9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

[diddy1234]

Just performed a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10 then ran upgrades.
I then downgraded upstart to the previous version.
I then installed apache2 ssh and samba and configured them.

Now when i restart the server, the above installed and configured services do not start.

just wtf is going on?
surely there is a fundamental problem here.
I have never had collosal failiures like this before with ubuntu.

As a work around I can manually start the services each time I reboot the server and once up and running everything runs fine and is stable.
Oh well back to 9.04 I go !

[superyounan1]

I agree with Mr. Diddy, this is ridiculous. Karmic has been a big headache for me, and this is certainly one of the reasons.

[superyounan1]

I too downgraded upstart and things are working exactly as I would like again.

I see in Synpatic you can freeze a package version, and you can tell aptitude to do so too, but apt-get seems to ignore all that.

There are pages that explain 'pinning' packages in apt-get, but this seems a little screwy.

I found on this thread a mention of a utility called "wajig":
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238706

Install wajig with:
apt-get install wajig

Then exclude the package with:
wajig hold <package>

Good Luck

I tried it out, and the results seem good, apt-get refrains from wanting to upgrade upstart:

The following packages have been kept back:
  upstart
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

not sure how wajig did it, i'm assuming it pinned the package...

[ElHeineken]

A bug report has been created about this issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...rt/+bug/500520

[superyounan1]

A bug report has been created about this issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...rt/+bug/500520

fantastic, thanks

[jwvraets]

Thanks for the info. One puzzle is that on 2 virtually identical PCs sshd works (i.e.starts from boot) for one but not the other and I can see no differences. Most days I just love PCs - just not today.

[j23tom]

Check if you have loopback interface in:
/etc/network/interfaces

there should be (at file top):
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

After I've added this, my services were back

[Eksilius]

Add me to the list of unfortunate ones. At least CUPS and vboxdrv fail to start at boot. The loopback thing wasn't it in my case. Considering to downgrade but I'm worried about possible dependency issues. Has anybody encountered such?

[ugutugut]

Solution: downgrade Upstart 0.6.3-11 to 0.6.3-10. Apache and Postgresql work normally now.

How? Using the Synaptic Package Manager search for upstart. Select it and then under Package click on Force Version. You get to choose between 0.6.3-11 and 0.6.3-10. Choose 10 and click on apply.

it's that easy. But it took me hours of googleing to find the solution. Very frustrating.

- Jon

Thanks Jon, your solution works for me.
It also fix my problem on Virtualbox, ie missing VBoxdrv and need to recompile every reboot.

[msabath]

Check if you have loopback interface in:
/etc/network/interfaces

there should be (at file top):
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

After I've added this, my services were back

Hello to all.
I had the same problem with my services. After editing /etc/network/interfaces all the services work fine.