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wolfen69
October 30th, 2008, 06:40 PM
i dislike it thoroughly. i think 8.6h was the best one so far. i see no advantage in the 9.0 series. your thoughts?

hellmet
October 30th, 2008, 06:43 PM
I hate the one for Windows. The one for Linux seems to act sane enough.

SomeGuyDude
October 30th, 2008, 06:48 PM
I'm not sure why they decided to go for QT, and I don't like the two-window system (it's dumb for GIMP, it's dumb here), but otherwise it's solid. Doesn't crash, so that's a bonus.

ashmew2
October 30th, 2008, 06:50 PM
9.x >>>>> 8.x ...They even added the "Disable Multiple Instances" ...I had to use a home made script for doing that in 8.x ...Plus Using Qt it is far more customizable ...

kneewax
October 30th, 2008, 07:01 PM
I like it! I just wish it didn't run when I try to open the $home folder... instead of the folder opening

ghindo
October 30th, 2008, 07:59 PM
What's there to hate?

wolfen69
October 30th, 2008, 08:03 PM
What's there to hate?

there is no more pvr tab when i open capture device, no volume control that i could see, don't like the look...

klange
October 30th, 2008, 08:09 PM
there is no more pvr tab when i open capture device, no volume control that i could see, don't like the look...

No volume control? What VLC are you using? They even made a custom QT widget for it (which is enabled by default).

Polygon
October 30th, 2008, 08:11 PM
i dislike it thoroughly. i think 8.6h was the best one so far. i see no advantage in the 9.0 series. your thoughts?

yeah, all of these bugs fixed (http://wiki.videolan.org/Next_changes#Changes_between_0.8.6_and_0.9.0) don't matter at all.

install qgtkstyle if you would like it to look better.


I'm not sure why they decided to go for QT, and I don't like the two-window system (it's dumb for GIMP, it's dumb here), but otherwise it's solid. Doesn't crash, so that's a bonus.

the two window system is a bug. Its supposed to be attacked to the same window as the controls

nrs
October 30th, 2008, 08:23 PM
I'm not sure why they decided to go for QT wxWidgets sucks hard. The only (competitive) alternatives are Qt and GTK+, while GTK+ is a good toolkit it stands out like a sore thumb on non-native platforms, the reliabity of different ports is inconsisent, etc.

Polygon
October 30th, 2008, 08:25 PM
also, i hear that QT is better cuase it runs better on windows and mac. gtk on windows has ALWAYS given me problems. and qt on windows can use the windows toolkit so it blends in, unlike gtk

pirattrev
October 31st, 2008, 01:11 AM
qt? AHH!! THE PAIN!!!! I thoroughly dislike almost everything about the qt system. GTK is fine, why can't it just use that? Also, I don't know about 8 vs 9, as long as they fix the annoying bug where if I fiddle with the EQ it randomly quits I'm fine. Nothing is a bigger bummer than when you're halfway through a movie and you decide that the highend whine is annoying, you go to change it and BAM!, goodbye VLC, no warning message or anything

handy
October 31st, 2008, 01:31 AM
QT has complicated license arrangements:

Qt is available under a dual license, the GPL v2 or v3 with special exception[8] and a proprietary commercial license on all supported platforms. The commercial license allows the final application to be licensed under various free software/open source licenses such as the LGPL or the Artistic License, or a proprietary software license.

cardinals_fan
October 31st, 2008, 01:33 AM
QT has complicated license arrangements:

Qt is available under a dual license, the GPL v2 or v3 with special exception[8] and a proprietary commercial license on all supported platforms. The commercial license allows the final application to be licensed under various free software/open source licenses such as the LGPL or the Artistic License, or a proprietary software license.
I personally think their license is one of the smartest things I've ever seen, but maybe I'm crazy.

