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    opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    I've already got linux set up in this computer but I only have 3 partitions the boot which also seems to have all my personal settings etc, the swap, and one labeled extended.

    The main boot was 140 of the 155 available. I'm in the process of shrinking it to about 37 with about 29 in use. I imagine that most of that is what I want to make /home.

    So here it is...

    37+ for sda1 boot/ hardy heron os ext3
    30 sda? set aside for the next LTS version of linux
    what format should I use?
    4 for swap 2x my RAM
    4 for sda2 extended... currently is the same size as my swap
    what does it do?
    80 or the approximate remainder set aside for /home
    What file system should I use for best results with hardy and the next LTS version?

    Thanks
    Mike

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    There is a limit of four primary partitions on one disk. This is overcome by having extended partitions, which act as containers for a (potentially large) number of logical partitions. In short, you use extended partitions to increase the number of actual partitions you can have on a disk.

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jken146 View Post
    There is a limit of four primary partitions on one disk. This is overcome by having extended partitions, which act as containers for a (potentially large) number of logical partitions. In short, you use extended partitions to increase the number of actual partitions you can have on a disk.
    So are you saying that my swap section is actually contained within an extended partition? So it isn't, at the moment,2 5.8gb sections but 1 that is labeled twice in the list?

    Let me know if I have that wrong.

    So a few questions that I'm getting at with this thread...

    Is 30gb the right size to set aside for lucid lynx? Is it too small? Will I be able to get away with less without performance issues?

    Can I make my hardy boot partition smaller after I move all my /home stuff into the new/home partition? If so what is a good size?

    What file system should I use for my /home file if I want lucid and hardy to work flawlessly from it?

    Is there an idiots guide somewhere on how, and what, to move the appropriate files into my /home partition?

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
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    Is 30gb the right size to set aside for lucid lynx? Is it too small? Will I be able to get away with less without performance issues?
    Since my /home and data are on separate partitions I make my / (root) partiton around 15 GB - you could get by on less 7 - 10 GB

    Can I make my hardy boot partition smaller after I move all my /home stuff into the new/home partition? If so what is a good size?
    Hardy, Jaunty, Lucid - makes no difference all use about the same amount of space.
    What file system should I use for my /home file if I want lucid and hardy to work flawlessly from it?
    Have to go with ext3 - Hardy does not support ext4. - Due to different versions of some programs such as Firefox - not a good idea to have both use the same /home partition. Unless you use a different user for each.
    Is there an idiots guide somewhere on how, and what, to move the appropriate files into my /home partition?
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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
    So are you saying that my swap section is actually contained within an extended partition? So it isn't, at the moment,2 5.8gb sections but 1 that is labeled twice in the list?
    Yes.

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by louieb
    Have to go with ext3 - Hardy does not support ext4. - Due to different versions of some programs such as Firefox - not a good idea to have both use the same /home partition. Unless you use a different user for each.
    Thanks louie,

    I appreciate the answers... I have some questions about the one above...

    What is the advantage to ext4 over ext3?

    Doesn't making a different user for each OS defeat the purpose of sharing the /home partition?

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Also should the partition for lucid lynx also be ext3 or should I just leave that unallocated right now?

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
    What is the advantage to ext4 over ext3?
    Not very much.


    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
    Doesn't making a different user for each OS defeat the purpose of sharing the /home partition?
    Not entirely. You can re-format the / (root) partition without touching your users' files, and you can expand/move /home as needs be in future without having to touch root.


    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
    Also should the partition for lucid lynx also be ext3 or should I just leave that unallocated right now?
    You can put that off until you install it. It makes no difference really.

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    thanks jken
    Last edited by hortstu; February 12th, 2010 at 11:43 PM.

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    Re: opinions/help on/with this newbs (me) partition plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hortstu View Post
    ..What is the advantage to ext4 over ext3?
    like jken146 - I've not found much difference. ext4 is reported to be faster - I can't tell the difference, also its suggested its more prone to errors - I have not had a problem with ext4 yet.
    Doesn't making a different user for each OS defeat the purpose of sharing the /home partition?
    I don't share my /home partition - have Jaunty and Lucid Alpha on the laptop. Both have a small 3GB /home partition. Anything I want to have access to from both I keep in a separate partition - music , documents -stuff like that - the data partition takes up most of the space on the laptop.

    BTW: Lucid looks pretty nice - its the fastest Ubuntu yet. Still has a lot of bugs to be worked out. If you decide to try the Alpha be sure to Google "Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring" - lol - its just a nicer way to reboot - that is nicer than pressing the power button.
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