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    Sansa Fuse video projects?

    Hi I have a Sansa Fuse and am having a very hard time getting video to the player... It uses a windows program called Sansa Media converter and it appears this is the only way to properly convert the video so the PMP will recognize it that I have found... I tried the Sansa support forums, but the vast majority of anybody I have talked with there are windows users.. (and apperently they are having lots of problems with this as well)

    I was just wondering if there were any current linux/ubuntu projects maybe going on to perhaps address this issue since Sansa is advertising this as fully linux compatible.... I can get music to go with drag and drop no problem at all...

    But the video is just not happening for me at this time... I tried to ask on their forum about codecs and other settings etc for possibly using handbrake to convert the video but nobody there really seems to know about it..... I know when I was a windows user and had a Zune I had to use 3rd party software to convert video for Zune... I was just wondering if anybody knew of a linux package that would do the same for the Fuse?

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    I found this posted in a forum that is supposed to be the video output of the default video that comes with the player.


    http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=27460

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    Here's a command for FFmpeg that loosely following the specs linked above. Does this work? Assuming you're using intrpeid:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k -ar 44100 -vcodec mpeg4 -b 512k -s 224x176 output.avi
    or:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k -ar 44100 -vcodec libxvid -b 512k -s 224x176 output.avi
    You will need the libavcodec-unstripped-51 package to enable restricted encoders in FFmpeg (Intrepid only).
    Last edited by FakeOutdoorsman; March 10th, 2009 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeOutdoorsman View Post
    Here's a command for FFmpeg that loosely following the specs linked above. Does this work? Assuming you're using intrpeid:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k -ar 44100 -vcodec mpeg4 -b 512k -s 224x176 output.avi
    or:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k -ar 44100 -vcodec libxvid -b 512k -s 224x176 output.avi
    You will need the libavcodec-unstripped-51 package to enable restricted encoders in FFmpeg (Intrepid only).
    hi,

    I bought this mp3 player a couple of weeks ago and everything works fine except the video

    I enjoyed to find your solution but... no success

    The additional difficulty for me is that I have not Windows and that Sansa Media Converter does not work with wine, so I'm unable to analyse what the file is, converted by this proprietary software. And I'm not really an expert with ffmpeg

    Did anybody else ear about a (working) solution ?

    I'll try again next week

    Vincent

    P.S. my apologies for my poor English

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    Quote Originally Posted by vgay View Post
    hi,

    I bought this mp3 player a couple of weeks ago and everything works fine except the video

    I enjoyed to find your solution but... no success

    The additional difficulty for me is that I have not Windows and that Sansa Media Converter does not work with wine, so I'm unable to analyse what the file is, converted by this proprietary software. And I'm not really an expert with ffmpeg

    Did anybody else ear about a (working) solution ?

    I'll try again next week

    Vincent

    P.S. my apologies for my poor English
    Your English is not poor. Do you have a video that does work on this player? We can use it to determine a working format. If you do have a working video you can use mediainfo to get the file statistics. I can then attempt to provide a FFmpeg command. Example mediainfo command:
    Code:
    mediainfo test.mp4

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    Quote Originally Posted by FakeOutdoorsman View Post
    Do you have a video that does work on this player? We can use it to determine a working format. If you do have a working video you can use mediainfo to get the file statistics. I can then attempt to provide a FFmpeg command.
    Many thanks for your help

    I've installed XP with virtualbox, then used the proprietary program supplied by Sanza. This program produced a avi film (working fine on the Sansa Fuze) and a jpeg picture with .thm extension.

    What does not appear with mediainfo, but indicated on sansa site, is that the format of video must be "mpeg-4 simple profile". I don't exactly know what it means, excepted what I found on Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_2 )

    Simple Profile is mostly aimed for use in situations where low bit rate and low resolution are mandated by other conditions of the applications, like network bandwidth, device size etc. Examples are cell phones, some low end video conferencing systems, surveillance systems etc.
    --- mediainfo result for mediainfo -f 15619157.avi ---

    General
    Count : 257
    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : General
    Kind of stream : General
    Stream identifier : 0
    Count of video streams : 1
    Count of audio streams : 1
    Video_Format_List : MPEG-4 Visual
    Video_Format_WithHint_List : MPEG-4 Visual (DivX 5)
    Codecs Video : DivX 5
    Audio_Format_List : MPEG Audio
    Audio_Format_WithHint_List : MPEG Audio (MP3)
    Audio codecs : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
    Complete name : /media/SANSA FUZE/VIDEO/15619157.avi
    Folder name : /media/SANSA FUZE/VIDEO
    File name : 15619157
    File extension : avi
    Format : AVI
    Format : AVI
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    Format/Extensions usually used : avi
    Interleaved : Yes
    Codec : AVI
    Codec : AVI
    Codec/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    Codec/Extensions usually used : avi
    File size : 44671778
    File size : 42.6 MiB
    File size : 43 MiB
    File size : 43 MiB
    File size : 42.6 MiB
    File size : 42.60 MiB
    Duration : 438050
    Duration : 7mn 18s
    Duration : 7mn 18s 50ms
    Duration : 7mn 18s
    Duration : 00:07:18.050
    Overall bit rate : 815829
    Overall bit rate : 816 Kbps
    Stream size : 544722
    Stream size : 532 KiB (1%)
    Stream size : 532 KiB
    Stream size : 532 KiB
    Stream size : 532 KiB
    Stream size : 532.0 KiB
    Stream size : 532 KiB (1%)
    Proportion of this stream : 0.01219
    Writing application : InterVideo

