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    Wink Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    What do you prefer?
    What does mac have, that ubuntu doesn't?
    What does ubuntu have, that mac doesn't?
    Opinions?

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    Re: Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    Ubuntu has a lot of things that Mac doesn't.

    1. A great user community where you get an answers very fast
    2. Literally thousands of great free open-source programs
    3. The ability to customize your computer exactly how you want it, try to customizing the login in screen on a mac for instance, in ubuntu you can do this with a simple command

    Honestly Ubuntu kind of changed my life, it took me from an average computer users to a power user. I know do web development, and use my computer for a variety of tasks I never would have. Honestly ubuntu will change the way you think about software and computers if you have never used a linux os b4 that is...Anyway give it a try b4 you shell out thousands for an overpriced macbook.

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    Re: Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    Quote Originally Posted by mdgrech View Post
    Ubuntu has a lot of things that Mac doesn't.

    1. A great user community where you get an answers very fast
    2. Literally thousands of great free open-source programs
    3. The ability to customize your computer exactly how you want it, try to customizing the login in screen on a mac for instance, in ubuntu you can do this with a simple command

    Honestly Ubuntu kind of changed my life, it took me from an average computer users to a power user. I know do web development, and use my computer for a variety of tasks I never would have. Honestly ubuntu will change the way you think about software and computers if you have never used a linux os b4 that is...Anyway give it a try b4 you shell out thousands for an overpriced macbook.
    Yea, agreed.
    Thanks for the answer

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    Re: Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    I don't have a Mac, but I've used them, and I think I can address this fairly well.

    When it comes to security, Ubuntu and Mac are pretty much dead even. Both Linux and OS X are Unix-based operating systems, and have nearly identical security models. Users of both system can feel safe from viruses and other malware.

    In terms of price, Ubuntu wins hands down. Apple software tends to be rather expensive, while Linux and the overwhelming majority of software it uses is absolutely free of charge.

    In terms of usability, it's a toss-up. One area in which Apple is quite successful is the user interface. That's why so many mp3 players tend to copy the iPod to some extent. OS X is no exception, and has a very nice interface. On the other hand, arguments could be made for the usability of Gnome, KDE, and Xfce as well, especially considering the amazing degree to which these desktop environments can be customized.

    Which brings us to customization. Ubuntu has the edge here. The options for customization of Linux are staggering, with multiple desktop environments and window managers from which to choose, which themselves are highly customizable. OS X can be themed and customized, but not even close to the degree of Linux.

    When it comes to software, it's a mixed bag. Mac is more commercially supported than Linux. For most tasks, this doesn't matter as an abundance of FOSS alternatives exist for most commercial applications. And for most purposes, this gives Ubuntu the edge, since the software is just as free as the operating system. If specific applications are a priority, however -- most notably iTunes -- then Mac has the advantage. There's no clear winner here, as it really depends on what software you feel you need.

    Of course the mention of iTunes brings us to the issue of freedom. Apple is even more notorious than Microsoft when it comes to vendor lock. Everything Apple produces is proprietary and made to work best (or only) with other Apple products. iPods, for example, are practically useless without iTunes, because the iPod uses a proprietary transfer protocol. Since Apple won't release the details of this protocol, no other software developers can develop iPod management software without essentially reverse-engineering the protocol -- which Apple periodically alters. On one hand, this gives OS X an edge against Linux for people who use other Apple products. On the other, it's extremely annoying and limiting. If you don't like companies manipulating you and dictating how you use their product, then Linux clearly has the edge. While I'm tempted to say this is another tie, I can't in good conscience say that vendor lock is in any way an advantage, except to the vendor. Free and open-source wins.

    Because Linux is open-source, anyone can do anything to it, and can see exactly what's going on under the hood. This is part of the reason Linux is a safe computing environment (and arguably slightly more secure than OS X) -- viruses are hard to sneak onto a system when people can see the source code. No restrictions or license agreements restrict your use of your own system. However, because it's not a commercial product backed by a corporate entity, the means of technical support is radically different. For some people, the lack of obligatory customer support is a failing of Linux. Others like not having to rely on a single entity to provide technical support, and prefer the support provided by the Linux community. As a matter of personal preference, tech support is another toss-up.

    So... which operating system is better? Well, "better" is a relative term, in more ways than one. In my own case, I'm perfectly happy without iTunes or any other Apple products, so there's no compelling reason for me to use OS X in order to use those other products. I also prefer a free product over an expensive one of equivalent quality, and prefer freedom over the lack thereof. So for me, personally, I say without any hesitation or reservation that Ubuntu is the better operating system. But this may not be true for someone else who loves using iTunes to shop the iTunes store for videos to transfer to his iPhone. For that person, who apparently has a much greater disposable income than myself, Mac OS X is the better choice.

    It just depends on your priorities.

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    Re: Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    I use OS X on both my laptop (which is not a mac), and my Mini (which is), so that says something right there.

    On the other hand, all of the critical systems i manage and new servers i setup run Ubuntu for a reason. I've hosted on OS X before and it isn't likely to happen again any time soon, perhaps ever. I don't trust it, I've seen it fail catastrophically, and i've had to clean up the mess.

    Right tool for the job applies here, there are significant advantages OS X has on the desktop, commercial support for both hardware and software (hackintosh excluded of course, but 3rd party stuff yea), very high quality frameworks for development of applications, very good display system (quartz is way ahead of X11 at this point and has been for 9 years now), nice development environment (Xcode, best i've used so far), nicely integrated control panels for various things.

    I find that i don't actually have to mess with OS X much if at all to get it the way i want it, which is a big plus. I'm never quite happy with Gnome or KDE desktops (even though i'm perfectly fine in Windows).
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    Re: Mac users: is ubuntu better than mac OS

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedday View Post
    What do you prefer?
    Very much prefer OS X

    What does mac have, that ubuntu doesn't?
    Hundreds of commercial applications that run flawlessly, Photoshop, Aperture, Lightroom, Final Cut, iWork, etc... - and they all have great UI's, great features, are commercially supported, and are very speedy. With Linux I'm lucky if I can either get those programs to work, or even get a native app to work as well.

    Hundreds of independent applications that run flawlessly, I must be running at least 80 free/nominally priced apps that are all up to scratch with the commercial apps, in a lot of cases they are much better. Linux does have a decent application community, but the difference is that Linux apps are not yet at the stage where it's not a chore to get them to run properly.

    UI polish. No weird, out of place buttons, the menus are very simple, the font rendering is near perfect, everything just feels well cooked.

    A booming independent app market. Using a Mac, I can easily write a simple app, put a little bit more work into it to make it great, and make a bunch of money selling it for a few dollars a pop. Virtually no one buys apps on Linux.

    Vendor support. My Macbook Pro broke down two months ago, couldn't read DVD+/-RWs. I took it to the Apple store and got it fixed the next day - I was offered a lender laptop to use while it was being repaired. This also carries over to the software - during the period while I was switching to OS X and didn't quite get a few things I stopped by the Apple store several times to ask how certain things worked. I even got independent third party app recommendations! I have never had such a good experience with any PC vendor.

    What does ubuntu have, that mac doesn't?
    Learning opportunity. Through managing my own Linux installs as well as my parents, I have learned countless computing principals that will carry over to any OS. While you have an equal opportunity to learn various programming languages and scripting languages on OS X, you don't have the opportunity to play around with existing apps and learn through tinkering.

    Opinions?
    I far prefer OS X. Everything just works better than it does on Windows or Linux. There are situations where I would use Linux, a web server, a media server, a headless media box or something, but in most usage situations I'll use OS X.

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