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forrestcupp
November 8th, 2008, 03:46 PM
It's ok to use the letters "th" in words. It's ok to say things like "thing" "thought" "the" "this".

If you use the letters "th" then most people will know what in the world you're talking about and be able to have an intelligent conversation with you. Luckily, I saw the original thread that started this trend, but most people in this world don't have a clue what you're doing.

fiddledd
November 8th, 2008, 04:05 PM
It's ok to use the letters "th" in words. It's ok to say things like "thing" "thought" "the" "this".

If you use the letters "th" then most people will know what in the world you're talking about and be able to have an intelligent conversation with you. Luckily, I saw the original thread that started this trend, but most people in this world don't have a clue what you're doing.

I think most people will ignore the posts that don't contain 21st century English. At least that's what I've been doing.:)

gn2
November 8th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Not only is it OK to use th, it allows you to comply with section 9 of the Ubuntu forum code of conduct.

eternalnewbee
November 8th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Not only is it OK to use th, it allows you to comply with section 9 of the Ubuntu forum code of conduct.
Resistance is futile.

If you use the letters "th" then most people will know what in the world you're talking about and be able to have an intelligent conversation with you. Luckily, I saw the original thread that started this trend, but most people in this world don't have a clue what you're doing.
English is dynamic. This was bound to happen, sooner or later.
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LaRoza
November 8th, 2008, 05:00 PM
It's ok to use the letters "th" in words. It's ok to say things like "thing" "thought" "the" "this".

Yes, it is. Thank you for the refresher course in basic spelling ;)



If you use the letters "th" then most people will know what in the world you're talking about and be able to have an intelligent conversation with you. Luckily, I saw the original thread that started this trend, but most people in this world don't have a clue what you're doing.
Ok, then how about this, we'll use "th" in English, if everyone pronounces "thug" and every other foreign originating word that has "th" in it, but not for the þ/ð sounds.

Others figure it out, they aren't as clueless as you think. In my experience, they are interested in it and find that information interesting.

DanTheFlyingMan
November 8th, 2008, 05:06 PM
This trend is horrid.

LaRoza
November 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM
This trend is horrid.

I think what is truly horrid is the small amount of people who can do nothing but complain about a small thread on a forum about a single letter (two, if you count ð).

eternalnewbee
November 8th, 2008, 05:15 PM
So, in Arabic, the th, as in thug is the letter ث
And the th, as in they is the letter ذ
As the word "chemistry" comes from Arabic (not to mention the western numerical system) how about using these two symbols? (Just say No)

LaRoza
November 8th, 2008, 05:21 PM
So, in Arabic, the th, as in thug is the letter ث
And the th, as in they is the letter
No. the th in thug is more like ط

(An aspirated retroflex "t"). In Devanagari, ठ


As the word "chemistry" comes from Arabic (not to mention the western numerical system) how about using these two symbols? (Just say No)
The western numerical system comes from India ;)

forrestcupp
November 8th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Ok, then how about this, we'll use "th" in English, if everyone pronounces "thug" and every other foreign originating word that has "th" in it, but not for the þ/ð sounds.

Others figure it out, they aren't as clueless as you think. In my experience, they are interested in it and find that information interesting.

Most of the people that are following this confusion aren't even using the right letters in the right words. They're just trying to be cool with the latest Ubuntu Forum trend, and not even doing it right.

Do what you want, but since this is an English forum, I'm here to read English, which includes the English version of foreign words. So I'll probably just treat it like 1337 5P3@K and ignore it.

LaRoza
November 8th, 2008, 05:52 PM
Do what you want, but since this is an English forum, I'm here to read English, which includes the English version of foreign words. So I'll probably just treat it like 1337 5P3@K and ignore it.

Then shouldn't we use English letters?

You'll notice I don't use þ in everyday writing on this forum ;)

pp.
November 8th, 2008, 05:58 PM
I think what is truly horrid is the small amount of people who can do nothing but complain about a small thread on a forum about a single letter (two, if you count ð).

The complaints are not about the thread. The complaint is about using unusual glyphs in threads which are about 'real' topics.

gn2
November 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM
You'll notice I don't use þ in everyday writing on this forum ;)

What's the saying...?

Ah yes: thank heaven for small mercies.

chucky chuckaluck
November 8th, 2008, 06:32 PM
my great grandmother was from quebec and couldn't use "th" to save her life. one of the few times i ever heard her speak english was when she scolded my then three year old sister for sucking her thumb, saying "you should not suck your tumb." my sister responded "it's not tumb, it's fumb."