    Video
    Count : 144
    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : Video
    Kind of stream : Video
    Stream identifier : 0
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format settings : BVOP
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : 0
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID : DX50
    Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
    Codec ID/Url : http://mediaarea.net/DX50
    Codec : DX50
    Codec : DivX 5
    Codec/Family : MPEG-4V
    Codec/Url : http://www.divx.com
    Codec/CC : DX50
    Codec settings : BVOP
    Codec settings, Packet bitstream : No
    Codec settings, BVOP : Yes
    Codec settings, QPel : No
    Codec settings, GMC : 0
    Codec settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Codec settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Duration : 438050
    Duration : 7mn 18s
    Duration : 7mn 18s 50ms
    Duration : 7mn 18s
    Duration : 00:07:18.050
    Bit rate : 677905
    Bit rate : 678 Kbps
    Width : 224
    Width : 224 pixels
    Height : 176
    Height : 176 pixels
    Pixel aspect ratio : 1.000
    Display aspect ratio : 1.273
    Display aspect ratio : 1.273
    Frame rate : 20.000
    Frame rate : 20.000 fps
    Frame count : 8761
    Resolution : 24
    Resolution : 24 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan type : Progressive
    Interlacement : PPF
    Interlacement : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.860
    Delay : 0
    Stream size : 37119553
    Stream size : 35.4 MiB (83%)
    Stream size : 35 MiB
    Stream size : 35 MiB
    Stream size : 35.4 MiB
    Stream size : 35.40 MiB
    Stream size : 35.4 MiB (83%)
    Proportion of this stream : 0.83094

    Audio
    Count : 122
    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : Audio
    Kind of stream : Audio
    Stream identifier : 0
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 3
    Format settings : Dual mono
    Codec ID : 55
    Codec ID/Hint : MP3
    Codec ID/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
    Codec : MPA1L3
    Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
    Codec/CC : 55
    Codec profile : Dual mono
    Duration : 437969
    Duration : 7mn 17s
    Duration : 7mn 17s 969ms
    Duration : 7mn 17s
    Duration : 00:07:17.969
    Bit rate mode : CBR
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128000
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 44100
    Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
    SamplingCount : 19314433
    Resolution : 16
    Resolution : 16 bits
    Delay : 0
    Video delay : 0
    Video0 delay : 0
    Stream size : 7007503
    Stream size : 6.68 MiB (16%)
    Stream size : 7 MiB
    Stream size : 6.7 MiB
    Stream size : 6.68 MiB
    Stream size : 6.683 MiB
    Stream size : 6.68 MiB (16%)
    Proportion of this stream : 0.15687
    Alignment : Split
    Alignment : Split accross interleaves
    Interleave, duration : 2.00
    Interleave, duration : 100
    Interleave, duration : 100 ms (2.00 video frames)

    --- end of mediainfo result ---

    --- mediainfo result for mediainfo -f 15619157.thm ---

    General
    Count : 257
    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : General
    Kind of stream : General
    Stream identifier : 0
    Count of image streams : 1
    Image_Format_List : JPEG
    Image_Format_WithHint_List : JPEG
    Codecs Image : JPEG
    Complete name : /media/SANSA FUZE/VIDEO/15619157.thm
    Folder name : /media/SANSA FUZE/VIDEO
    File name : 15619157
    File extension : thm
    Format : JPEG
    Format : JPEG
    Format/Extensions usually used : jpeg jpg jpe
    Codec : JPEG
    Codec : JPEG
    Codec/Extensions usually used : jpeg jpg jpe
    File size : 10176
    File size : 9.94 KiB
    File size : 10 KiB
    File size : 9.9 KiB
    File size : 9.94 KiB
    File size : 9.938 KiB

    Image
    Count : 50
    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : Image
    Kind of stream : Image
    Stream identifier : 0
    Format : JPEG
    Codec : JPEG
    Codec : JPEG
    Width : 224
    Width : 224 pixels
    Height : 176
    Height : 176 pixels
    Resolution : 24
    Resolution : 24 bits

    --- end of mediainfo result ---

    I've put the files on a ftp, you can download them at http://habasnegras.free.fr/Fuze/

    Many thanks again

    Vincent
    Last edited by vgay; May 30th, 2009 at 12:32 PM. Reason: complement of information

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    Try these. This command uses libxvid as the encoder:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i input.avi -acodec libmp3lame -ar 44100 -ab 128k -ac 2 -vcodec libxvid -vtag DX50 -r 20 -b 512k -s 224x176 sansalibxvid.avi
    This one uses FFmpeg's native MPEG-4 part 2 encoder:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i input.avi -acodec libmp3lame -ar 44100 -ab 128k -ac 2 -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag DX50 -r 20 -b 512k -s 224x176 sansalibxvid.avi
    You may have to use the -aspect 4:3 or -aspect 16:9 options depending on the aspect ratio of your input video.

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    These related threads brought me to the video4fuze solution which allows video to be converted for Sansa Fuze on ubuntu

    http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=286477
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827693&page=4
    http://code.google.com/p/video4fuze/

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    Re: Sansa Fuse video projects?

    I have several Sansa Fuse players, which I generally use with Linux. I can put videos onto it directly from Linux.

    Here are my instructions:

    Ubuntuguide.org:
    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#Sansa_Fuze

    Kubuntuguide.org:
    http://kubuntuguide.org/Maverick#Sansa_Fuze

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