Saint Angeles
October 31st, 2008, 01:36 AM
does anybody else notice that the video quality in VLC is terrible compared to xine?

and when i use gstreamer, i always get weird random coloring and blocking issues. but for some reason, the xine in ibex, i cant seem to get audio working. so i'm using standard totem. its very simple to use and works great.

timroberts
October 31st, 2008, 01:39 AM
I can't get vlc to install. it keeps telling me a whole whack of libraries aren't installable. whatever that means. any suggestions?

samjh
October 31st, 2008, 01:46 AM
9 > 8

I love the new VLC. Nice interface, lots of fixed bugs. :)

As for Qt, it's no worse than GTK+, so I don't see a big deal with it. The VLC developers chose Qt because it was easier to do what they wanted with Qt than with wxWidgets (presumably they assessed GTK+ as well).


I can't get vlc to install. it keeps telling me a whole whack of libraries aren't installable. whatever that means. any suggestions?

Copy-paste the error message please.

blatestblabla
October 31st, 2008, 02:31 AM
It's so much better it's ridiculous. They've finally incorporated an on-screen-display, which brings the player into the modern world. They've also incorporated a simpler config panel for people who don't need all the advanced options - makes things less imposing. Not particularly concerned about the GUI changes.

FuturePilot
October 31st, 2008, 02:35 AM
I love it. And if you don't like the look try Qgtkstyle, then you can barely tell it's not GTK.

Amazona aestiva
October 31st, 2008, 02:36 AM
I can't get vlc to install. it keeps telling me a whole whack of libraries aren't installable. whatever that means. any suggestions?

It's because of the servers are overloaded due to the new release. Some folks have similar problems. Wait a few days then try it again.

Regards

doorknob60
October 31st, 2008, 02:38 AM
I like it a lot better, epecially the new QT interface, I think it looks nicer in both KDE4 as well as GTK environments (with qgtkstyle). I just find that it works better and looks better, why all the hate?

Dr Small
October 31st, 2008, 02:38 AM
Version 0.9.*?
It has it's annoying quirks, but I like it:
http://php.8ez.com/drsmall/blog/?p=287

RiceMonster
October 31st, 2008, 02:39 AM
I tried it for a bit, then went back to using GNOME-MPlayer. I never particularly liked VLC. There's a lot of stuff about it that seems to bug me.

klange
October 31st, 2008, 02:51 AM
I tried it for a bit, then went back to using GNOME-MPlayer. I never particularly liked VLC. There's a lot of stuff about it that seems to bug me.

The main reason why VLC gets a lot of hype is because it tends to "just work" with stuff that you'd normally have to go through longer processes with for other media players. DVDs are the best example - want to play in a DVD in Some Random Media Player for Linux? You need to install Restricted Plugins for Media Backend Y. Then you're stuck with broken menus and the wrong subtitles. VLC just plain works with DVDs: Pop it in and hit play, you'll get menus and everything.

Personally, I love it. Just wish I could change the icon set a little more easily. So many non-transparent icons...

OutOfReach
October 31st, 2008, 03:01 AM
I like the new VLC.
From a developer point of view, I can understand why they choose Qt over GTK because of the ease of coding, it is a lot more straightforward than GTK.

The next best thing to VLC is Totem. But I can't install Totem without installing the whole GNOME desktop. :(

Dr Small
October 31st, 2008, 03:12 AM
I like the new VLC.
From a developer point of view, I can understand why they choose Qt over GTK because of the ease of coding, it is a lot more straightforward than GTK.

The next best thing to VLC is Totem. But I can't install Totem without installing the whole GNOME desktop. :(
I absolutely hate totem...

OutOfReach
October 31st, 2008, 03:22 AM
I absolutely hate totem...

I don't mean to turn this into a totem discussion but...
That's what I don't understand, why does everybody hate Totem? I like it.

Polygon
October 31st, 2008, 03:24 AM
totem for me half the time doesn't play videos right, while every other movie player out there does. Not to mention i just dont like its interface.

Saint Angeles
October 31st, 2008, 03:27 AM
totem for me half the time doesn't play videos right, while every other movie player out there does. Not to mention i just dont like its interface.

oh yeah?! well... maybe IT doesn't like YOUR interface!!

do YOU play videos right?! NO?? i didn't think so!!

so think about THAT suckah...

[/joking]

handy
October 31st, 2008, 03:57 AM
I personally think their license is one of the smartest things I've ever seen, but maybe I'm crazy.

