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    Arrow Re: Install The Newest Firefox ppa with command "add-apt-repository" (9.10 & above)

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisccoulson View Post
    Indeed, lovinglinux is right.

    Firstly, the beta packages are where we test packages that are eventually going to end up in the distro. Making them parallel installable introduces several problems:
    1. The packaging is totally different, so they are completely useless for testing future distro upgrades. The beta packages should be production quality packages
    2. They rely on ugly hacks to make them fully parallel installable (ie, changing the profile location)
    3. We can't distribute them with the official branding turned on (because of reason 2


    The aurora package isn't parallel installable because it makes it impossible for people to swap between channels, for the reason that lovinglinux mentioned. In addition to this, I wanted to hook the channel switcher UI in to the package manager at some point (that was, until Mozilla disabled the UI). Also, having them all parallel installable means maintaining 4 lots of packaging, which is a total headache.

    There is a genuine use-case for people wanting to test nightly builds alongside a more stable version (which is what I do), and this is why the nightly build is parallel installable.

    We're not going to change the aurora or beta package to be parallel installable.

    Also, your beta packages are out-of-date already. The latest beta fixes a critical security issue, so distributing out-of-date packages (with my name on too!) is quite irresponsible. Please fix that. People should be running the latest beta anyway, there is no point in people testing out-of-date builds.
    >Also, your beta packages are out-of-date already.

    What are you referring to I don't see a Beta 8 in the Beta Channel?

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    Re: Install The Newest Firefox ppa with command "add-apt-repository" (9.10 & above)

    Oh, you're right, sorry. I only saw when you copied beta 6 in my inbox, I didn't get another notification after that

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    Arrow Re: Is it a mistake calling Firefox Aurora and Firefox Beta Packages "firefox"?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisccoulson View Post
    Indeed, lovinglinux is right.

    Firstly, the beta packages are where we test packages that are eventually going to end up in the distro. Making them parallel installable introduces several problems:
    1. The packaging is totally different, so they are completely useless for testing future distro upgrades. The beta packages should be production quality packages
    2. They rely on ugly hacks to make them fully parallel installable (ie, changing the profile location)
    Fair enough.

    3. We can't distribute them with the official branding turned on (because of reason 2
    Hmm I get the Official "Nightly" branding with firefox-trunk are the terms different for Aurora and Beta?

    The aurora package isn't parallel installable because it makes it impossible for people to swap between channels, for the reason that lovinglinux mentioned. In addition to this, I wanted to hook the channel switcher UI in to the package manager at some point (that was, until Mozilla disabled the UI). Also, having them all parallel installable means maintaining 4 lots of packaging, which is a total headache.
    Yes I can see that, pity as I think a lot of ppl would like to use Aurora in place of Nightly.

    There is a genuine use-case for people wanting to test nightly builds alongside a more stable version (which is what I do), and this is why the nightly build is parallel installable.
    Agreed.

    We're not going to change the aurora or beta package to be parallel installable.
    Hmm I'll take that as a tentative "No" then.

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    Arrow Re: Is it a mistake calling Firefox Aurora and Firefox Beta Packages "firefox"?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovinglinux View Post
    I disagree. I think it is great that firefox-next replaces your existing firefox. This way, there is no more confusion with cloned profiles and customized launchers. It is easier for new users to adopt it.
    Hmm I can see that from a support point of view that this is better.

    Although I think side-by-side installs for aurora would encourage a lot more users to become Aurora Channel testers.

    Which would be a "Good Thing".
    Last edited by SilverWave; June 18th, 2011 at 05:06 PM. Reason: Added Details

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    Re: Is it a mistake calling Firefox Aurora and Firefox Beta Packages "firefox"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Fair enough.

    Hmm I get the Official "Nightly" branding with firefox-trunk are the terms different for Aurora and Beta?
    The official branding is the Firefox name and logo

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    Re: Is it a mistake calling Firefox Aurora and Firefox Beta Packages "firefox"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWave View Post
    Hmm I can see that from a support point of view that this is better.

    Although I think side-by-side installs for aurora would encourage a lot more users to become Aurora Channel testers.

    Which would be a "Good Thing".
    I haven't thought about that. My main concern is the support, after all I need to regularly test more versions than those provided by aurora and nightly. So I don't use the repositories for testing anyway.

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    Arrow Firefox 5.0

    5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1

    Changes for the versions:

    Code:
    Changes for the versions:
    5.0~b7+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1~mfn1
    5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1
    
    Version 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1: 
    
      * New upstream release from the stable channel (FIREFOX_5_0_BUILD1)
        - see LP: #798484 for USN information
    
