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    Unhappy Can't Access Startup Menu (RESOLVED)

    Hello, I just fresh-install upgraded from Jaunty Jackalope to Lucid Lynx, on my dual-boot netbook. Now, the startup menu does appear when I boot up, but only for a fraction of a second! Default bootup is of course, Ubuntu, but since the menu flashes by so fast, there's no way I can access the other choices, including Windoze Expee.

    So I installed Startup Manager, and set the timeout to 10 seconds. (And to "show text during boot".) Still, the startup menu flashed by, no delay at all, not even a second! Tried setting timeout to 100 seconds, and once more, this did not help. (Examining grub.cfg shows the timeout was changed to my specs...I just viewed the file.)

    I searched for bootup problems in ubuntu forums, but did not find any problem similar to mine. My situation seems to be that I simply can't get the startup menu to delay, so I might access it.

    How do I manage to correct this? TIA.
    Last edited by pewterbot9; May 23rd, 2010 at 02:12 AM. Reason: problem solved
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    Re: Can't Access Startup Menu

    If you follow these instructions and post the content of the results file, it will show more:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...01&postcount=4
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    Re: Can't Access Startup Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by darkod View Post
    If you follow these instructions and post the content of the results file, it will show more:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...01&postcount=4
    Here it is, for your delectation, thanks:

    --begin RESULTS.txt:

    Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

    => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in
    partition #5 for /boot/grub.
    => Syslinux is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb

    sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: vfat
    Boot sector type: Windows XP: Fat32
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files/dirs: /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM

    sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows XP
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System: Windows XP
    Boot files/dirs: /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM

    sda3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: vfat
    Boot sector type: Windows XP: Fat32
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files/dirs:

    sda4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: Extended Partition
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:

    sda5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: ext4
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    Operating System: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
    Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img

    sda6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: swap
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:

    sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

    File system: vfat
    Boot sector type: Fat32
    Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb1 starts
    at sector 0. But according to the info from fdisk,
    sdb1 starts at sector 63.
    Operating System:
    Boot files/dirs:

    =========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

    Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

    Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

    Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

    /dev/sda1 63 8,193,149 8,193,087 12 Compaq diagnostics
    /dev/sda2 * 8,193,150 90,124,649 81,931,500 7 HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda3 90,124,650 270,855,899 180,731,250 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    /dev/sda4 270,855,961 312,576,704 41,720,744 5 Extended
    /dev/sda5 270,855,963 311,468,219 40,612,257 83 Linux
    /dev/sda6 311,468,283 312,576,704 1,108,422 82 Linux swap / Solaris


    Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

    Disk /dev/sdb: 8166 MB, 8166309888 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 992 cylinders, total 15949824 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

    Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

    /dev/sdb1 63 15,936,479 15,936,417 b W95 FAT32


    blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

    Device UUID TYPE LABEL

    /dev/sda1 00C6-B478 vfat WINRE
    /dev/sda2 F21CC8FE1CC8BEBB ntfs OS_Install
    /dev/sda3 1D05-213F vfat FAT32
    /dev/sda4: PTTYPE="dos"
    /dev/sda5 a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999 ext4
    /dev/sda6 a7cc1653-3c3f-489d-9ab4-f27190a4da22 swap
    /dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"
    /dev/sdb1 F1E7-28C1 vfat 8G class 6
    /dev/sdb: PTTYPE="dos"

    ============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

    Device Mount_Point Type Options

    /dev/sda5 / ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
    /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
    /dev/sdb1 /media/8G class 6 vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000, shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)


    ================================ sda2/boot.ini: ================================

    [boot loader]
    timeout=30
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Home Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

    =========================== sda5/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================

    #
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    #
    # It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    #

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
    load_env
    fi
    set default="0"
    if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
    set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
    save_env saved_entry
    set prev_saved_entry=
    save_env prev_saved_entry
    set boot_once=true
    fi

    function savedefault {
    if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then
    saved_entry=${chosen}
    save_env saved_entry
    fi
    }

    function recordfail {
    set recordfail=1
    if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
    }
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
    set gfxmode=640x480
    insmod gfxterm
    insmod vbe
    if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else
    # For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't
    # understand terminal_output
    terminal gfxterm
    fi
    fi
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale
    set lang=en
    insmod gettext
    if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
    set timeout=-1
    else
    set timeout=25
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    set menu_color_normal=white/black
    set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
    ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    recordfail
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999 ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic
    }
    menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    recordfail
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-22-generic ...'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999 ro single
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin
    }
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
    insmod ext2
    set root='(hd0,5)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a9b4dd38-1c9c-46e8-b531-d009a1555999
    linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    menuentry "Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda1)" {
    insmod fat
    set root='(hd0,1)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 00c6-b478
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    }
    menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda2)" {
    insmod ntfs
    set root='(hd0,2)'
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f21cc8fe1cc8bebb
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

    =============================== sda5/etc/fstab: ===============================

    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
    # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
    # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
    #
    # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
    /dev/sda5 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
    # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
    UUID=a7cc1653-3c3f-489d-9ab4-f27190a4da22 none swap sw 0 0
    UUID=F21CC8FE1CC8BEBB /media/sda2 ntfs-3g users 0 0

    =================== sda5: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


    149.6GB: boot/grub/core.img
    150.6GB: boot/grub/grub.cfg
    150.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic
    150.6GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic
    150.7GB: initrd.img
    150.6GB: vmlinuz

    --end RESULTS.txt
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    Re: Can't Access Startup Menu

    It all looks good. Sorry, I have no idea why it wouldn't show you the menu properly.
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    Re: Can't Access Startup Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by darkod View Post
    It all looks good. Sorry, I have no idea why it wouldn't show you the menu properly.
    Well thanks for giving it your best shot. And that's what I posted originally: my problem isn't the same as other bootup issues I've found in these forums.

    Once I use Startup Manager to make Windoze Expee the default, I will lose my access to Linux. But then I can find a Windoze-based dual-boot utility, to resolve this problem.

    Perhaps someone else will chime in, with an answer to this problem. Strangely, I've never had a Linux problem resolved through this board, or any other. So I'm kinda used to it.
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    Re: Can't Access Startup Menu

    Hey darkod, you'll be glad to know I resolved my bootup problem by using a 3rd-party bootmanager:

    GAG, the Graphical Boot Manager
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/gag/

    Works like a charm, very user friendly. I highly recommend this application for anyone else, should Ubuntu's GRUB fail them.
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