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Thread: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit sloppy?

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    Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit sloppy?

    I was just thinking about this, I mean like I have found Ubuntu at present VERY easy-to-use and friendly, but isn't it a bit much to expect your average user to add a new repository, and often then a key for authentication, just to search for and install a less common new program?

    Surely a better system can be devised - I mean in Windows programs just update independently of others, which has it's pros and cons but at least it means software installations are nice and simple!

    It will probably improve as Ubuntu as a distro matures and evolves... what do you think?

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    Lightbulb Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    Adding a new repository is not necessary. You can download and double click to install debs from many repositories without adding them, or use sources such as GetDeb.

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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    Quote Originally Posted by blueturtl View Post
    Adding a new repository is not necessary. You can download and double click to install debs from many repositories without adding them, or use sources such as GetDeb.
    Yes but will they then update themselves? Many programs seem to greatly recommend you add the repository!
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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    Developers can add a repository and a key using a deb file. Opera already does this.

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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it "sloppy."

    The "windows method" of surfing the web and downloading random, untrusted applications works in Ubuntu, too. Or, you can use trusted, signed and keyed repositories. The choice is yours...

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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu

    so now with 23meg's posting we have 3 Links who provide information on repositories.

    How many does an "average user" need? ah yes I forgot: www.google,com and http://www.google.com/support/websea...&answer=134479

    oh dear... sometimes I can't help myself and think that anybody thinks that "average users" must be stupid like 10 metres of dirt road.

    Why is it so difficult to search for information regarding a specific topic?

    conclusion: no, the way like it is now, is the best.

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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    2meg links point to ways Ubuntu is considering adding external repos easier, answering your topic title. It is a sign that Ubuntu is aware of this issue and is trying to fix it. If you want to help how it go about doing this, go there and participate.

    On principle though, adding PPA is not "easy", *nor is it meant to be* because it's meant to be something that understand what they're doing when doing it. No matter how you twist it, external repos are less "trustworthy" can official ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoppipolla View Post
    Yes but will they then update themselves? Many programs seem to greatly recommend you add the repository!
    Well no, you'd have to use repositories for that.

    To counter your idea, built-in updaters are a bad idea because of redundancy. It leads to the same kind of nightmarish bloat that we have on Windows today: the average user's desktop is clogged with little auto-updater applets going off.

    So far the best means to accomplish software updates has been to simply allow the operating system's core utilities to take care of the process. Adding a repository really isn't that difficult a task on a modern Linux desktop.

    Can you further elaborate why you think repositories are difficult for new users?

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    Re: Is this system of adding repositories for unusual software installations abit slo

    Can you further elaborate why you think repositories are difficult for new users?
    [sarcasm]

    because the user has to think about what he/she is doing and also has to think about how to do something.
    And (to make it far worse) he/she has maybe to search for additional information

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