      * Update globalmenu-extension to 1.0.6
      * Switch to mozilla-beta
        - update debian/mozclient/firefox.conf
      * Drop the ability to build with an external xulrunner, and all the packaging
        complexity which went with it
        - update debian/apport/firefox.in
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
        - update debian/firefox.lintian-overrides.in
        - update debian/firefox.sh.in
        - update debian/mozconfig.in
        - update debian/rules
      * Build language packs directly from the firefox source
        + Fixes LP: #294187 - Firefox Locales should install locale specific
          search plugins 
        + Rip out the bits to create a en-US.xpi
          - update debian/rules
          - remove debian/translation-support/install.rdf.in
        + Include compare-locales FIREFOX_5_0b1_BUILD1 from
          http://hg.mozilla.org/build/compare-locales. It's needed for merging
          en-US strings with incomplete locales
        + Pull l10n data in to tarball from bzr
          - update debian/mozclient/firefox.conf
        + Configure build for creating language packs by configuring with
          "--with-l10n-base="
          - update debian/mozconfig.in
        + Store the list of locales to ship, and provide a way of automatically
          generating that list and the control file entries from the upstream
          source. Also provide a way to blacklist languages. We map languages
          to package names using langpack-o-matic (and also get descriptions
          from there too)
          - update debian/rules
          - add debian/locales-supported
          - add debian/control.langpacks
          - update debian/control
          - add debian/locale-blacklist
          - add debian/refresh-supported-locales.pl
        + Add common-build-indep hook to build the translation xpi's
          - update debian/rules
        + Add common-binary-post-install-indep to install the xpi's and
          searchplugins in to the correct debian packages
          - update debian/rules
          - add debian/get-xpi-id.py
        + When rebuilding debian/control in the clean target, fail the build
          if the control file was out-of-date. This ensures that we don't
          accidentally drop language packs, and forces me to maintain an
          up-to-date control file in bzr
          - update debian/rules
        + Apply vendor patches to localized searchplugins too
          - update debian/patches/ubuntu-codes-amazon.patch
          - add debian/patches/ubuntu-codes-baidu.patch
          - update debian/patches/ubuntu-codes-google.patch
      * Ditch all the version-number based branding selection. Do this all
        purely on the channel name now
        - remove debian/firefox-beta.desktop.in
        - remove debian/firefox-nightly.desktop.in
        - remove debian/firefox-unofficial.desktop.in
        - rename debian/firefox-final.desktop.in => debian/firefox.desktop.in
        - update debian/firefox.desktop.in
        - update debian/rules
        - update debian/firefox.sh.in
      * Drop the DEB_ENABLE_IPC option, now that IPC is mandatory
        - update debian/rules
        - update debian/apport/firefox.in
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
        - update debian/mozconfig.in
      * Add some missing options to the manpage
        - update debian/firefox.1.in
      * Ensure we set LD_LIBRARY_PATH before running "firefox -h"
        - update debian/firefox.sh.in
      * Drop patches merged upstream:
        - 64-bit-be-fix.patch
      * Refresh patches:
        - mozilla-kde.patch
      * Ship channel-prefs.js. We used to ship this in Firefox 3.6, and it's
        required by Test Pilot now
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
      * Backport patch from mozilla-central to fix powerpc build failure
        - add debian/patches/powerpc-build-fix.patch
        - update debian/patches/series
      * Support storing language descriptions in locales.unavailable. This
        will be useful for translations which disappear temporarily
        - update debian/rules
        - update debian/refresh-supported-locales.pl
      * Add languages that are currently dropped in FF5 (compared with FF4) to
        locales.unavailable. Having transitional packages now will make
        transitioning easier later on if they come back
        - update debian/locales.unavailable
      * Refresh debian/control to pick up transitional packages
      * Don't bundle our vendor preferences in the omni.jar. This needs a distro
        patch and it turns out that Firefox does still read prefs from
        $LIBDIR/defaults/pref, so just install it there instead
        - update debian/rules
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
        - remove debian/patches/install-vendor-prefs.patch
        - update debian/patches/series
      * Add a global pref file again (/etc/firefox/syspref.js) and add the
        necessary preinst/postinst magic to move the old file there if it
        was previously customized
        - add debian/syspref.js
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
        - update debian/firefox.links.in
        - update debian/firefox.postinst.in
        - update debian/firefox.preinst.in
      * Ensure "Depends: ${misc:Depends}" is added to all transitional
        language packs
        - update debian/control.langpacks.unavail
        - refresh debian/control
      * Ship testpilot on aurora too
        - update debian/firefox.install.in
      * Set the right Vcs-Bzr URL
        - update debian/control.in
        - refresh debian/control
      * Update list of language packs to include new ones added upstream
        - refresh debian/locales.shipped and debian/locals.unavailable
        - refresh debian/control
    apt-cache policy firefox
    Code:
    sil@irop:~$ apt-cache policy firefox
    firefox:
      Installed: 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1
      Candidate: 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1
      Version table:
     *** 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 0
            500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main amd64 Packages
            500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security/main amd64 Packages
            100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
         5.0~b7+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1~mfn1 0
            500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/silverwave/testing4/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages
         4.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0
            500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages
    sil@irop:~$
    Last edited by SilverWave; June 22nd, 2011 at 07:11 PM. Reason: Added Details

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    Arrow Firefox 5 Benchmarked – Faster And Better Than Ever Before!- Less Memory Than Chrome

    Interesting

    Firefox 5 Benchmarked – Faster And Better Than Ever Before!

    - Uses Less Memory Than Chrome

    Last edited by SilverWave; June 22nd, 2011 at 06:32 PM.

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    Arrow Re: One Nightly A Week/Month PPA's Updated with Latest firefox-trunk 7.0~a1

    Changes for the versions:
    7.0~a1~hg20110619r71298+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty

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    Arrow Asa to write a channels blog post about running different channels side-by-side

    Last edited by SilverWave; June 22nd, 2011 at 08:14 PM. Reason: Added Details

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