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Grant A.
November 24th, 2008, 08:23 AM
I noticed that a lot of time my firewall will go and pop-up saying:

"attack prevented! [malware name] from [IP Address]"


Why does no one ever report these IPs to the police? Wouldn't that help weed out the amounts of viri distributing-computers out there? I mean after all, isn't virus distribution and creation a major crime in most countries?

handy
November 24th, 2008, 08:32 AM
I don't know how, (I'm sure someone will tell us thought) but I think the IP's are very hard to trace.

Maybe they use Tor or a system like it, though I think they may be more effective & efficient.

Giant Speck
November 24th, 2008, 08:45 AM
I don't think the police would be able to do anything about it, especially if the attack is coming from foreign nations. It's already out of their jurisdiction. If it was foreign, it'd be even more out of their jurisdiction.

Grant A.
November 24th, 2008, 08:46 AM
Well, a simple call to the ISP from the police to tell them to block internet access for stated I.P. probably would help a bit. I wouldn't think an I.P. would be very hard to trace if the ISP has a detailed log of who uses what.

Actually, there was a certain act put into effect in the United States that makes making and distributing malware illegal. Also, I know it would be out of their jurisdiction if it is a foreign attacker, but if it is in the country, why aren't they going after the attackers?

Tigershell
November 24th, 2008, 09:01 AM
Probably innocent users unknowingly part of a botnet

Grant A.
November 24th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Probably innocent users unknowingly part of a botnet

It would still be a good idea for the police to call them and tell them to immediately send their computer in to get fixed, if they can't do it themselves.

igknighted
November 24th, 2008, 09:20 AM
It would still be a good idea for the police to call them and tell them to immediately send their computer in to get fixed, if they can't do it themselves.

Then the police would spend all their time doing that instead of stopping real crimes. If anyone should be resposible, ISP's should be policing traffic over their own network. But the manpower required to make that feasible would make my internet connection no longer affordable to me... so no thanks. Those who don't properly secure their computer can suffer.

PS... most of those times your firewall pops those messages up it isn't really an attack... it just makes users who don't know ant better feel better. Malware protection software should never be seen or heard, IMO.

lisati
November 24th, 2008, 09:26 AM
I don't know how, (I'm sure someone will tell us thought) but I think the IP's are very hard to trace.

Maybe they use Tor or a system like it, though I think they may be more effective & efficient.
http://www.whatismyipaddress.com can provide some information....and the ISP should have some kind of log that can pinpoint things down further.... A potential hitch, however, is when someone is hiding behind a proxy or other anonymizing system.


Actually, there was a certain act put into effect in the United States that makes making and distributing malware illegal. Also, I know it would be out of their jurisdiction if it is a foreign attacker, but if it is in the country, why aren't they going after the attackers?

We have similar legislation here in NZ making it illegal to send out SPAM and other nusiance stuff.

ice60
November 24th, 2008, 09:28 AM
they're mostly worms, maybe the ips are on your isp even? the people on the computers probably have no idea, so it would be funny if they ended up getting locked up for it lol

lakersforce
November 24th, 2008, 09:30 AM
Most of the time it is just a port-scan, not an attack. And it isn't illegal.

Grant A.
November 24th, 2008, 09:30 AM
Then the police would spend all their time doing that instead of stopping real crimes. If anyone should be resposible, ISP's should be policing traffic over their own network. But the manpower required to make that feasible would make my internet connection no longer affordable to me... so no thanks.


One answering machine and 2 people making phone calls all day really destroys the affordability.



Those who don't properly secure their computer can suffer.


Since when do botnets ONLY affect one computer?



PS... most of those times your firewall pops those messages up it isn't really an attack... it just makes users who don't know ant better feel better. Malware protection software should never be seen or heard, IMO.

If it states what kind of malware it was though, I take that as a threat that SHOULD be reported.

handy
November 24th, 2008, 09:53 AM
http://www.whatismyipaddress.com can provide some information....and the ISP should have some kind of log that can pinpoint things down further.... A potential hitch, however, is when someone is hiding behind a proxy or other anonymizing system.

I would use a proxy & anything else to hide behind in their shoes.



We have similar legislation here in NZ making it illegal to send out SPAM and other nusiance stuff.

Same here I think as well.

karellen
November 24th, 2008, 01:15 PM
I think the police has better things to do than track some randoms ip's that might prove to be malevolent

EnGorDiaz
November 24th, 2008, 03:31 PM
I don't know how, (I'm sure someone will tell us thought) but I think the IP's are very hard to trace.

Maybe they use Tor or a system like it, though I think they may be more effective & efficient.

there are way way more untraceable system networks out there other than tor trust me... and there huge