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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    SLI in something small? Rare at best.

    You might be able to get 2xDVI and 1xHDMI working from a single card, like this one-

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125311

    Pity its a dual-slot design, it wont fit in this shutle system thats worth a look-

    http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/Models/SA76G2.html

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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    Quote Originally Posted by cascade9 View Post
    SLI in something small? Rare at best.

    You might be able to get 2xDVI and 1xHDMI working from a single card, like this one-

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125311

    Pity its a dual-slot design, it wont fit in this shutle system thats worth a look-

    http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/Models/SA76G2.html
    That video card looks nice but comments say it really loud and despite heaving 2 DVI ports it CAN'T push 2 displays. Although, guy said it can't push 2x30" which is quite a resolution.

    Shuttle systems, I completely forgot about them. Thanks for bringing them up. I'll have a look.

    It seems to me that I'll have to make a custom machine after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanEYE View Post
    I want it to be a brand-name computer, not custom made.
    That seems silly because you have some pretty specific requirements and putting parts you ordered from TigerDirect and or Newegg would fulfill it easily. Not to mention you'd save money in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanEYE View Post
    That video card looks nice but comments say it really loud and despite heaving 2 DVI ports it CAN'T push 2 displays. Although, guy said it can't push 2x30" which is quite a resolution.
    You mean the comment on the newegg page? "Single dual-link DVI output, despite two DVI ports. Can't drive two 30" monitors." Dual-link is waht is needed to push very big resolutions-

    With a single DVI link, the largest resolution possible at 60 Hz is 2.75 megapixels (including blanking interval). For practical purposes, this allows a maximum screen resolution at 60 Hz of 1915 x 1436 pixels (standard 4:3 ratio), 1854 x 1483 pixels (5:4 ratio) or 2098 x 1311 (widescreen 16:10 ratio)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

    As long as you are under those resolutions, it will display to 2 monitor via DVI just fine.

    True, it will be a very loud card, but you could always just change the stock heatsink/fan for something a lot quieter.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanEYE View Post
    Shuttle systems, I completely forgot about them. Thanks for bringing them up. I'll have a look.

    It seems to me that I'll have to make a custom machine after all.
    If you do have to go custom, try to find a 'e' series AMD CPU (low wattage) or even a 'u' series (ultra-low wattage). The 'u' series havent got as much go as the normal AMD CPUs or the 'e's.

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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    Quote Originally Posted by KingYaba View Post
    That seems silly because you have some pretty specific requirements and putting parts you ordered from TigerDirect and or Newegg would fulfill it easily. Not to mention you'd save money in the process.
    True, it would fulfill my requirements easily but then again, I'd have to go with midi ATX case at least with 600W PSU and all other noisy things. That's the thing I want to avoid. Money is not the issue...
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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    Quote Originally Posted by cascade9 View Post
    You mean the comment on the newegg page? "Single dual-link DVI output, despite two DVI ports. Can't drive two 30" monitors." Dual-link is waht is needed to push very big resolutions-


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

    As long as you are under those resolutions, it will display to 2 monitor via DVI just fine.
    Yup, that's what I though when I said 30" is quite big. I have 2x19" with 1440x900 resolution.

    True, it will be a very loud card, but you could always just change the stock heatsink/fan for something a lot quieter.
    Am considering finding 2 cards with passive cooling system. That way they can be quiet and I'd have my requirements for output connectors fulfilled.

    If you do have to go custom, try to find a 'e' series AMD CPU (low wattage) or even a 'u' series (ultra-low wattage). The 'u' series havent got as much go as the normal AMD CPUs or the 'e's.
    Thanks a lot... that's actually what I wanted to find out with this thread. I'll look into it
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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanEYE View Post
    True, it would fulfill my requirements easily but then again, I'd have to go with midi ATX case at least with 600W PSU and all other noisy things. That's the thing I want to avoid. Money is not the issue...
    Nah, you wouldnt need to go to MidiATX or 600watts.

