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handy
November 29th, 2008, 12:36 AM
The following link is very educational regarding internet privacy & should really be read by all who use the internet imho:

https://www.torproject.org/torusers.html.en
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Some people consider the use of Tor (https://www.torproject.org/) to be an inconvenience as it slows down their internet use. It comes down to personal priorities in the end.

Another extremely useful tool is Privoxy (http://www.privoxy.org/) which combines very well with Tor & web browsing.

I use the Firefox TorButton (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275) to handle Tor & Privoxy as it offers far more configuration options (than it used to).

On OS-X Tiger & above the QT based Vidalia (http://www.vidalia-project.net/) works very nicely with Tor & Privoxy, in combination with the TorButton. This may be the case with Ubuntu, as I'm not running Ubuntu I can't test it.

Yownanymous
November 29th, 2008, 12:47 AM
OK, I installed Tor, now what?

handy
November 29th, 2008, 02:19 AM
You need to set up Tor, which will include installing Privoxy, here is a good page with instructions:

https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en

This Privoxy config file may be all you need:

https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/PrivoxyConfig

Also, use the TorButton (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275) if you are using Firefox, it is better than Vidalia, in fact it has improved so much since I last looked at it that I will edit my original post.

Eclipse.
November 29th, 2008, 04:12 AM
Tor isnt good.

Everybody elses dirty work gets routed through you.

handy
November 29th, 2008, 05:41 AM
Tor isnt good.

Everybody elses dirty work gets routed through you.

I'm sorry, you don't understand how Tor works.

You should go & read about Tor at the Tor site, links provided in the OP.

Here is a paragraph from the Tor site:

Tor is a software project that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security. Tor protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, and it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location. Tor works with many of your existing applications, including web browsers, instant messaging clients, remote login, and other applications based on the TCP protocol.

blakjesus
November 29th, 2008, 10:28 AM
I heard some people were complainging to the makers of Tor about people using Tor for illegal uses, and wanted them to allow people to see what is being routed through them. I dont know hoe far this got but isnt that pretty much just as bad as an ISP selling your information to businesses.

linuxguymarshall
November 29th, 2008, 10:32 AM
I heard some people were complainging to the makers of Tor about people using Tor for illegal uses, and wanted them to allow people to see what is being routed through them. I dont know hoe far this got but isnt that pretty much just as bad as an ISP selling your information to businesses.

I dont support that but this is more like a ISP wanting to see what you are doing in their routers.

handy
November 29th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I heard some people were complainging to the makers of Tor about people using Tor for illegal uses, and wanted them to allow people to see what is being routed through them. I dont know hoe far this got but isnt that pretty much just as bad as an ISP selling your information to businesses.

No matter what you do & how many people that are happy with your work, you will always have the noisy one's complaining because they have a perceived loss of some kind, or of course they don't understand the situation.

I've read a fair bit of the Tor site's documentation & some of their blog & their is no indication that they are going to do anything at all that will go against their prime philosophy of protecting people's privacy.

tomcheng76
November 29th, 2008, 02:09 PM
IMO Tor is not needed for general users. I tried Tor, it is really slow thing down.
Firefox with no script, abp is just fit.
They can block ads and analytics js.

handy
November 29th, 2008, 11:44 PM
IMO Tor is not needed for general users. I tried Tor, it is really slow thing down.
Firefox with no script, abp is just fit.
They can block ads and analytics js.

NoScript is extremely complex with subtle traps built in that few would notice. If you think you need protection for somewhere on the net it would seem that the Tor/Privoxy combination with nothing else will give you the best we can get.

If you combine Tor/Privoxy with NoScript, you are just as likely making a security hole in the screen according to the Tor website.

So forgetting to use the TorButton becomes the biggest security risk under these circumstances.

I'm currently trying to get Polipo (http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/polipo/) working as a caching proxy on the machine I use, if I can get it to work, it will speed up my internet access (reduce lag) & also do some of the Privoxy shielding for me.

smartboyathome
November 29th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Well, I might've looked into it if it worked with OpenDNS. Unfortunately, according to this post (http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=2190), tor treats OpenDNS as a DNS that has been hacked.

handy
November 30th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Well, I might've looked into it if it worked with OpenDNS. Unfortunately, according to this post (http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=2190), tor treats OpenDNS as a DNS that has been hacked.

Very interesting post, I expect that the Tor people would sort that out.

I just searched their blog for opendns & got no results?

echo6
December 4th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Out of interest how did you build Privoxy?


configure: WARNING: You are using the static PCRE code which is scheduled for removal, for details see:

magmon
December 4th, 2008, 10:04 PM
I use foxy proxy, easy and integrates with firefox.

bryncoles
December 5th, 2008, 03:38 PM
NoScript is extremely complex with subtle traps built in that few would notice.

that got my attention! what subtle traps, might i ask?