What is the latest news on the MS patent lawsuit against linux?

[josephellengar]

I just learned about it. I hope that I'm not asking this when it was already settled. I couldn't find anything about it anywhere. Thanks!

[Daveski]

The cynical would say that there will never be any progress and MS just trot this out every now-and-then to reinforce doubt in corporate minds to try to make sure that people err of the side of caution and choose a Windows solution rather than a Linux solution 'just in case'. 'course I would never suggest this :-)

[happysmileman]

Microsoft said "Every Linux user is infringing on 235 patents".
Linux users said "Prove it, tell us which patents".
Microsoft shut up.

That's basically it.

[Daveski]

I get the impression that the US hands out patents like sweets (candy). Most of the patents infringed are probably things like 'using an eyeball or pair of eyeballs to visualise information, data and images on a display device'.
I suspect if these 235 patents were made public, many of them would not survive being re-examined.

[zmjjmz]

Microsoft said "Every Linux user is infringing on 235 patents".
Linux users said "Prove it, tell us which patents".
Microsoft shut up.

That's basically it.
And now the Bilski ruling has invalidated most of their patents.

[shadylookin]

Microsoft said "Every Linux user is infringing on 235 patents".
Linux users said "Prove it, tell us which patents".
Microsoft shut up.

That's basically it.

ya and I'm pretty sure if they don't sue within a certain period of time I think they lose claim to those patents so MS better get on the ball.

I think they were hoping for the SCO lawsuit to get rid of linux but that fell through.

[I-75]

This is what Ballmer said .. in part.......from 2006.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005338

"Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer openly declared last week that he believes the Linux source code infringes upon Microsoft's intellectual property (IP). And companies that use Linux, apart from Novell's SUSE distribution, face a latent financial time bomb that he called an "undisclosed balance sheet liability."

[wrtpeeps]

Microsoft said "Every Linux user is infringing on 235 patents".
Linux users said "Prove it, tell us which patents".
Microsoft shut up.

That's basically it.

Nuh uh. It was more them having a go a the more Corporate distros.

[-grubby]

I've never heard of "M$"

[josephellengar]

I've never heard of "M$"

Microsoft.

[PhoenixMaster00]

I too just read about it to theres nothing to worry about though. Anything supposedly infringing there patent can be changed. As long as they dont reveal the infringements there is always that threat and scare tactic to put off potential linux users.
Look on the bright side it shows MS sees us as an emerging threat.

[KiwiNZ]

Thread title corrected

[wrtpeeps]

Microsoft.

nathangrubb was merely highlighting the pathetic childish "m$" that people seem to love so much.

Want a quick way for people to think you're a fool? Start using little things like that.

[josephellengar]

nathangrubb was merely highlighting the pathetic childish "m$" that people seem to love so much.

Want a quick way for people to think you're a fool? Start using little things like that.

Some would say that it's merely a political statement. Some would also say that you are a "pathetic childish fool" for bothering to antagonize somebody about a single character that can easily be ignored if you feel that way about it. I think that that especially applies in a community where it is an accepted substitute for MS.

[RiceMonster]

Some would say that it's merely a political statement.

It's an immature way to express a political opinion, though.

[TBOL3]

You know, patents are the protection of PUBLISHED advances and techniques. So, if they really are patented, we should be able to simply look at them. If the patents were in the source code, they would have to be public (well, not public for 'all' to see, but they would be available in some way or other).

[wrtpeeps]

Some would say that it's merely a political statement. Some would also say that you are a "pathetic childish fool" for bothering to antagonize somebody about a single character that can easily be ignored if you feel that way about it. I think that that especially applies in a community where it is an accepted substitute for MS.

So accepted that the mods changed the thread title? :rolleyes:

[josephellengar]

So accepted that the mods changed the thread title? :rolleyes:
The mods changed the thread title because someone complained. :rolleyes: Namely: you. How many people read this thread title who didn't complain? In my rounds of the forums today I have seen this used three separate times.

[wrtpeeps]

The mods changed the thread title because someone complained. :rolleyes: Namely: you. How many people read this thread title who didn't complain? In my rounds of the forums today I have seen this used three separate times.

I complained?

Check again mate. Changed before I posted. :rolleyes:

[-grubby]

Sorry for jacking your thread idigchess...
I didn't think people would get so uptight over me objecting to the usage of "M$". Admittedly, I did use "M$" at one point, though I eventually quit. I just find it a little immature, and I see it alot, so it especially irks me.

[josephellengar]

I complained?

Check again mate. Changed before I posted. :rolleyes:

Okay, nathangrubb. Either way, it's only one person out of a community of the hundreds or thousands who have seen my thread title.

[wrtpeeps]

Okay, nathangrubb. Either way, it's only one person out of a community of the hundreds or thousands who have seen my thread title.

You'll understand eventually, don't worry.

[geo909]

Can you give me a link that says about this lawsuit? It's the first time I hear about it.

