Delay the touchpad tap while typing

**orengolan** · December 7th, 2009

laptop: Dell Inspiron 11z with xubuntu 9.10
My touchpad works, but I try to delay or disable the touchpad tap while I type.
when I type: syndaemon -t
I see

Code:

'unable to find a synaptics device'.

when I type gsynaptics
I see:

Code:

GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics

touchfreeze application is not working as well.

I had no entry for touchpad in xorg and someone told me to add 2 sections there and to add this line: Option "SHMConfig" "true".
I did it but it didn't help.
I read here that adding /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi with some xml stuff will help but it didn't do anything.
Here is the shmconfig.dfi:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="input.x11_driver" string="synaptics">
      <merge key="input.x11_options.SHMConfig" type="string">on</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

Here is my xorg.conf (the last 2 sections are the ones I added):

Code:

Section "Device"
        Identifier "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Default Screen"
        Monitor "Configured Monitor"
        Device "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
        Driver "synaptics"
        Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
        Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
        Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
        Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
        Option "SHMConfig" "true"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier "Layout0"
        InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" "Core Pointer"
        Screen "Default Screen"
EndSection

Is my xorg.conf ok?

I also see this issue mentioned on launchpad-
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...cs/+bug/132627

**QuanTime** · December 7th, 2009

ubuntu 9.10 x64
Same problem.. I have a Asus K70IC series mantop (mantop is a 17" or bigger laptop.. anyways..)

Code:

quantime@allenkey:~$ tpconfig
Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux].

Code:

quantime@allenkey:~$ syndaemon 
Unable to find a synaptics device.

Code:

Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Default Screen"
    DefaultDepth    24
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load    "glx"
    Load    "synaptics"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Default Device"
    Driver    "nvidia"
    Option    "NoLogo"    "True"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Configured Mouse"
    #Driver         "mouse"
    #Option         "CorePointer"
    #Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    #Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    #Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    #Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "false"

    Driver      "synaptics"
   Option       "CorePointer"
   Option       "Device"        "/dev/psaux"
   Option       "Protocol"      "auto-dev"
   Option       "LeftEdge"      "1700"
   Option       "RightEdge"     "5300"
   Option       "TopEdge"       "1700"
   Option       "BottomEdge"    "4200"
   Option       "FingerLow"     "25"
   Option       "FingerHigh"    "30"
   Option       "MaxTapTime"    "180"
   Option       "MaxTapMove"    "220"
   Option       "VertScrollDelta" "100"
   Option       "MinSpeed"      "0.06"
   Option       "MaxSpeed"      "0.12"
   Option       "AccelFactor" "0.0010"
   Option       "SHMConfig"     "on"
EndSection

Code:

quantime@allenkey:~$ xinput list
"Virtual core pointer"    id=0    [XPointer]
    Num_buttons is 32
    Num_axes is 2
    Mode is Relative
    Motion_buffer is 256
    Axis 0 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 0
    Axis 1 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 0
"Virtual core keyboard"    id=1    [XKeyboard]
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Power Button"    id=2    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Sleep Button"    id=3    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Asus Laptop extra buttons"    id=4    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Video Bus"    id=5    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Power Button"    id=6    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse"    id=7    [XExtensionPointer]
    Type is MOUSE
    Num_buttons is 7
    Num_axes is 2
    Mode is Relative
    Motion_buffer is 256
    Axis 0 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 1
    Axis 1 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 1
"AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"    id=8    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"CNF7129"    id=9    [XExtensionKeyboard]
    Type is KEYBOARD
    Num_keys is 248
    Min_keycode is 8
    Max_keycode is 255
"Macintosh mouse button emulation"    id=10    [XExtensionPointer]
    Type is MOUSE
    Num_buttons is 5
    Num_axes is 2
    Mode is Relative
    Motion_buffer is 256
    Axis 0 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 1
    Axis 1 :
        Min_value is -1
        Max_value is -1
        Resolution is 1

Thats as far as i can get now.. Whats your outputs like ? Maybe i need to change my input device to reflect what xinput is reporting ?

