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Yup, Oracle has started its bullying:
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...nclick_check=1
Larry Ellison is such a schmuck. He's going to crap on every single open source app Sun built or maintained. Good knowing ya MySQL, Virtual Box, Solaris, Java...
Sam
5 Cups of Ubuntu
Comparing the size of Oracle to Google, I dont think Oracle will be doing much of the bullying here, I think they have tried to bite more than what they can chew.
I want Sun back.
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It seems very much like a frivolous lawsuit, unless there is something not revealed.
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Interesting. I didn't know you had to have Oracle's permission to use Java. Odd
Did Sun ever pursue stuff like this?
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Details and copy of papers here http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20...?tag=cnetRiver
It will be interesting. Google have been pushing their luck of late.
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Nonono, what I meant was, before Sun was acquired by Oracle, did they pursue stuff like this.
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Yes, they had a very long legal battle with Microsoft as one example.
Sun was concerned about Googles actions just prior to take over.
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Doesn't make much sense to me, last time I checked Java and Android are both open source software.
Wouldn't that be like Debian suing Canonical?
Way Too Much Ubuntu
This article sheds some light on this subject:
http://goo.gl/aHPhWhen Google developed Android it included a Java compatible technology called Dalvik with the phone OS. Dalvik was developed as a "clean room" version of Java, meaning Google built it from the ground up without using any Sun technology or intellectual property, said Gartner analyst Ken Dulaney.
"You can't just take a Java application from a Sun environment, where it's licensed, and run it on Android. You have to recompile it to Dalvik," Dulaney said.
Oracle says Dalvik is a competitor to Java and infringes several of its patents, which it lists in the complaint, and its Java copyright.
It was unclear Thursday if Oracle approached Google to discuss its concerns before it filed the lawsuit.
Oracle's motivation was probably Android's recent success in the smartphone market, Dulaney said. "They own Sun now and they want to collect the royalties on the language," he said.
Oracle alleges that Google was aware of its patents and "willfully and deliberately" infringed them. It also says Google hired some of Sun's Java engineers. It wants the court to block the alleged infringement and award it damages.
Dulaney said Oracle's case could be "hard to prove" and that a legal battle could take a long time. "What they'll have to argue about is whether Google did a purely clean-room Java or if they have someone with inside knowledge of the code," he said.
Dalvik is one option for writing Android applications; developers can also use HTML 5 and the C language. But Dalvik is used for some of the core Android applications, such as email, Dulaney said.
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