i am in the windows boot loader and have a choice of windows xp or ubuntu. if i choose windows xp it loads windows xp. if i choose ubuntu it loads grub and i can choose ubuntu or windows 7 loader. If i then choose ubuntu it loads ubuntu 10.10 and if I choose windows 7 loader it loads be back to the original page.

    i think i may have got myself into a mess.

    Generally I would have just loaded win7 into a partition less than the disc size, then winXP, leaving disc size, then ubuntu. on this occasion i hadn't that option as there is no win7 disc available so I was trying to do this without needing to load win7.

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    Ok... if you install an earlier version of windows on a computer with a newer version already installed, then it doesn't combine the boot files. So XP likely doesn't know about windows 7, but it would have set it's partition as the boot partition.

    I'm not really clear on what's going on, but I'd suggest running the bootinfoscript.

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    i am trying to use that but despite being absolutely sure i am typing the correct directory it repeatedly says not such file or directory....ugh

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    go it...

    Code:
                    Boot Info Script 0.55    dated February 15th, 2010                    
    
    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================
    
     => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda
    
    sda1: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       Extended Partition
        Boot sector type:  Unknown
        Boot sector info:  
    
    sda5: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ntfs
        Boot sector type:  Windows XP
        Boot sector info:  According to the info in the boot sector, sda5 starts 
                           at sector 63.
        Operating System:  Windows XP
        Boot files/dirs:   
    
    sda2: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ntfs
        Boot sector type:  Windows XP
        Boot sector info:  No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
        Operating System:  
        Boot files/dirs:   /boot.ini /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM 
                           /wubildr.mbr /wubildr
    
    sda3: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ntfs
        Boot sector type:  Windows Vista/7
        Boot sector info:  No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
        Operating System:  Windows 7
        Boot files/dirs:   /Windows/System32/winload.exe /wubildr.mbr 
                           /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr /wubildr 
                           /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr /ubuntu/disks/root.disk 
                           /ubuntu/disks/swap.disk
    
    sda3/Wubi: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ext4
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
        Operating System:  Ubuntu 10.10
        Boot files/dirs:   /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab
    
    =========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================
    
    Drive: sda ___________________ _____________________________________________________
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    
    Partition  Boot         Start           End          Size  Id System
    
    /dev/sda1              16,065    25,157,789    25,141,725   f W95 Ext d (LBA)
    /dev/sda5              16,128    25,157,789    25,141,662   7 HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda2    *     25,167,872    25,372,671       204,800   7 HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda3          25,382,700   312,579,759   287,197,060   7 HPFS/NTFS
    
    
    blkid -c /dev/null: ____________________________________________________________
    
    Device           UUID                                   TYPE       LABEL                         
    
    /dev/loop0       f1fc1f84-8b01-4d65-ad70-5e2b7de101b1   ext4                                     
    /dev/sda1: PTTYPE="dos" 
    /dev/sda2        7EF6DD81F6DD39DB                       ntfs       SYSTEM RESERVED               
    /dev/sda3        1646DFA446DF8343                       ntfs       Acer                          
    /dev/sda5        20C4F49FC4F4787C                       ntfs                                     
    /dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos" 
    
    ============================ "mount | grep ^/dev  output: ===========================
    
    Device           Mount_Point              Type       Options
    
    /dev/loop0       /                        ext4       (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
    /dev/sda3        /host                    fuseblk    (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
    
    
    ================================ sda2/boot.ini: ================================
    
    [boot loader]
    
    timeout=30
    
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS
    
    [operating systems]
    
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
    
    C:\wubildr.mbr = "Ubuntu"
    
    
    ======================== sda3/Wubi/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ========================
    
    #
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    #
    # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    #
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
      set have_grubenv=true
      load_env
    fi
    set default="0"
    if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
      set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
      save_env saved_entry
      set prev_saved_entry=
      save_env prev_saved_entry
      set boot_once=true
    fi
    
    function savedefault {
      if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
        saved_entry="${chosen}"
        save_env saved_entry
      fi
    }
    
    function recordfail {
      set recordfail=1
      if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
    }
    
    function load_video {
    }
    
    if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
      set timeout=-1
    else
      set timeout=10
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    set menu_color_normal=white/black
    set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
    ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###
    menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.35-22-generic" {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ntfs
        set root='(hd0,msdos3)'
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 1646dfa446df8343
        loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
        set root=(loop0)
        linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=/dev/sda3 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro   quiet splash
        initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
    }
    menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.35-22-generic (recovery mode)" {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ntfs
        set root='(hd0,msdos3)'
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 1646dfa446df8343
        loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
        set root=(loop0)
        linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=/dev/sda3 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single 
        initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ntfs
        set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 7ef6dd81f6dd39db
        chainloader +1
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    if [ -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
      source $prefix/custom.cfg;
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    
    ============================= sda3/Wubi/etc/fstab: =============================
    
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
    # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
    # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
    #
    # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
    proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
    /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /               ext4    loop,errors=remount-ro 0       1
    /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none            swap    loop,sw         0       0
    
    ================= sda3/Wubi: Location of files loaded by Grub: =================
    
    
       4.5GB: boot/grub/grub.cfg
        .9GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
      13.6GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic
        .9GB: initrd.img
      13.6GB: vmlinuz
    =========================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc =======================
    
    Unknown BootLoader  on sda1
    
    00000000  49 c4 e9 6f 01 9b e3 2f  34 87 f1 e5 ef c7 61 a5  |I..o.../4.....a.|
    00000010  8a 12 05 48 ad ae ee 53  b1 bc 78 4a 35 21 09 14  |...H...S..xJ5!..|
    00000020  cb ab 01 00 55 a3 db dd  5a 51 80 34 47 e7 c4 f5  |....U...ZQ.4G...|
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    00000040  64 19 19 f2 11 4f 2a 30  bb 4e e3 95 6d 2b 36 ec  |d....O*0.N..m+6.|
    00000050  eb 16 86 2a 56 e2 c1 a0  bb 38 68 5e 02 25 62 77  |...*V....8h^.%bw|
    00000060  8f 2b 0c 80 2b 09 c6 d6  de be 06 20 95 04 9c b4  |.+..+...... ....|
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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    It looks to me that XP has hijacked your win7 boot partition. The win7 boot files are there, but they are being ignored. So Ubuntu thinks it's win7, but it just boots XP (the boot sector is XP). So you probably need to boot from a windows 7 repair disc that you can download, and then repair your win 7 and it should pick up win 7 as well as XP. Then you'll end up with Win7 or XP, XP or Ubuntu, Ubuntu or Win7.

    http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/window...-repair-discs/

    Check out microsoft or windows forums for other people who have done this. (You are not alone)

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    Re: installed winxp alongside win7 and then ubuntu 10.10, can't load win 7

    seems clear enough said the blind man in front of a cliff...i'll be happy to try it and post feedback. thank you for your help.

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