KiwiNZ
November 8th, 2008, 07:03 PM
The use of 'th' is fine
The recent trend for an alternative is the same as 'leet speak' and is contrary to the COC

Giant Speck
November 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM
The use of 'th' is fine
The recent trend for an alternative is the same as 'leet speak' and is contrary to the COC

It isn't a trend. It is a joke.

What people (on both sides of the argument) keep forgetting is that LaRoza was not completely serious. Besides, it's not like she is a leading authority in changing the alphabet anyway. I doubt we'll see a major change to the alphabet for many, many years.

KiwiNZ
November 8th, 2008, 07:58 PM
I am aware of the light heart nature of the original thread.

But the use of it has spread about the forum. That is the annoying part. And its a trend to be stopped the same as leet speak.

Giant Speck
November 8th, 2008, 08:01 PM
I am aware of the light heart nature of the original thread.

But the use of it has spread about the forum. That is the annoying part. And its a trend to be stopped the same as leet speak.

If it's really a problem, isn't there a way to setup a filter so that when people type Þ, it automatically changes to "th"?

This forum is run on vBulletin, no? I know it's possible on vBulletin. Just don't ask me how to do it! :p

-grubby
November 8th, 2008, 08:02 PM
If it's really a problem, isn't there a way to setup a filter so that when people type Þ, it automatically changes to "th"?

This forum is run on vBulletin, no? I know it's possible on vBulletin. Just don't ask me how to do it! :p

I think people can be mature enough to stop the use of Þ entirely and type real english. People refrain from cursing, why should it be any different with Þ?

gn2
November 8th, 2008, 08:11 PM
I think people can be mature enough to stop the use of Þ entirely and type real english.

Here's hoping......

Giant Speck
November 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM
I think people can be mature enough to stop the use of Þ entirely and type real english. People refrain from cursing, why should it be any different with Þ?

That isn't completely true. Look around the forums. There are plenty of instances where people try to circumvent the no cursing rule.

Redrazor39
November 8th, 2008, 09:09 PM
No. the th in thug is more like ط

(An aspirated retroflex "t"). In Devanagari, ठ

The western numerical system comes from India ;)

The concept of 0 comes from India, but the counting system did actually originate in Arabia. The Indians had a different numerical system altogether.

The Arabs also invented algebra. Lol they seem to have done everything.

forrestcupp
November 8th, 2008, 09:38 PM
You'll notice I don't use þ in everyday writing on this forum ;)
I know that, LaRoza. I've noticed. Even though you started the original idea, you're not really whom I was complaining about.

It's not really a big deal in a thread that's about that topic. It's just kind of confusing in threads about other topics where people who may not have seen the original thread participate.

No matter what, it's not really something worth getting bitter about. I guess I wasn't in a great mood when I started this rant.

eternalnewbee
November 9th, 2008, 02:14 AM
No. the th in thug is more like ط

I'm gonna have to be strict with you on that one Laroza:
ط is an emphatic T.

eternalnewbee
November 9th, 2008, 02:19 AM
The Arabs also invented algebra. Lol they seem to have done everything.
They didn't invent cuneiform writing:D

Giant Speck
November 9th, 2008, 02:39 AM
When I was learning Russian, it always annoyed me that there isn't a "th" sound, in all it's aspects. Most English cognates that contain "th" are usually written in Russian with an "с" (s) or a "т" (t) substituting for the "th."

Grant A.
November 9th, 2008, 04:12 AM
I'd hate to tell you this, but using the word filter to convert the thorn to a TH would disrupt localized forums for Icelandic.

Giant Speck
November 9th, 2008, 04:18 AM
I'd hate to tell you this, but using the word filter to convert the thorn to a TH would disrupt localized forums for Icelandic.

I think the filter can be set to affect specific forums. I'm not entirely sure, though.

Glucklich
November 9th, 2008, 04:26 AM
That means that the stupid character that I've mistaken for a "p" but did not completely looked like one, it's actually a trend and is not meant to be read as a "p"? Wow. Still, the "return of porn" was a funny title.

Giant Speck
November 9th, 2008, 04:27 AM
Are you also going to enforce correct spelling in the forums? After all, mis-spelling words is not correct use of language and is therefore misconduct.



Misspelling does not require a hyphen.

Oh, and nice attempt at sarcasm, there. =D>

t0p
November 9th, 2008, 04:33 AM
Misspelling does not require a hyphen.


I'll be the first against the wall then!