I heard somewhere that they altered it recently. Do you know in what way?

samjh
October 31st, 2008, 04:21 AM
I heard somewhere that they altered it recently. Do you know in what way?
Lately they've included GPLv3 for the open-source release, and added some "exceptions" (ie. GPL-incompatible licenses you can release your software under): Artistic, MIT, Python, and ZLib Licenses.

Qt Licensing in brief: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/editions.html
Qt Open Source edition: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/opensourceedition.html
Qt Open Source license exceptions: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/license-gpl-exceptions.html
Additional exceptions: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/licenses-gpl-exceptions-addendum.html


QT has complicated license arrangements:

Qt is available under a dual license, the GPL v2 or v3 with special exception[8] and a proprietary commercial license on all supported platforms. The commercial license allows the final application to be licensed under various free software/open source licenses such as the LGPL or the Artistic License, or a proprietary software license.
Qt licensing is a heck of a lot simpler than most EULA. ;)

You can use Qt Open Source Edition as long as your software developed with Qt Open Source Edition is released under:

GNU Public License 2
GNU Public License 3

OR

Academic Free License 2.0, 2.1, 3.0
Apache Software License 1.0 or 1.1
Apache License 2.0
Apple Public Source License 2.0
Artistic license
BSD license "July 22 1999"
Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) 1.0
Common Public License 1.0
Eclipse Public License 1.0
GNU Library or "Lesser" General Public License (LGPL) 2.0, 2.1, 3.0
Jabber Open Source License 1.0
MIT License
Mozilla Public License (MPL) 1.0 or 1.1
Open Software License 2.0, 3.0
OpenSSL license (with original SSLeay license) "2003" ("1998")
PHP License 3.0
Python license (CNRI Python License)
Python Software Foundation License 2.1.1
Q Public License 1.0
Sleepycat License "1999"
W3C License "2001"
X11 License X11R6.6
Zlib/libpng License
Zope Public License 2.0, 2.1

If your software isn't released under one of those licenses, you will need to use the Commercial Edition.

Obviously it would be wise to check with Trolltech (or Qt Software, as they are now known) if you are unsure. :)

blatestblabla
October 31st, 2008, 04:27 AM
Someone asked what the hate for Totem. I'll tell you why - it lacks functionality. You can't change the aspect ratio of a video if that video wasn't correctly encoded with the correct ratio (happens enough times to be useful). You can't delay the audio from the video if you find a video that is out-of-sync (happens from time to time). There isn't enough control over the playback from the keyboard, etc.

Of course, not everyone needs those features, but it's only when you find the advantages of a powerful media player that you realise how much better and more comfortable your media can become.

handy
October 31st, 2008, 04:51 AM
@samjh: Thanks for educating me on the topic. :)

perfectska04@hotmail.com
October 31st, 2008, 05:11 AM
I personally switched to Gnome-Mplayer as soon as VLC became a Qt app. It's not that I hate Qt apps, but I hate it when one of my most used applications lacks visual integration with my desktop environment.

Besides, Gnome-Mplayer is not a second choice player, it's one of the best ones around (specially when used with gecko-mediaplayer and mplayer-video-thumbnailer).

etnlIcarus
October 31st, 2008, 05:29 AM
The ironic thing about this thread is VLC 0.9.x + QGTKStyle actually fits in better on your GTK+ desktop than the old wxwidgets toolkit did.

Pros:
- Lots of bugfixes and support for more codecs.
- The new UI, regardless of the toolkit used, is far improved. Sane button and menu layout is a major plus.
- Fits in well regardless of your OS or DE.

Cons:
- File-picker seems alien if you mostly use a GTK+ environment.
- You've got to install a fair few extra libs.
- Building Qgtkstyle requires rudamentary compilation skills (will become a non-issue as soon as an updated PPA becomes available).

Seriously, aside from some minor font rendering differences, you can't tell the difference:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8691/vlcdz6.png
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2906/vlc2ya2.png


Also, those people saying mplayer is a replacement for VLC, clearly don't watch many videos with subtitles.

SomeGuyDude
October 31st, 2008, 05:38 AM
I personally switched to Gnome-Mplayer as soon as VLC became a Qt app. It's not that I hate Qt apps, but I hate it when one of my most used applications lacks visual integration with my desktop environment.

