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    Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    I would assume they are trying this in other places as well. Here in the states they have a few places doing this. Burger King has the Impossible Whopper, Carls Jr / Hardees has the Beyond burger. This basically is a hamburger patty made out of plant protein. Not an ounce of actual beef or meat involved.

    I tried a Beyond BBQ Cheeseburger this morning. And I was in shock. I worried I wasted my money on some kind of gimmick or joke. It turned out great. If I didn't know I ordered it, I would never have asked twice. It made me think beef producers have got a real problem if these people ever figure how to make a proper steak out of this stuff.

    Have you tried it yet?

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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    40 years ago I would have said "If you want a hamburger that tastes like beef, eat a beef one. If you want a veggie burger that tastes like beef -- waahhhh!"

    In these days of accelerating anthropogenic climate change I say "If it cuts down on factory production of cattle, helps cut greenhouse gas emissions and really does taste like beef ... I'll take two."
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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    I was eating them before they were adopted widely by the fast food market. They don't taste as good as my home made burgers on the grill, but they don't have the side effects of eating meats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uRock View Post
    I was eating them before they were adopted widely by the fast food market. They don't taste as good as my home made burgers on the grill, but they don't have the side effects of eating meats.
    +1 yep your Burgers are the best in town. You need to fire up the barby one last time, as always I'll bring the beverage's.
    That Burger King version isn't bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1fallen View Post
    +1 yep your Burgers are the best in town. You need to fire up the barby one last time, as always I'll bring the beverage's.
    That Burger King version isn't bad at all.
    I've been tempted to make real burgers.

    We only eat meats once or twice a month. Usually when going out on date nights or family nights. I haven't cooked a real beef burger for more than a year and I have been craving one.

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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    Deer, elk, antelope, got a freezer full. But got to say Burger King Impossible Whopper is one fine burger.

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    Burger King Impossible Whopper is one fine burger
    Good to know, I have been thinking about trying it, I have been eating a lot healthier and want to keep it that way.

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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    A little worried for public health if these things aren't the complete set of proteins that normal meat provides. E.g. protein deficiency disorders or male endocrine disruption similar to phytoestrogen heavy diets. I'm also not convinced that if these are a complete set of proteins on par in quantity with meat that they're able to be sustainably farmed. More protein heavy crops tend to annihilate the top soil in a way that they can only be replenished by compost which - has to come from somewhere.

    The carbon economics of this stuff is messy and sadly not as direct as we'd like to think.
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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimbuf View Post
    A little worried for public health if these things aren't the complete set of proteins that normal meat provides. E.g. protein deficiency disorders or male endocrine disruption similar to phytoestrogen heavy diets. I'm also not convinced that if these are a complete set of proteins on par in quantity with meat that they're able to be sustainably farmed. More protein heavy crops tend to annihilate the top soil in a way that they can only be replenished by compost which - has to come from somewhere.

    The carbon economics of this stuff is messy and sadly not as direct as we'd like to think.
    I've eaten less than twenty meat based meals in the past 18 months. These burgers are overly processed, so I still don't eat them very often. I'd only be worried if people were eating these for every meal.

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    Re: Plant based "Meats". Your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by uRock View Post
    I'd only be worried if people were eating these for every meal.
    Well, that's what I was really concerned about. Since from nutritional labels, it's nigh impossible to tell if anything is all 9 of the proteins you need to function, as 'protein: 30g' could be 30g of pure leucine and none of the other 8 you must have to survive.

    Slightly related, research shows prepubescent/pubescent kids likely should not be put on these kinds of diets for developmental reasons, but for old farts like us who are just kind of sustaining, we probably haven't got much to worry about.

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