When can we expect the first Blu-Ray ripper?

[billgoldberg]

Now that the way to crack the blu-ray copy protection is public knowledge (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140571&page=17), when can we expect the first ripper for Linux?

Does anyone have any info on this?

Or will the dvd rip projects include this in future releases?

Thanks.

[gn2]

I believe that BD+ was defeated more than six months ago?

Shouldn't be too long to wait, in the meantime there's SlySoft (http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html).

[Polygon]

i read while they did crack bd+, its still not 100% complete so maybe a little longer

[Spr0k3t]

When? Not soon enough. We pay for the right to use the drive, then we pay for the right to use the media, then we pay for the right to view the media on the target device, then we pay for the right if we want to view the same media on another target device. Will this ever stop? Probably not.

[billgoldberg]

I believe that BD+ was defeated more than six months ago?

Shouldn't be too long to wait, in the meantime there's SlySoft (http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html).

It was cracked by those guys, but they've kept the method a secret.

Now it's public knowledge.

Windows software isn't an option.

[Judo]

You shouldn't expect it too soon. Only two movies have been ripped so far following their process, to my knowledge. Even if they manage to perfect BD+ decryption, there's still the other encryptions to worry about. AES is something they still have problems with and AACS is set to be updated soon, iirc. The other hurdles, like UDF and decoders for the formats used on the discs, are pretty much done with, though.

Plus, once you have the 1080p video on your computer, there's no guarantee you have the system resources to play it. 1080p h.264 (high profile) won't play on my Athlon 64 3200+, let alone 720p and very, very few drivers can do hardware decoding on Linux.

[mips]

Plus, once you have the 1080p video on your computer, there's no guarantee you have the system resources to play it. 1080p h.264 (high profile) won't play on my Athlon 64 3200+, let alone 720p and very, very few drivers can do hardware decoding on Linux.

I suspect most people will just convert it to another format.

[handy]

Doom9.net The Definitive DVD Backup Resource (http://www.doom9.org/): Is a great place for those interested in this kind of subject.

[billgoldberg]

You shouldn't expect it too soon. Only two movies have been ripped so far following their process, to my knowledge. Even if they manage to perfect BD+ decryption, there's still the other encryptions to worry about. AES is something they still have problems with and AACS is set to be updated soon, iirc. The other hurdles, like UDF and decoders for the formats used on the discs, are pretty much done with, though.

Plus, once you have the 1080p video on your computer, there's no guarantee you have the system resources to play it. 1080p h.264 (high profile) won't play on my Athlon 64 3200+, let alone 720p and very, very few drivers can do hardware decoding on Linux.

720p plays well on Linux using my on-board ATI radeon Xpress 200.

Don't know about 1080p.

[MaxIBoy]

I know my laptop's Intel chipset sort of whimpers and cries when I try to play 1080p video.

[handy]

I just installed Slysoft's AnyDVD HD, on Arch via Wine, which went well, but it throws up an error to do with the optical drive. Which I kind of expected.

It was worth a try.

[Fatboy Snarky]

Originally Posted by Judo
Plus, once you have the 1080p video on your computer, there's no guarantee you have the system resources to play it. 1080p h.264 (high profile) won't play on my Athlon 64 3200+, let alone 720p and very, very few drivers can do hardware decoding on Linux.

No problem here playing 1080p25/1080p30 on an Athlon64 4800+.

Have you tried compiling a recent MPlayer version (svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk)?

I'm usig the NVidia binary-only graphics driver, but it only offers the XV video output; no further hardware acceleration necessary.

[mips]

Where does one get good 1080p sample videos to test with?

[Judo]

No problem here playing 1080p25/1080p30 on an Athlon64 4800+.

Have you tried compiling a recent MPlayer version (svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk)?

I'm usig the NVidia binary-only graphics driver, but it only offers the XV video output; no further hardware acceleration necessary.
I've done all that I can, but there is no hope for this machine. My 7800 GT may be helping through XvMC, but if it is, it's not helping much. My machine, however, can play 1080p h.264 at main profile, but you won't see that outside of Apple's players.

I've been told that the majority of Core 2's on the market now can play any 1080p video, but I haven't tested that myself.

I guess you could say that a computer new enough to have a BD drive is also powerful enough to decode it, but there's no guarantee.

On a related note, I've done a lot of research related to drivers and accelerated playback which has brought me to the conclusion that no ATI/AMD, NVIDIA, or Intel GPU can do h.264 or VC-1 hardware decoding through X. They are only programmed to do it through DXVA. (DirectX Video Acceleration, obviously Windows-only)

[billgoldberg]

Where does one get good 1080p sample videos to test with?

Download a HD music video from a torrent site.

[mips]

Download a HD music video from a torrent site.

I'm sure you mean a legit one, just to clarify.

[Rhubarb]

Just grab Big Buck Bunny here:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

It's free, you can grab the hi-def format, and shows you just what blender can really do :D

[Judo]

Just grab Big Buck Bunny here:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

It's free, you can grab the hi-def format, and shows you just what blender can really do :D
Terrific film, but not a very good test. That's the Quicktime version which doesn't use all of h.264's compression techniques. Long story short, it requires significantly less processing power to play in comparison to a BD movie.

[mips]

Just grab Big Buck Bunny here:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

It's free, you can grab the hi-def format, and shows you just what blender can really do :D

Someting smaller would suite me better. I have a 3GB cap and 700MB is a big chunk of that. 50-100MB would be cool though.

[Polygon]

i have a bluray rip of a movie, i have no idea if its 1080 p though/.. I can check and then extract a 10 second clip of it and upload it somewhere for you

[billgoldberg]

I'm sure you mean a legit one, just to clarify.

Sure I did.

:p

[mips]

i have a bluray rip of a movie, i have no idea if its 1080 p though/.. I can check and then extract a 10 second clip of it and upload it somewhere for you

Thanks, but I have found something in the meantime but have not downloaded it yet.

[davex1990]

you can just hook up your blu ray player to a capture card and go from there
http://www.pchdtv.com/ <<< linux compatable capture cards
you can then install MythTV
http://www.mythtv.org/

[Sub101]

Where does one get good 1080p sample videos to test with?

Also BBC Iplayer allows you to watch programs in HD. Might not be exactly what you are looking for. Nevertheless it works without errors.