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    Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    hello all,

    I am going to put 8.04 onto an acer aspire laptop 7720-6374 - I tried to put on ubuntu 7.10 and it installed ok but I had a nightmare getting the keys mapped properly - I believe my keyboard layout is for both an English and French Canadian layout. However installing 7.10 always gave me the default (green alternate character on the keyboard) display which I do not want - effectively I ended up not being able to use | or ~.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for an 8.04 install and on an other topic should I be concerned that the CPU fan will have problems on this acer as I believe it is controlled by software that is part of vista but not availble for linux. Same goes with sound I assume that I will still have the problem with getting sound fixed unless I update alsa and adjust the config for Acer.

    Any feedback is much appreciated and I will comment on the install when done.

    D.

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    Re: Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    I have an Acer Aspire 7720-6152. I was running 7.10 and now I'm running 8.04 with the rt kernel upgraded from March's beta version. Keep in mind that my 7.10 was normal Ubuntu with the generic kernel, and my 8.04 was Ubuntu Studio with the rt kernel. Here is the experience I've had so far:

    • On Ubuntu 7.10 my Realtek audio wasn't working right off. I had to manually install the latest alsa drivers. 8.04 works with the sound right off, although once in a while amarok gives an error that the sound has to be restarted and sometimes sound stops working, but not very often.
    • On both Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, my built in webcam worked without any problems after installing cheeze.
    • If I remember correctly, 7.10's wireless internet didn't work right off, but 8.04 did.
    • The keyboard extra keys worked for me with 7.10 and the generic kernel with the exception of the Euro key and the Dollar Sign key above the left and right arrow keys. 8.04 and the rt kernel, extra keys that didn't work were: the e, the mail button, internet and bluetooth key, and the internet key, some stick figure of a guy key, the Euro key and dollar sign key. Function and Media keys such as volume, mute, and changing brightness seem to work, but I don't use the next/previous play/pause and stop keys, but they seem to work. I'm not sure if this is an rt-kernel problem since it used to work.
    • The Nvidia drivers didn't seem to like compiz-fusion at first (or vica-versa), and animations are choppy, especially after running for a while (memory leak? I don't see any though...). Loading a page in epiphany while rotating the cube slows the rotation down more than on my older, much weaker laptop. I don't think the 8600M GT is very well supported yet for compiz, but games seem to run well and an update to compiz recently seems to have at least helped. I've tried the 169 Nvidia driver (default), the 171, and the 173, and so far I think I prefer the 171 because it is newer than 169 but 173 doesn't let you change the resolution for games to anything but my highest resolution. You have to install without the repository for the later two. The installer nvidia makes works well if you uninstall the restricted modules and install the kernel headers.
    • I never did get the subwoofer working.
    • The fan seems to be working fine, but I don't know if our laptops are identical. The fan seems to blow when it should.
    • Epiphany, my prefered web browser, seems to crawl compared to firefox. Expecially hovering over links with javascript and changing tabs.
    • Nautilus frequently freaks out when I drag files over the pane on the left side. It thinks I want to drop files before I let go of the key. This might just be a 8.04 beta issue though.
    • Flash nonfree plugin doesn't work very well. It will play a youtube video for about 1 minute, and then the cpu will drop to near 0% and the browser will freeze. This seems to happen in both Firefox and Epiphany, and even Konqueror doesn't seem to like flash much.


    So in summary, sound and wireless should work for you, but unfortunately the keys or special buttons at top of the keyboard don't. Also the compiz-fusion, flash and epiphany bugs are bothersome, though compiz does seem to be working better now. With those two exceptions, things seem to be working well.

    One last thought, if you don't like variable cpu speeds (like if you are plugged in all of the time) you could try setting the speed to performance on startup

    Check your speed this way:
    Code:
    cat /proc/cpuinfo
    This is how I changed it to the fastest setting, where -c # is the number
    of the processor.
    Code:
    sudo cpufreq-selector -c 0 -g performance
    sudo cpufreq-selector -c 1 -g performance
    Let me know if anyone figures out the fixes to any of these problems I've had. I hope this helps and I hope someone can help me too. I can't wait until most of the bugs are worked out for this hardware, because it will be a very nice machine, although it is already pretty good.

