I would like to thank the members (Kilz, rsambuca, and afonic) running the 64 bit version for raising your issues.
Needless to say I strongly disagree with much of what you are saying, but I am not going to debate the issue further.
SD-Plissken has provided very helpful information and I would again thank him for his efforts. I would encourage members of the Beginner Team to read through the link in order to understand the benefits, differences, and disadvantages of 32 vs. 64 versions.
I think SD-Plissken also made the best statement regarding any potential "policy".
I am sorry you feel that FUD has been spread regarding the 64 bit, but as has been pointed out, most of this thread is nothing more then opinions anyways.
Is the 32 bit version problem free ? no.
Is the 64 bit version problem free ? no.
Are there advantages to running 64 bit ? yes.
Are there advantages to running 32 bit (on a 64 bit arch)? yes.
If you can not see the advantages and disadvantages then I would question your ability to offer the best advice to new users, which is the implicit goal of the Beginner team.
To me the "bottom line" in terms of a policy are :
1. Users are free to run their systems as they choose. We (the beginners team) do not set any policy such as users MUST run the 64 bit version any more then we have a policy that they MUST run the 32 bit version. The 64 bit users have no right to demand that everyone with a 64 bit processor MUST run the 64 version of Ubuntu or that the beginner team can not advise someone to run the 32 bit version. We also do not say you must run Dapper or Edgy or Feisty or Gutsy. We help new users transition to Ubuntu and if you look
here it should be clear that I expect
no flame wars in this subsection.
2. The beginners team will offer as much assistance as we can, including referring to the 64 bit subsection. It would obviously be helpful if members from the 64 bit community were willing to volunteer with the Beginner Team, otherwise whose fault is it that 64 bit users are under-represented (on the beginner team)?
3. It follows from #1 and #2, the beginners team members are free to advise what they feel is best for the situation, including the suggestion to run 32 bit.
4. If there are members with 64 bit experience that would be willing to assist with the beginners team they would be welcome to do so. HOWEVER, as should be obvious, I do have a different standard of behavior for the Beginning team members and would hold you to those standards. Terms like "FUD" or "lies" are inflammatory and do not help new users. I would expect more respectful language when posting as a member of the beginner team.
In conclusion, this thread is in the Beginners Team sub forums. I do not want or welcome flame wars here. As such I expect you (64 bit users) to use a more respectful tone and avoid inflammatory posts. We, the beginners team, is willing to work with you, but your language, as has been pointed out several times, could stand some improvement.
I find terms like "FUD" and "lies" to be inappropriate and inflammatory to the subject hand. This type of language does not build trust or a working relationship between us, nor does it assist new users better learn to run 64 bit. If you insist on using such language on the Beginner sub forum, or if I see you treating my team members in such a way on the 64 bit forum, I will hand out infractions.
I am leaving this thread open at the moment, but I will close it we can not seem to get back on topic, which would be:
1. How can the beginner team help new 64 bit users.
2. How can the 64 bit users help the beginner team with #1.
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