    Easy to get a microATX motherboard.....you can even get AMD/ATI microATX motherboards with crossfire in case you need 2 cards-

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128445

    As for the power supply, have a look at this-

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cas...m-wattage.html

    And-

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...rclocking.html

    Yes, teh 2nd article does concentrate on power consumption with overclocking, but it does give 'base' unoverclocked power consumption figures.

    BTW, if did feel that you wanted 600watts ('to be sure') then have a look at this-

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/Seasonic_X650

    Yep, a 6500watts PSU that will operate in totally fanless mode at low loads

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    Re: Help in choosing new computer

    The wattage link is a load of horse crap. The PM300 meter used is legendary for being a horrid piece of f- ... you know. I own one among a couple of other similar gadgets. Well, it works on linear loads such as light bulbs and toasters, but you can get completely random readings with ATX power supplies without proper power factor correction. And by random I mean half of the actual value or twice the actual value.

    Edit: Okay, I just read it now. It's not a load of horse crap but the meter is.

    See this for fun if you own a cheap generic wattage meter (they're not all bad): http://www.hiit.fi/files/admin/publi...-tr-2009-1.pdf

    But anyway, there's an abundance of compact cases suitable for your purposes even if they're labeled as HTPC cases. The silent, energy efficient mediaputer trend works to everyone's advantage if you ask me. Not even above average powerful PCs require that much power apart from the graphics card, so in case you aren't going for hardcore gaming with 4 power-hungry cards even a measly 350W might be enough. Doesn't hurt to have a bit higher, of course.

    Some 9xxx NVIDIA card (or even 8-series) might work worders, given they have the necessary outputs. The new ones have been known to perform even worse, but they have support for the latest fancy schmancies.

    I think I should stop rambling uncontrollably now. Coffee time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breambutt View Post
    The wattage link is a load of horse crap. The PM300 meter used is legendary for being a horrid piece of f- ... you know. I own one among a couple of other similar gadgets. Well, it works on linear loads such as light bulbs and toasters, but you can get completely random readings with ATX power supplies without proper power factor correction. And by random I mean half of the actual value or twice the actual value.

    Edit: Okay, I just read it now. It's not a load of horse crap but the meter is.
    LOL, I was just about to say "but they arent using that PM300 meter". But you just figured it out

    Quote Originally Posted by Breambutt View Post
    But anyway, there's an abundance of compact cases suitable for your purposes even if they're labeled as HTPC cases. The silent, energy efficient mediaputer trend works to everyone's advantage if you ask me. Not even above average powerful PCs require that much power apart from the graphics card, so in case you aren't going for hardcore gaming with 4 power-hungry cards even a measly 350W might be enough. Doesn't hurt to have a bit higher, of course.
    +1. Some of the HTPC cases are even good (but like everything, a lot of them are awful).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breambutt View Post
    The wattage link is a load of horse crap. The PM300 meter used is legendary for being a horrid piece of f- ... you know. I own one among a couple of other similar gadgets. Well, it works on linear loads such as light bulbs and toasters, but you can get completely random readings with ATX power supplies without proper power factor correction. And by random I mean half of the actual value or twice the actual value.

    See this for fun if you own a cheap generic wattage meter (they're not all bad): http://www.hiit.fi/files/admin/publi...-tr-2009-1.pdf

    But anyway, there's an abundance of compact cases suitable for your purposes even if they're labeled as HTPC cases. The silent, energy efficient mediaputer trend works to everyone's advantage if you ask me. Not even above average powerful PCs require that much power apart from the graphics card, so in case you aren't going for hardcore gaming with 4 power-hungry cards even a measly 350W might be enough. Doesn't hurt to have a bit higher, of course.

    Some 9xxx NVIDIA card (or even 8-series) might work worders, given they have the necessary outputs. The new ones have been known to perform even worse, but they have support for the latest fancy schmancies.

    I think I should stop rambling uncontrollably now. Coffee time.
    Hehe, right you are, about the coffee time.
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