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D-TurboKiller
November 11th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Hey guys, first time in the forums.
I'm a hardcore gamer. I've been a bit angry with Windows Vista since it wasn't exactly good in terms of performance, and for my laptop, that's not good at all. Also the Intel graphics drivers are really sucky, especially for OpenGL (Definitely noted in the game Sauerbraten).
I remembered Ubuntu and I thought "why not? It's such a great OS anyway". So I installed Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), which FINNALY supports my wireless device. I've been exploring it a bit, adding apps, trying new stuff, etc. But I found some annoying & serious problems, mostly graphics related.

First of all, here are my specs:
Computer: Toshiba L40 Laptop
OS: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T5200 (I think)
GPU: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family
RAM: 1 GB


Now, the problems...
-Many games and apps have serious graphics problems. Some examples are Neverball (runs much slower than on Vista...), Neverputt, Scorched3D, Urban Terror (which also runs slow as hell for some reason), Elisa Media Center, etc. They have garbled graphics. Example: Neverball after a few seconds becomes all garbled.

-Related to the previous problem... On windowed mode, for example on Neverball, whenever I click with the left mouse button the game screen suddenly goes black for just a fraction of the second and then the game screen appears again, but with garbled graphics. I think it also tends to garble in fullscreen mode when I click. These graphical problems lead me to the next question...

-Is there an easy tutorial on how to get and install the linux intel drivers for my graphics card? I went to "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers" and the list is empty, so I'm assuming I don't have anything. That would also explain why some games run so slow...

-Some applications won't run. For example ZSNES, the Super Nintendo Emulator, doesn't even start when I click the icon on the apps menu. It doesn't happen anything at all. I got it from the third-party repository included in Ubuntu.
Also, Extreme Penguin Racer doesn't run after I'm in the game and I click the run button. It just exits to the desktop.

-Some apps, when at fullscreen mode, suddenly switch to windowed mode, leaving the mouse locked, which leaves me no choice but to restart Ubuntu. For example, Sauerbraten suddenly switched to windowed mode while I was playing. I could see the mouse cursor in the center of the window, but I couldn't move it. Even in-game it didn't move...

-Some apps don't play music. The Enigma game, for example, doesn't play music at all, even when it's turned on.

-This one isn't a problem, but more of a question. Is there a good Benchmark program like the 3DMark series but for linux? It would be a great performance test for my laptop. Of course, I'd only use it after someone helps me with the Intel graphics drivers...

EDIT:
-I was forgetting this one. The wireless connection tends to fail sometimes. Not sure why... it works fine on Vista. It happens more ofter when I start Ubuntu, after that it's pretty much rare.


Well, I think these are all of them. I hope you can help me with this; I'm really stumped here.
Anyway I'll be going to bed in an hour or so. Thank you all, and good night ;)

D-TurboKiller
November 12th, 2008, 09:10 AM
*bump*
Come on, I need help here.

eternalnewbee
November 12th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Hi there, and welcome to the Ubuntu forums.
That's a lot of info you provided.But let's start with the graphic card: As there was nothing to be seen in Hardware Drivers you most probably have an onboard card, and that might explain the sloppy performance of your games.
If I were you, and I had some cash, I'd buy me a decent graphic card. I use Nvidia 7300GT, so something similar would suit your purposes. If you can't afford to buy one, I suggest you check out some places here on the forums that might be able to help you further with your issues.
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
http://gaming.gwos.org/doku.php

Hope this will ease your suffering a bit[-o<

3rdalbum
November 12th, 2008, 10:47 AM
I can't explain the decreased performance of your card when running in Ubuntu, but Intel's graphics drivers are open-source and therefore already installed. If you're getting incredibly low frame rates like 2 fps (or 3D games won't run), then that's when you know you don't have graphics drivers.

Maybe disabling Compiz will help? I haven't had to do it, but then I've got a modern discrete graphics card. I have actually once experienced the full-screen problem you describe; temporarily disabling Compiz might be the solution.

I would recommend, if you are a hardcore gamer, building a desktop PC. With respect, not too many hardcore gamers get about with Intel integrated graphics :-)

There is a benchmark program for Linux - it's called the Phoronix Test Suite. You can get it from www.phoronix.com (which is also a great Linux performance computing news and reviews website).

3rdalbum
November 12th, 2008, 10:50 AM
If I were you, and I had some cash, I'd buy me a decent graphic card.

Laptop. Otherwise, good idea.

eternalnewbee
November 12th, 2008, 11:08 AM
By the way. I understood from your post that you're not exactly sure about your system specifications. You can check under: Main Menu > System > Administration > System Monitor > System.
There's also a very handy Application called Sysinfo, that will give you extended information about your system. You can install it from Add/Remove Applications in the Main Menu.
After the installation is complete you can find it under Main Menu > System Tools.
Hope this helps.

lisati
November 12th, 2008, 11:18 AM
By the way. I understood from your post that you're not exactly sure about your system specifications. You can check under: Main Menu > System > Administration > System Monitor > System.
There's also a very handy Application called Sysinfo, that will give you extended information about your system. You can install it from Add/Remove Applications in the Main Menu.
After the installation is complete you can find it under Main Menu > System Tools.
Hope this helps.