    Steve

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    Re: Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    Thanks Steve,

    I have to say that with 8.04 everything seems to work right out of the box. I have had absolutely no keyboard issues, sound was working right from install (although at maximum the volume is still not loud enough for me so I will see if I can change this) - I cannot get the subwoofer to work as well.

    At this point I have found no problems with the CPU getting too hot and shutting down - although I have disabled hibernate and any sleep status which I believe was causing the problem from previous versions - I really have no need for these in my environment anyway.

    the webcam does indeed work with cheese and the alps touchpad that I had problems with previously does work fine except that the rocker button (middle button) when clicked up it will scroll the screen doen when clicked down it will not scroll at all.

    I was away on business the past week so I have not had the chance to go through all the options but I was so glad that the wireless card was working right away, sound working right away, no display issues, ethernet card recognized, all of my keys except for the euro key seem to be fine.

    The only complain really is that when I boot into Ubuntu it displays my screen brightness at the lowest automatically which I then have to adjust everytime - I have noticed that it will occasionally reset to the lowest brightness setting while I am working as well - not a big deal for me to increase the brightness when this happens although I would like to know why it is doing this.

    All in all I am very happy with the install and my migration from Vista on this device should be complete very shortly - just need a suitable dreamweaver alternative and C#.net development ability (I am looking into options).

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    I'm glad to hear everything seems to be working for you, even the extra keys other than euro? I'm thinking of doing a fresh install of Ubuntu, I'm not sure if some of my problems are from Ubuntu Studio and the rt kernel.

    I noticed the screen dims as well, and the pattern seems to be (other than dimming on startup) as your battery runs low, the screen seems to be compensating for it. My screen never dims on AC power except when it first boots. I'm guessing there should be a fix for it, but I haven't been bothered enought to look for it. Maybe it's something changable in the gconf-editor. Which reminds me...

    If you notice your volume wheel being too quick to change volumes (the "step" is too big) go to /apps/gnome_settings_daemon in the gconf-editor (Configuration Editor) and change the volume_step, which I set to 2. Also, the volume was backwards where wheeling up turns the volume down (also true in Windows) so I reversed it in System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts.

    I just had an update that has messed my wireless up, so I hope I can get it fixed soon. The network-manager is still there, but no networks show up, and I can only get it to connect (sometimes) with a manual configuration.

    Let me know if you or anyone else have some good advice about this model of laptop.

    Steve

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    Re: Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    @Steve - Thanks for the tip on volume steps and reversing the wheel- I've been living with the small annoyance until now. Any luck with the subwoofer? It's the last problem I have on my Acer 7720G, albeit not a huge problem, when I'm without headphones the sound is so tinny.

    @deevabone - You've probably found a Dreamweaver replacement already, but it's worth recommending Aptana Studio- I'm a professional web developer who solely used the code view in Dreamweaver for XHTML/CSS- never touched the WYSIWYG. Aptana is actually better for this!

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    Re: Acer Aspire 7720-6374

    Hello,

    @xanthe - thanks for the Aptana suggestion I prefer to do any web development at the code level so this looks very good - just need to get used to a few things. Mostly doing stuff with Turbogears now and seeing how I can utilize Aptana for my template development.

    However not sure if you have noticed as well but reviewing my log files the debug log was being consumed with constant APIC error on CPU0 :40(40) errors. I tried forever to figure out what the problem was but was never able to determine. However I decided to update the BIOS to v1.40 which I picked up from here ftp://ftp.work.acer-euro.com/noteboo...20/vista/Bios/ and then flashed with a boot disk (Ultimate Boot Disk using Free Dos) and this solved the problem. Now I am not sure if you are encountering the same problems or if this is right for your machine version but thought that I would mention - BIOS updates can be scary.

    I still need to do C# development and was not too happy with Mono so I decided to install a copy of Windows XP using VMware Server within Ubuntu. This seems to work well with no problems. I set up samba and created a folder to share files between the virtual OS and Ubuntu which is great.

    Still can't get the subwoofer to work or the MIC to record anything. I have also noticed that I am unable to use pulse audio for anything and have made ALSA my defualt - not too bad but would be nice to control volume at the application level.

    All in all things seem to be going quite well.

    D.

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