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    Question Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    10.04 is a long term support (LTS) release.

    Except for the Ubuntu netbook remix (UNR).

    Any idea why the UNR is excluded from LTS?

    I will be upgrading all our computers to Ubuntu 10.04 or Xubuntu 10.04.

    But what about the netbook? Should I...

    • Upgrade the netbook to 10.04 UNR, and again when we get the next UNR LTS?
    • Or should I change it to 10.04 Ubuntu? (But that won't take advantage of the chipset, will it?)
    • Or wait until the next UNR LTS? (Which version would it be? How do I find out?)

    It's a pain that the LTS applies to only selected remixes of the release.
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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Is there really a difference between the NBR and a regular ubuntu with the nbr interface installed? Since that is in the repo's of ubuntu, I dont see how the NBR would effectively at least, not be a LTS.

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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    It's still usable
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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by P4man View Post
    Is there really a difference between the NBR and a regular ubuntu with the nbr interface installed?
    Yes, according to the Canonical UNR page:
    All of the initial Ubuntu Netbook remixes combine optimisations from the Moblin project for Intel® Atom™ processors and it is specially designed for netbooks.
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    Optimised for netbook components - built from the ground up to take advantage of speed and power capabilities of the chip set
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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Landau View Post
    Yes, according to the Canonical UNR page:
    Its outdated. The intel low power architecture (LPIA) has been abandoned. Netbooks run the standard i386 or AMD64 builds now. There is no LPIA buld anymore.

    its in the release notes somehere, but here as well:
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canon...4-128175.shtml

    edit: from the release notes:

    LPIA architecture discontinued

    The lpia architecture present in previous releases has been discontinued as of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. The hardware is still supported, but systems that were installed as lpia will need to be backed up and reinstalled from scratch using either the i386 or amd64 architectures. See bug 523295, which includes an unsupported method for migration from lpia to i386.
    Last edited by P4man; May 2nd, 2010 at 07:55 PM.

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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Landau View Post
    10.04 is a long term support (LTS) release.

    Except for the Ubuntu netbook remix (UNR).
    What is your source for this information?

    Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook are the same except for the "launcher" interface. I do not see how one could be LTS and not the other. They share the same kernel, libraries, applications, etc.

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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by P4man View Post
    Its outdated...
    Oh, interesting! Thanks for the links.

    Does that mean it would it make sense to install Ubuntu 10.04 and then add the UNR interface? Hmm, perhaps not, as the UNR for 10.04 would be supported for only 18 months.

    Hmm. I still don't know which way to go!
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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
    What is your source for this information?
    I first read it in the newsletter dated 29 April. See it in the Fridge:
    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS will be supported for three years on desktops and five years on servers. Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition will be supported for 18 months.
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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Landau View Post
    I first read it in the newsletter dated 29 April. See it in the Fridge:
    Thanks for the link. This thread is the first I'd heard of it. Strange decision by Canonical.

    I am guessing it is only the netbook-specific components (the launcher etc.) that are not LTS. (And it won't suddenly stop working after 18 months, it just means no new updates.) The kernel, applications, etc. must be supported 3 years since they are the same as the desktop edition.

    What do I know though, I try new distros like crazy--I've never stuck with anything for longer than 6 months, let alone 3 years.

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    Re: Why is 10.04 UNR not LTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
    Thanks for the link. This thread is the first I'd heard of it. Strange decision by Canonical.

    I am guessing it is only the netbook-specific components (the launcher etc.) that are not LTS. (And it won't suddenly stop working after 18 months, it just means no new updates.) The kernel, applications, etc. must be supported 3 years since they are the same as the desktop edition.

    Im not LTS specialist, but arent they supporting everything in the repo's for 3 years? the NBR interface is in the default repo's, so how could they stop supporting it?

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