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    Question ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I understand this topic pops up all the time, so my apologies in advance for throwing on yet another one. But this is REALLY bugging me.

    Here's the story: I'm going through the motions of acquiring the Ubuntu program on a Windows XP system...

    -I downloaded and installed Infrarecorder.
    -I downloaded Ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso. No problems.
    -I downloaded and installed WinMD5.
    -I checked the MD5 hash. All clear.
    -I put a rewritable 700MB CD in my rewritable optical drive (insert tech support joke here). Again, no problems.
    -I opened Infrarecorder, hit Burn Image, selected the Ubuntu ISO file, and hit OK.

    BUT, no matter what configuration I try, I keep getting the same message: "Operation failed." I've done several simulated burns and one actual (unsuccessful) burn, and restarted my computer several times in the process to get the optical drive working again; I slowed the burn speed down to 1x (only to watch as it burned in 4x anyway); I tried SAO ("some files didn't like closing"), TAO (which didn't work at all) and raw-write method.

    At this point I can only imagine the following possibilities:
    1) It absolutely must be a "write once" CD-R and not a CD-RW
    2) Infrarec isn't working properly
    3) Windows XP is messing up the process, or
    4) The computer just hates me.

    If anyone has any insight, it is much appreciated. I'm more than ready to do away with Windows. (If you're going to recommend a different program than Infrarecorder, please explain why that program will do better.)

    Many thanks,

    Derek M. Barnes
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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I've used InfraRecorder in both XP and Vista and I found it to be a reliable application - it was happy with rewritable discs too. So...

    Quote Originally Posted by derekmbarnes View Post
    At this point I can only imagine the following possibilities:
    1) It absolutely must be a "write once" CD-R and not a CD-RW
    2) Infrarec isn't working properly
    3) Windows XP is messing up the process, or
    4) The computer just hates me.
    ... I wouldn't think so, but I can suggest a fifth possibility: perhaps the optical drive is failing.

    I have another suggestion, but this will only work if your machine can boot up from a USB device. If it can, have a look here:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick

    Take note of the comment about 9.10 under 'Known issues'. All you need is a 1GB usb stick and you should be OK.
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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I also have used Infrarecorder previously without issue, but if you want to try another good free program, try CDBurnerXP.

    If it still doesn't work, it would point to the disk or the burner as being the problem.

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I've read many times on the Ubuntu forums that you should use CD-R, not RW.

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
    I've read many times on the Ubuntu forums that you should use CD-R, not RW.
    Never believe anything you read in a forum. I've been using CD-RWs for a couple of years now for installing Ubuntu and trying out other distros. No problems.
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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
    I've read many times on the Ubuntu forums that you should use CD-R, not RW.
    Credible examples ?

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I have never had any failures at all burning CD-R (or DVD+R) in any OS at 16x on my desktop or 12x on my laptop. But my first experiences with CD-RW have been frustrating.

    I first tried Brasero in Ubuntu which worked fine for CD-R, but failed my first attempts at CW-RW (blanking between attempts). So I tried k3b and that worked the first time. But then when I tried to do another, it ran endlessly for a couple of hours, probably trashing the disk. And I could not cancel or kill k3b by any means (even kill -9), except by shutdown.

    CD-RW apparently can be temperamental, has to burn at the proper speed (too fast does not clear data, or too slow can do a meltdown), but maybe my room temperature is too cool or my DVD/CD drive from 2004 is getting dusty.

    But last time I bought CD-R they were 20 cents each, or if you want to go green you can to a live/install iso on bootable USB. I even did bootable iso on 2 GB microSD (in SD adapter in USB card reader). However, cheaper USB sticks can be slow (avoid SanDisk Cruzer w/U3), or may not last.

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    I would definitely suspect the drive is failing. It might fail less with a CD-R (as mentioned, CD-RWs are quite sensitive).

    Have you been able to burn anything else on this drive? Even an audio CD?

    Also, what are the specs of the machine you are burning on? I regularly had burn failures on my last-laptop-but-one - the processor just couldn't handle it.

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecat View Post
    Never believe anything you read in a forum.
    Including that ^

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    Re: ISO won't burn; what's wrong?

    Thanks for all the help thus far. You guys work fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretCode View Post
    I would definitely suspect the drive is failing. It might fail less with a CD-R (as mentioned, CD-RWs are quite sensitive).

    Have you been able to burn anything else on this drive? Even an audio CD?

    Also, what are the specs of the machine you are burning on? I regularly had burn failures on my last-laptop-but-one - the processor just couldn't handle it.
    It has been quite a while since I've used the burn drive. Considering how dusty the tray was when I opened it, I'm guessing the laser lens isn't doing any better...so yeah, it just might be the drive.

    Then again, this computer was built when Pentium 4 was new. Fortunately I just got a new laptop for Christmas, which is what I'll eventually be installing on, and its burn drive will definitely be in better shape. I'll also try booting from USB as suggested, but from the looks of it that might end up being more complicated. (Plus I'd rather have the CDs to loan to other people in the future.)

    I'll let you know how it works out...

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