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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    You pretty much can outright sell distros of Linux (even without support). It's just very hard to make this very profitable because most distros are free already. And yes you'd have to release the source code of any GPL things you modified or software that links to GPL code.
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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by yabbadabbadont View Post
    Correct, but then the end users can redistribute that code as long as it is licensed under the GPL. The company only has to make it available to customers, but they can't prevent the customers from sharing the GPL'd parts.

    <insert obligatory IANAL>
    Section 3b says you need to provide a written offer for source code good for 3 years to any third party. Although, admittedly, the issue of whether or not you need to provide code to just anyone or only legitimate customers is a bit of a grey area. I think RMS would insist that you need to give it to anyone who asks, because someone could legally acquire the binaries without necessarily being your customer (e.g., you buy something second-hand that has Linux on it). I don't think it's been tested in court, so it's kind of up to your own interpretation at this point.

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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by lykwydchykyn View Post
    Section 3b says you need to provide a written offer for source code good for 3 years to any third party. Although, admittedly, the issue of whether or not you need to provide code to just anyone or only legitimate customers is a bit of a grey area.
    refering to GPL v3 :
    Conveying Non-Source Forms.

    You may convey a covered work in object code (i.e. compiled, binary)form provided that you also convey the machine-readable Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, in one of these ways:
    a) ...
    b) ...
    c)
    d)
    make publically available for download is only one of the possible ways to satisfy this requirement, and not an obligation. Giving your customer (and noone else) a cd with source code when he purchases your binaries, is just as valid.

    Quote Originally Posted by lykwydchykyn View Post
    ... because someone could legally acquire the binaries without necessarily being your customer (e.g., you buy something second-hand that has Linux on it).
    I don't think so.
    If you acquire the binaries, you are entitled to the source, but the obligation to provide the source lies with the person you acquired the binaries from.

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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by |{urse View Post
    It is legal because i said so. I told them they could and they were like, "Thanks!".

    /me nods approvingly

    edit: Or maybe it was because they are selling their support not the code.

    I love the secret message....cool
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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    The following is found in the product description:
    This boxed set includes a Ubuntu CD, Quick Start Guide, and 60 days of professional support from Ubuntu
    The $20 USD here is probably going to the 2 months of support.
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    Re: how is it legal for novell to sell linux?

    There are people in the world who aren't as tech savvy as the people on this forum. They may not know anything about Live CD's and other stuff like that and this may be the only way they can try out Linux and Ubuntu.

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