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    Question Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows XP

    All right, here's the problem and I hope someone out there can help me:

    I originally ran Windows XP natively on my laptop. I then decided to install Ubuntu 9.04 in a dual boot environment. I have been using Ubuntu 9.04 for a while now and when 9.10 was released yesterday, selected the upgrade version option in Ubuntu 9.04 and it went about downloading around 900 mb worth of files. When it was about to install, I made sure there were no running applications and let it sit. It installed maybe 10% and then gave me an error and said it would now try and go back on it's changes, however the OS might be in an unusable state. Everything closed automatically then. I tried to load Firefox and had no luck.

    Taking a deep breath, I restarted my system and found that Windows XP was still loading from Grub so my computer was not entirely useless at this point.

    I then thought it might be an idea to download the .iso disc image of Ubuntu 9.10 and try installing from there, by booting up through it and doing a fresh install OVER the existing Ubuntu 9.04 partition (Ext3). I was going to format that existing partition to Ext4 and simply install Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04. Unfortunately when the partitioner loaded, I had 2 choices. To install Ubuntu 9.10 by taking space from my Windows XP partition and this leaving me now with 3 operating systems, Windows XP, Ubuntu 9.04 and Ubuntu 9.10 OR manually editing the partitions.

    I tried to do that then, loaded up the advanced editor and figured I pre-set the options to format and change the format of the Ubuntu partition from Ext3 to Ext4 and made sure no other changes were to be made, thus keeping the same SWAP partition from Ubuntu 9.04 as well. On clicking forward, it said something about no root partition being selected. I thought then I best come to the forum to see if I can get any help here.

    What I want to basically end up with is my MS Windows XP installation in dual boot with Ubuntu 9.10. I do not want to have Ubuntu 9.04 as well. I want to install Ubuntu 9.10 on the partition where Ubuntu 9.04 is and also format it to the relatively new Ext4 format.

    It should be easy enough to do, I've tried to solve this myself and am looking for some advice on how I should go about it.

    Thanks for the long read lol, I just thought it might help to be thorough.

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    I do not share the same problems as the OP, but I am interested in this thread because I want to do a fresh install in order to obtain the new GRUB as well as the ext4 filing. I have Vista rather than XP, but I am also currently running Jaunty. I am looking to do exactly what the OP is requesting.

    EDIT: I have not tried the installation yet as the .iso is still downloading. I am just looking to head off any potential snags before I commit to the CD upgrade. I am prepared to lose all of my Jaunty settings in the process; this is irrelevant to me.
    Last edited by space-litter; October 30th, 2009 at 10:07 AM.

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    Thumbs down Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    Well let's hope someone has an answer soon...I'm sitting here in an Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD environment lol!

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    ceru, if someone gives you an answer (or link to one) please copy/paste it to this thread as i will then receive an email with your reply. I do not wish to spam the boards with a question I am certain they are being hammered with.

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    Smile Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    sure thing space-litter...evidently there are quite a few people interested in the answer to this particular problem so I'm glad I'm not the only one! patiently waiting though for a reply

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    Addendum:

    I read this from the following link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...FromOldVersion

    However I am not 100% certain whether this will retain the dual boot into Windows option or not. Anyone know about this?
    Clean Install Upgrade (not recommended)

    If your /home directory is contained on a separate hard-disk partition you should be able to upgrade by performing a clean install of the current release of Ubuntu and 'adopting' the old /home directory.
    Back-up any important data before following this procedure as data loss is possible, and very well may be likely.

    1. Obtain an installation CD for the release of Ubuntu you wish to install, and boot from it.
    2. Start the installation process. When you reach the Prepare disk space stage of installation, choose the Manual option and press Forward.
    3. Identify your current '/' (root) partition. Select '/' as the mount point and ensure that Format is ticked. You will lose all data on this partition and the new version of Ubuntu will be installed there instead.
    4. Identify your swap partition and set its mount point as 'swap'.
    5. Identify your /home partition. Set its mount point as '/home' and make sure that Format is not ticked.
    6. Continue installation as normal until you reach the Who are you? stage, enter a username and password which exactly match your current username and password.
    7. Complete the installation as normal.

    Once the installation has completed, you should be able to log in to Ubuntu and your /home partition with all of your documents and settings should be intact.

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    Hi Guys,

    I think I might know what went wrong with the partitioning attempt that ceruleanchalice made:

    On clicking forward, it said something about no root partition being selected.
    When you selected the 9.04 root partition (the one where the OS files are installed) you must set a "mount point". This mount point will somehow define what will be the partition's function. E.g.:

    "/" would be the root partition
    "/home" would be the home partition
    "swap" would be the swap partition
    And so on.

    If you retry installing Karmic (9.10) see if this was your problem.

    But please bare in mind that I'm no expert. Your best chances are to first read something about manual partitioning first and then try it.

    Hope it helped
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    Cool Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    Thanks Mariano, will give that a shot. If it works, will post so here. If not, will still post so. The screw up I foresee is me losing Windows from the GRUB list when the new one loads, but I believe there are plenty ways to rectify that so keeping my fingers crossed and giving this a shot!

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    Partyboi2 gave me this advice when I wanted to do a fresh install of 9.04 over 8.04 in dual boot, that worked for me, so I assume it will work in this scenario.
    Re: install over ubuntu
    Hi, if you are wanting to install 9.04 and format your 8.04 install when you are at the manually partitioning screen choose "/dev/sda5" and select "edit partition" then set the mount point to / and select the option to use the partition as ext3 , then tick the box next to format (make sure you have backed up all your important data as this will wipe the partition clean) then proceed with the install.
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299691
    Last edited by owenll; October 30th, 2009 at 12:17 PM.

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    Re: Fresh Install of Ubuntu 9.10 over Ubuntu 9.04 maintaining dual boot with Windows

    If you chose to follow Mariano Oliveto's advice you will be making 3 partitions to take the place of 9.04...
    1. /=root
    2. /home (separate partition)
    3. swap (probably inside an extended partition)
    Good, sound advice if you want a separate /home.
    Depending on how many previous PRIMARY partitions are already on your drive you may bump into the 4 PRIMARY partition limit. If you fall into this category you have a few choices...
    1. Just set / as root in the dialog box. This will install everything (except swap) on that partition (root, home, etc).
    2. Manually make an EXTENDED partition (using the Partition Editor on the livecd) in the space previously used by 9.04 to hold your new 9.10 install. This will add LOGICAL partitions inside of it.
    3. Add another drive/drives (costs money unless you have one laying around).

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