Boycott iRiver... The T30 is a 100 Euro paperweight.

[felixdzerzhinsky]

Whatever you do don't by an iRiver T30. In fact until iRiver changes its attitude do not buy iRiver products. At least until they make UMS versions for Mac and Linux users in the EU and the US. See this link for details. Consider writing a freindly letter telling them you are boycotting their paper weights (thats what they are without UMS firmware). The T30 does not work with ifp-line although the hard working developers are busy with the problem. It has been designed ony to work with ******* Media Player 10. The only reason I bought an iRiver was I was under the mistaken opinion that the company was Linux friendly after reading an article in Tux magazine. Tell your Mac using friends as well.

http://www.misticriver.net/showthrea...&highlight=t30

The iRiver European Customer Service email adress is:
support@iriver.at

Tell them to provide UMS firmware or we won't buy their products. Time for these hardware companies to stop taking Linux and Mac people for granted.

[varunus]

What is this UMS firmware? I couldn't really understand it from the linked thread either...is it a different way of USB communications that linux supports (and it doesn't support the new one)?

[felixdzerzhinsky]

UMS & MTP are different protocols for communicating over USB. With UMS firmware your player is like a USB stick. Works with Linux and Mac. MTP is designed to work only with ******* Media Player 10 for digital rights management reasons. ifp-line is a program designed to enable you to use MTP firmware. Unfortunately still not working with the T30 yet.

Please Linux/Mac users write to the company. When they get enough complaints they may take notice.

At the very least don't buy any of their products until they start providing UMS firmware.

[Brunellus]

terrible. I have an iRiver H340, and I love it, and I was disposed to buy another iRiver product to replace it, eventually.

No longer.

I'll be looking for something else in the market.

[erikpiper]

I used to use iriver- still have an Imp-550 CD player. Their quality isn't the best- Use Iaudio. IAudio even says their X5- (And others) Will work with macs/Linux, and their engineering rivals mac! (Surpasses, in my opinion)

http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/

[xequence]

One of their 1 GB flash players says on it windows XP only...

[JimmyJazz]

wasn't there a set of standard set for USB communication back when it was concieved? Why would a company not go by those standards? Oh right, money.

[Mr. Electric Wizard]

They don't call it M$ for nuthin'

[erikpiper]

Huh? Well- most Iaudio are drag/drop compatable (Linux!)

[Mr. Electric Wizard]

I am just about sold on the IAudio products for this reason, but I believe in order to transfer files to/from an IAudio device you must use their proprietary USB base thingy.
I would be in 100% if all you needed to move files is a standard USB cable.