Sysinfo is one of several tools that can help with learning about your system specs. If you don't mind using the terminal/command line, then the following can some up with some useful nuggets:
[code]sudo dmidecode[code]

As for the wireless: on my older Toshiba A100 laptop, the wireless has been known to sometimes cut out for no obvious reason. The only pattern I've noticed is that it seems to happen more often when the laptop has been powered up for a while, even though the case doesn't seem to be that hot to the touch. I haven't noticed a problem on my newer Toshiba M200 laptop, but I've only had it a few weeks, and often have it hooked up by ethernet.

eternalnewbee
November 12th, 2008, 11:26 AM
Laptop. Otherwise, good idea.:oops::oops::oops:

Bartender
November 12th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Wait a minute. You're a "hardcore gamer" but you bought a laptop with onboard Intel graphics??

Don't get me wrong, Intel graphics chips and Ubuntu play well together, but it sounds like your problem isn't Ubuntu.

The problem is you're asking too much from a basic laptop.

EDIT: I'm not a hardcore gamer. Aren't most of those games you mention written for Windows? Are you running them under WINE or what?

D-TurboKiller
November 12th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Thank you all for your replies!

eternalnewbee:
Laptop, onboard Intel card. 'nuff said.
Yes, I do wish I had a better computer, but you don't need a crazily powerful computer to be a hardcore gamer. You just need good games which offer a challenge and of course are fun to play.

3rdalbum:
I'm pretty sure I don't have graphics drivers installed. Urban Terror is running at less than 1 FPS in-game; In Vista it would easily top 60 FPS. Also the game has some garbled graphics. Same thing for Neverball: low FPS, a LOT of garbled graphics. Vista? Again, more than 60 FPS.
Well, I'd disable Compiz, but I have no idea how.
And thanks for the benchmark program, it'll prove to be very useful! After I install the graphics drivers, that is. But for that I NEED A TUTORIAL...

lisati:
Hey thanks! Here's what I got:


# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.4 present.
34 structures occupying 1534 bytes.
Table at 0x000FCD10.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
Version: V1.60
Release Date: 09/19/2007
Address: 0xF0000
Runtime Size: 64 kB
ROM Size: 1024 kB
Characteristics:
ISA is supported
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
ESCD support is available
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
BIOS ROM is socketed
EDD is supported
5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
ACPI is supported
USB legacy is supported
LS-120 boot is supported
ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
BIOS boot specification is supported
Targeted content distribution is supported
BIOS Revision: 6.24
Firmware Revision: 188.11

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Product Name: Satellite L40
Version: PSL48E-01T00GPT
Serial Number: X7191891R
UUID: 9B3B81DC-8874-C8C1-CC00-001D60F5B140
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number:
Family:

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Product Name: Satellite L40
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: BSN12345678901234567
Asset Tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Features:
Board is a hosting board
Board is replaceable
Location In Chassis: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Chassis Handle: 0x0003
Type: Motherboard
Contained Object Handles: 0

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 21 bytes
Chassis Information
Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Type: Notebook
Lock: Present
Version:
Serial Number:
Asset Tag:
Boot-up State: Safe
Power Supply State: Safe
Thermal State: Safe
Security Status: None
OEM Information: 0x00000000
Height: Unspecified
Number Of Power Cords: 1
Contained Elements: 0

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
Socket Designation: Socket 478
Type: Central Processor
Family: Pentium M
Manufacturer: Intel
ID: FD 06 00 00 FF FB EB BF
Signature: Type 0, Family 6, Model 15, Stepping 13
Flags:
FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
VME (Virtual mode extension)
DE (Debugging extension)
PSE (Page size extension)
TSC (Time stamp counter)
MSR (Model specific registers)
PAE (Physical address extension)
MCE (Machine check exception)
CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
SEP (Fast system call)
MTRR (Memory type range registers)
PGE (Page global enable)
MCA (Machine check architecture)
CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
PAT (Page attribute table)
PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
DS (Debug store)
ACPI (ACPI supported)
MMX (MMX technology supported)
FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore)
SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
SS (Self-snoop)
HTT (Hyper-threading technology)
TM (Thermal monitor supported)
PBE (Pending break enabled)
Version: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2310 @ 1.46GHz
Voltage: 1.4 V
External Clock: 133 MHz
Max Speed: 1467 MHz
Current Speed: 1463 MHz
Status: Populated, Enabled
Upgrade: Socket 423
L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005
L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006
L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Part Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L1-Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 32 KB
Maximum Size: 32 KB
Supported SRAM Types:
Other
Installed SRAM Type: Other
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Parity
System Type: Data
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L2-Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 1024 KB
Maximum Size: 1024 KB
Supported SRAM Types:
Other
Installed SRAM Type: Other
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
System Type: Instruction
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 5, 20 bytes
Memory Controller Information
Error Detecting Method: None
Error Correcting Capabilities:
None
Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave
Current Interleave: One-way Interleave
Maximum Memory Module Size: 2048 MB
Maximum Total Memory Size: 4096 MB
Supported Speeds:
Other
70 ns
60 ns
50 ns
Supported Memory Types:
Standard
DIMM
SDRAM
Memory Module Voltage: 3.3 V
Associated Memory Slots: 2
0x0008
0x0009
Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities:
None

