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    Arrow Aurora seems to have a higher crash rate than both Nightly and Beta

    oh oh...

    Christian wanted to talk about why Aurora seems to have a higher crash rate than both Nightly and Beta. We discussed at the last meeting and expected it to come down but it has not
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    Arrow Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support - FF5 is security updade for FF4

    Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
    Christian Legnitto, the Firefox release manager, put it most succinctly in a May 25 message. "Firefox 5 will be the security update for Firefox 4," Legnitto said.
    Wow.

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    Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support - FF5 is security updade for FF4

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Yes, Firefox 5 replaces Firefox 4 completely. There won't be multiple supported versions anymore, as soon as they drop support for Firefox 3.5 and 3.6. Then, Firefox will become essentially a "rolling distribution". However, I don't think they have figured out everything yet. There is still the possibility of the release of a 4.0.2, although that is very unlikely.

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    Arrow Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support - FF5 is security updade for FF4

    Quote Originally Posted by lovinglinux View Post
    Yes, Firefox 5 replaces Firefox 4 completely. There won't be multiple supported versions anymore, as soon as they drop support for Firefox 3.5 and 3.6. Then, Firefox will become essentially a "rolling distribution". However, I don't think they have figured out everything yet. There is still the possibility of the release of a 4.0.2, although that is very unlikely.

    Good move by Mozilla.

    This whole new fast release change, has breathed a new lease of life into to Firefox development.

    I was surprised by the security support stop for ff4, but it makes a lot of sense once I gave it some thought, you concentrate your efforts on the main game instead of wasting them on yesterdays tech.

    The add-on issue is being addressed in the short-term by auto bumping all working add-ons.

    Long term Jetpack and other initiatives will sort this out.

    Well done Mozilla, Well done.

    Of course not everyone is going to be happy with this change
    Last edited by SilverWave; June 23rd, 2011 at 08:13 PM.

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    Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support - FF5 is security updade for FF4

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Good move by Mozilla.

    This whole new fast release change, has breathed a new lease of life into to Firefox development.

    I was surprised by the security support stop for ff4, but it makes a lot of sense once I gave it some thought, you concentrate your efforts on the main game instead of wasting them on yesterdays tech.

    The add-on issue is being addressed in the short-term by auto bumping all working add-ons.

    Long term Jetpack and other initiatives will sort this out.

    Well done Mozilla, Well done.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Of course not everyone is going to be happy with this change
    See this thread for example.

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    Arrow Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support - FF5 is security updade for FF4

    Quote Originally Posted by lovinglinux View Post
    Indeed.
    See this thread for example.

    Just a final thought...
    Previously we would get very few firefox updates and we received them late...
    Under the new model this is no longer the case.
    This is a big win for Linux firefox users.

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    Question Re: Install The Newest Firefox ppa with command "add-apt-repository" (9.10 & above)

    Hey what's the Firefox 5 PPA for us guys on Ubuntu 10.10?

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    Arrow Stable Firefox 5 PPA for 10.04 & 10.10

    Quote Originally Posted by graabein View Post
    Hey what's the Firefox 5 PPA for us guys on Ubuntu 10.10?
    The Stable FF5 is here:

    10.04 & 10.10:
    https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
    Code:
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
    Update & Install
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update 
    sudo apt-get install firefox
    Last edited by SilverWave; June 24th, 2011 at 07:14 PM. Reason: Added Details

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    Arrow Why do Firefox updates break add-ons?

    This is a great article full of interesting information:

    Why do Firefox updates break add-ons?

    The crux of the matter is in how deeply we allow add-ons integrate with Firefox. Most browsers separate add-ons from their code using what can be called an add-on API. All the add-on can see and use is what the browser makes available through that API and this is normally a restricted set of functionality. Firefox has no such separation. Add-on code runs in exactly the same setting as the browser code, they can call any of the internal functionality that we write to make the browser work in the first place.
    There are big advantages to the Firefox way:

    • Add-ons can do basically anything, allowing really complicated add-ons like Firebug and NoScript to exist.
    • Authors don’t have to wait for features to be exposed through some API to be able to use it, as soon as the feature is in the application add-ons can use it.

    There are also some disadvantages:

    • Add-ons can do basically anything so you should be wary about installing add-ons from people you don’t trust!
    • Because we aren’t forced to provide an API specifically for add-ons sometimes what is there can be cumbersome for add-ons to use.
    • Add-ons rely on internal functions, if we make a change to one then it breaks the add-on.

    It is that last point which explains why Firefox updates break add-ons. Any time we add, remove or change some code we run a risk that some add-on depends on it and so will break. Some bits of code are more important than others but we have such a vast library of add-ons now that it’s probably getting to the point where almost everything is in use. When people say that Firefox updates shouldn’t break add-ons what they don’t realise is that they’re asking us to stop making changes to Firefox: no new features, no bug fixes.
    And here is the fix for a lot of add-ons, at least in theory...

    How does the Add-ons SDK fit in?

    With the most recent update to Firefox we also made the first official release of the new add-ons SDK available. These are tools designed to make developing add-ons for Firefox easier and faster and they largely serve as an add-ons API sitting between the add-on and Firefox with one difference, the API is actually a part of the add-on so you can actually write your own additional APIs to supplement those in the core SDK.
    Add-ons written with the SDK (and only using the core APIs) gain a lot of the benefits of add-ons for other browsers. The APIs in the SDK can be far more stable than those in the browser itself, as the browser code changes the internal SDK code can adapt to match allowing add-ons to work just by rebuilding with the newer SDK. This makes the problem of Firefox updates much smaller for those that can move their add-ons to the SDK.
    I don’t foresee a future where the only add-ons are SDK based though. We’d lose too many really important add-ons that way so the SDK doesn’t completely solve the problem.
    Last edited by SilverWave; June 25th, 2011 at 02:55 PM. Reason: Added Details

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    Re: Why do Firefox updates break add-ons?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Also why Firefox add-ons are better than other browsers, in terms of functionality.

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