[KiwiNZ]

The mods changed the thread title because someone complained. :rolleyes: Namely: you. How many people read this thread title who didn't complain? In my rounds of the forums today I have seen this used three separate times.


I changed the title , there were no approaches made to me
Please do not make groundless accusations against other members.

And please use correct spelling etc in thread titles, the use of M$ is way past its expiry date

[-grubby]

He could've referred to them as Micro$loth

He could have referred to it as anything.

[josephellengar]

I changed the title , there were no approaches made to me
Please do not make groundless accusations against other members.

And please use correct spelling etc in thread titles, the use of M$ is way past its expiry date

Well that's certainly a misuse of power. If a person wants to express an opinion then that's their prerogative. What right do you have to change that becasue of your opinion?

[wrtpeeps]

Well that's certainly a misuse of power. If a person wants to express an opinion then that's their prerogative. What right do you have to change that becasue of your opinion?

We don't want the forum descending into a shower of idiocy. To be honest, he's an admin, he can do whatever the hell he wants. ):P

[andras artois]

I don't think you can actually patent how a program works or howan OS works anymore, there was something about it on the redhat site quite a while ago.

[Handyman Felting]

Well that's certainly a misuse of power. If a person wants to express an opinion then that's their prerogative. What right do you have to change that becasue of your opinion?

M$ isn't an opinion.

Edit: Even if it were, why can't opinions be moderated here? If I were to say "<beep beep>" I am sure I would be modded, and rightly so.

[Sealbhach]

nathangrubb was merely highlighting the pathetic childish "m$" that people seem to love so much.

Want a quick way for people to think you're a fool? Start using little things like that.

I think, personally that use of Winblows, *******, M$, Microshaft etc. is good and should not be discouraged. Why? Because we're in a war - not of our choosing - but they want to crush our freedoms. They have their propaganda, we should have ours.


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[wrtpeeps]

I think, personally that use of Winblows, *******, M$, Microshaft etc. is good and should not be discouraged. Why? Because we're in a war - not of our choosing - but they want to crush our freedoms. They have their propaganda, we should have ours.


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:lolflag:

[Dragonbite]

Can you give me a link that says about this lawsuit? It's the first time I hear about it.
Yes, a link would be helpful (not to mention may get this thread back on subject).

[wrtpeeps]

It's old news to be honest/

[sydbat]

I think, personally that use of Winblows, *******, M$, Microshaft etc. is good and should not be discouraged. Why? Because we're in a war - not of our choosing - but they want to crush our freedoms. They have their propaganda, we should have ours.


.But if we stoop to their level, we cannot say we are better/have a better product/etc. Taking the high road instead of calling names makes you look more adult/mature/professional and therefore you will be taken seriously when talking about anything.

[bonzodog]

Its a "cold war" situation to be honest. One of the reasons that Microsoft have palled up with Novell is that Novell own all the big Unix patents, some of which are in use in Linux and Windows. IBM likewise own some patents that are in use on both platforms. If any kind of case was to come up over the breach of a patent, then MS could simply get countersued by IBM or Novell, over a patent held that Windows breaches, which is why they set up a "we wont if you dont" agreement with Novell.

And MS know better than to annoy Big Blue and its army of Lawyers, sometimes called "The Nazgul".

[JohnFH]

I think, personally that use of Winblows, *******, M$, Microshaft etc. is good and should not be discouraged. Why? Because we're in a war - not of our choosing - but they want to crush our freedoms. They have their propaganda, we should have ours.
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With attitudes like that I'm going back to Windows ...

[josephellengar]

Yes, a link would be helpful (not to mention may get this thread back on subject).
Here's one:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/

[KiwiNZ]

Well that's certainly a misuse of power. If a person wants to express an opinion then that's their prerogative. What right do you have to change that becasue of your opinion?

It is the role of the staff of this forum to manage the Forum . That includes , content, quality ,reputation and overall professionalism.

I would suggest you re-acquaint yourself with the Forum COC

[Dragonbite]

Here's one:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/

Thanks!
Oh, so this is about an article in May of this year?

[Asgar]

I once used windows 3.1, it was so pretty with all the colors but then i started to get head aches :( sniff

[wrtpeeps]

Thanks!
Oh, so this is about an article in May of this year?

The article was written in May, but I'm nearly sure the actual incident happened before that???

[phrostbyte]

We don't want the forum descending into a shower of idiocy. To be honest, he's an admin, he can do whatever the hell he wants. ):P

No he can't. Forum moderators are bounded by the rules of the forum and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct like anyone else.

[nick09]

Well if we all act like Microsoft then we are no better than they are. Two wrong acts do not equal a right act. Saying such things like "M$" is a immature thing to do.

Microsoft is in such a high place in the market because they got into it just the right time and they KNOW how to work the computer market to what they want. Linux has many smaller companies that such as Canonical and hardware developers support Linux less than Windows because they want that green in their hands.