"We visited sixty-six islands and landed eighty-one times, wading, swimming (to shore). Most of the people were friendly and delightful; only two arrows shot at us, and only one went near -- So much for savages!" - J.C. Patterson
Y'know, it's kinda like a seesaw (teeter-totter). You put the fulcrum wherever it works for whoever is using it.
My biggest complaint with Ubuntu is its claim to be "beginner friendly" while still including Beta software - turning Linux newbies into laboratory rats without their knowledge and consent. I think beginners need stability more than the latest stuff (so move the fulcrum to favor stability for those users). After they've gained some experience and are ready (and willing) to take some risk and explore, let them do it with eyes open and informed choice.
I guess you could throw that accusation at Windows for allowing people to install Windows 7 being that it has so many problems, it must still be considered beta, right?
LOL, no, that's not quite what I'm saying. I'm just say'n that it's scary enough for newbies to try out a whole 'nother OS without including unproven software that gives even experienced Linux users fits when it doesn't play nice on their 'puter. The stuff is great when it works! But I think it's a mistake to put it in a distro aimed at newbies until it is proven, patched, or at least has a work-around that newbies can handle, that's all.
Ubuntu 8.04 is extremely stable now but that took about 6 months. I would not expect Lucid to do any better than 8.04 so if you want a stable Ubuntu you need to wait a few months on the LTS releases and maybe skip the ones in between. I had a really bad time with Intrepid, Jaunty was better and Karmic so-so. I still use Hardy as my main install and all those others will go bye bye when I move to lucid in about 6 months.
Ooooo....I just got updated to the new lucid wallpaper on my other machine, very nice.
PMs will be ignored.
as a n00b not too long ago, I found Karmic relatively n00b friendly. My issues were: X crashes, pulseaudio causing crashes, printer driver hard to find. I did my research coming in and knew there may be problems putting Linux on a computer built for Windows. I sucked it up and worked through them and it's now running like a well oiled machine. Not even considering upgrading to Lucid as yet, they have nothing that I see to attract me to it.
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I am testing Lucid on my Netbook and it looks and runs great. I plan to upgrade all of my machines to it when it goes to Beta testing. I have nothing against Debian, but I would never recommend Deb to a newcomer. Ubuntu does mostly everything for the new person.