**orengolan** · December 7th, 2009

xinput list

Code:

"Virtual core pointer"	id=0	[XPointer]
	Num_buttons is 32
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 0
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 0
"Virtual core keyboard"	id=1	[XKeyboard]
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse"	id=2	[XExtensionPointer]
	Type is MOUSE
	Num_buttons is 7
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
"Dell WMI hotkeys"	id=3	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"	id=4	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Integrated Webcam"	id=5	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Power Button"	id=6	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Video Bus"	id=7	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Power Button"	id=8	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Type is KEYBOARD
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Macintosh mouse button emulation"	id=9	[XExtensionPointer]
	Type is MOUSE
	Num_buttons is 5
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
"Dynex Wired Optical Mouse"	id=10	[XExtensionPointer]
	Type is MOUSE
	Num_buttons is 13
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1

**QuanTime** · December 7th, 2009

i see your device at ID 9 is the same as my ID 10 device.
Maybe this is the clue ? Not sure about it being 5 button though.

-----
EDIT
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lshal > list.txt
These are the only things relating to mouse inputs. I read somewhere it should be identified as a synaptic device.. Ideas or fixes ?

Code:

udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX3_port_logicaldev_input'
  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse'} (string list)
  info.category = 'input'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX3_port'  (string)
  info.product = 'ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX3_port_logicaldev_input'  (string)
  input.device = '/dev/input/event9'  (string)
  input.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX3_port'  (string)
  input.product = 'ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'evdev'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event9'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input9/event9'  (string)

udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input_3'
  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse'} (string list)
  info.category = 'input'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer'  (string)
  info.product = 'Macintosh mouse button emulation'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input_3'  (string)
  input.device = '/dev/input/event4'  (string)
  input.product = 'Macintosh mouse button emulation'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'evdev'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event4'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/virtual/input/input4/event4'  (string)

**QuanTime** · December 12th, 2009

bump for help. i still cant solve this. I use gnome ubuntu.. but it seems its relevant to kbuntu too.

**wilee-nilee** · December 12th, 2009

touchfreeze in synaptic will delay the touchpad and a little more.

**QuanTime** · December 12th, 2009

when you say that, how do you mean touchfreeze ? i DONT have synaptic registering my touchpad.. Far as i can guess, its ps2 mouse.
In System -> Preferences -> Touchpad.

When i click it, i get

GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics

Ive enabled SHMConfig and tried all sorts of solutions, but my touchpad just wont recognise for some reason.. It works, but i cant alter anything..

Ideas ?

**wilee-nilee** · December 12th, 2009

touchfreeze is a program in synaptic go system-administration-synaptic package manager.

**Zorael** · December 12th, 2009

Is it a real Synaptics pad, then? If not, chances are the synaptics driver won't work for you - and as you listed it's recognized as a normal PS/2 mouse.

It's technically possible to modify the synaptics driver to make it accept a different pad as a "real" Synaptics pad (as patsissions did in this thread), but there's *no* guarantee it will work. Much like you can't really use ATI drivers with an Nvidia card.

I'm not sure if ALPS pads work with the Synaptics driver, but at least Sentelic pads need drivers of their own.

If yours is indeed a Synaptics pad and it's just not being recognized as one, the driver will have to be updated to include its device ID. That's a legitimate bug and should be filed against the driver package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (or directly upstream).

**QuanTime** · December 14th, 2009

Its fairly obvious now that its NOT a synaptics device.. Any way to identify what it is and get some use out of it ? its starting to drive me b@tsh!t crazy...

Code:

quantime@allenkey:~$ touchfreeze 
SynDaemon::SynDaemon 

set daemon true 
set pad true 
using typing delay of 500 ms 
"/usr/bin/synclient" 
initial state is TouchpadOff= 0 
Segmentation fault
quantime@allenkey:~$

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