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM0
Bank Connections: 0 1
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: Standard DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: 512 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Enabled Size: 512 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Error Status: OK

Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM1
Bank Connections: 2 3
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: Standard DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: 512 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Enabled Size: 512 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Error Status: OK

Handle 0x000A, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3602
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: USB1
External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3601
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: USB2
External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3601
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: USB3
External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3501
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: MODEM
External Connector Type: RJ-11
Port Type: Modem Port

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3501
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: LAN
External Connector Type: RJ-45
Port Type: Network Port

Handle 0x000F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON2202
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Headphone Out
External Connector Type: Mini Jack (headphones)
Port Type: Audio Port

Handle 0x0010, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON2301
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Mic In
External Connector Type: Mini Jack (headphones)
Port Type: Audio Port

Handle 0x0011, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON1302
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Video
External Connector Type: DB-15 female
Port Type: Video Port

Handle 0x0012, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON3301
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: SD/MMC/MS/XD
External Connector Type: Other
Port Type: Other

Handle 0x0013, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON2802 - PRI SATA
Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
External Reference Designator: Not Specified
External Connector Type: None
Port Type: Other

Handle 0x0014, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: CON2803 - SEC IDE
Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
External Reference Designator: Not Specified
External Connector Type: None
Port Type: Other

Handle 0x0015, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI1
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: In Use
Length: Short
ID: 0
Characteristics:
3.3 V is provided
Opening is shared
PME signal is supported

Handle 0x0016, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI2
Type: 32-bit PCI Express
Current Usage: Available
Length: Short
ID: 1
Characteristics:
3.3 V is provided
Opening is shared
PME signal is supported

Handle 0x0017, DMI type 11, 5 bytes
OEM Strings
String 1: PSL48E-01T00GPT,H07695PT

Handle 0x0018, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
Installable Languages: 3
en|US|iso8859-1
fr|FR|iso8859-1
ja|JP|unicode-1
Currently Installed Language: en|US|iso8859-1

Handle 0x0019, DMI type 15, 35 bytes
System Event Log
Area Length: 4 bytes
Header Start Offset: 0x0000
Header Length: 2 bytes
Data Start Offset: 0x0002
Access Method: Indexed I/O, one 16-bit index port, one 8-bit data port
Access Address: Index 0x046A, Data 0x046C
Status: Invalid, Not Full
Change Token: 0x00000000
Header Format: No Header
Supported Log Type Descriptors: 6
Descriptor 1: End of log
Data Format 1: OEM-specific
Descriptor 2: End of log
Data Format 2: OEM-specific
Descriptor 3: End of log
Data Format 3: OEM-specific
Descriptor 4: End of log
Data Format 4: OEM-specific
Descriptor 5: End of log
Data Format 5: OEM-specific
Descriptor 6: End of log
Data Format 6: OEM-specific

Handle 0x001A, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: None
Maximum Capacity: 8 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 2

Handle 0x001B, DMI type 19, 15 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x0003FFFFFFF
Range Size: 1 GB
Physical Array Handle: 0x001A
Partition Width: 0

Handle 0x001C, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x001A
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 512 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: SODIMM0
Bank Locator: BANK0
Type: DDR2
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Manufacturer: Manufacturer0
Serial Number: AssetTagNum0
Asset Tag: N/A
Part Number: N/A

Handle 0x001D, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
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Ending Address: 0x00003496BFF
Range Size: 53850 kB
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Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x001B
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown

Handle 0x001E, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x001A
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 512 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: SODIMM1
Bank Locator: BANK1
Type: DDR2
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Manufacturer: Manufacturer1
Serial Number: AssetTagNum1
Asset Tag: N/A
Part Number: N/A

Handle 0x001F, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000800
Ending Address: 0x000034BCBFF
Range Size: 54001 kB
Physical Device Handle: 0x001E
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x001B
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown

Handle 0x0020, DMI type 32, 20 bytes
System Boot Information
Status: No errors detected

Handle 0x0021, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
End Of Table

Hope this helps in any way ;)

Bartender:
See my response to eternalnewbee.
And yeah, all those games are available for Windows (Well, I have Windows Vista installed for some reason :P ) but ALSO for Linux. Wine is not necessary.

D-TurboKiller
November 13th, 2008, 09:01 AM
*bump*
Still need help. A lot.

D-TurboKiller
November 13th, 2008, 02:33 PM
*bump*
Still no answers... I REALLY need help here...
Even if you can't answer them all I'd still appreciate it if you could answer one or two...