Besides, Gnome-Mplayer is not a second choice player, it's one of the best ones around (specially when used with gecko-mediaplayer and mplayer-video-thumbnailer).

Hot biscuits, I'd never heard of that (which is stupid of me, you'd think I'd be aware of such a basic app). Definitely my default for video now. Thanks! :guitar:

perfectska04@hotmail.com
October 31st, 2008, 05:45 AM
Also, those people saying mplayer is a replacement for VLC, clearly don't watch many videos with subtitles.

Wait, what? Mplayer was the only option for soft-coded subtitles on linux until VLC 0.9 was released. VLC has always been known and mocked for its (broken) subtitle rendering until just recently and even taking 0.9+ into account, MPlayer/SMPlayer/Gnome-Mplayer still hold the crown for subtitle rendering. Nowadays, MPlayer is a great replacement for VLC and viceversa. It just depents on which looks most intuitive and appealing to you.

eternalnewbee
October 31st, 2008, 05:48 AM
I think it's refreshing.

perfectska04@hotmail.com
October 31st, 2008, 05:49 AM
Hot biscuits, I'd never heard of that (which is stupid of me, you'd think I'd be aware of such a basic app). Definitely my default for video now. Thanks! :guitar:

No problem. I recommend building the latest version from source or using the following repo in intrepid (since intrepid has an older version):
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/norsetto/ubuntu intrepid main

Gnome-Mplayer is one of those projects that evolves very rapidly, so each new version brings many, many improvements and it is worth keeping up to date.

etnlIcarus
October 31st, 2008, 05:51 AM
Well my expereince with getting mplayer to correctly display subtitles has been less than elegant, as you've described. When it's come to both audio and subtitle configuration, VLC and gstreamer have both trumped mplayer, while xine's been absolutely useless.

Edit: Just checked them again now, since these should be updated versions. On my .ogms, mplayer couldn't detect the second audio channel - totem-gstreamer and VLC 0.9 had no problem and on my .mkvs, mplayer refused to pick up on any of the subtitles, while I had no problem with the other two players. The worst thing I could say about VLC is it still can't tell me what the audio channels are, though it has no problem in allowing me to switch between them.

perfectska04@hotmail.com
October 31st, 2008, 05:55 AM
Well my expereince with getting mplayer to correctly display subtitles has been less than elegant, as you've described. When it's come to both audio and subtitle configuration, VLC and gstreamer have both trumped mplayer, while xine's been absolutely useless.

I guess if you're using the gmplayer provided by Ubuntu's repos you may have to do some tweaking for optimal rendering. In my case, I usually compiled from source or used Gnome-Mplayer (of which the latest versions support beautiful subtitle styling). Then again, arguing about subtitles is pointless now that both players have stepped up their game.

etnlIcarus
October 31st, 2008, 06:01 AM
I edited my post on the last page, FTR.

wolfen69
October 31st, 2008, 06:09 AM
totem for me half the time doesn't play videos right, while every other movie player out there does. Not to mention i just dont like its interface.

+1

Saint Angeles
October 31st, 2008, 06:21 AM
Someone asked what the hate for Totem. I'll tell you why - it lacks functionality. You can't change the aspect ratio of a video if that video wasn't correctly encoded with the correct ratio (happens enough times to be useful)...
yes you can

etnlIcarus
October 31st, 2008, 06:39 AM
Yeah, you can change aspect ratio easily enough. You just can't crop video.

LookTJ
October 31st, 2008, 07:09 AM
The 8.6 series was issues for me. VLC couldn't play FLAC properly, but the 9 series does.
I don't care about the look of the GUI as long as it is simple and just works.

blatestblabla
October 31st, 2008, 07:19 AM
yes you can
Ah hell, you're right. I humbly admit to being in error. :)

But I still prefer VLC! :guitar:

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 06:40 AM
Ah hell, you're right. I humbly admit to being in error. :)

But I still prefer VLC! :guitar:
and i admit VLC has WAAAYYY more features than totem... but...

VLC has always given me slightly less quality on the videos i watch... like, its very pixely

Polygon
November 1st, 2008, 06:43 AM
are you sure the video is set to 1:1 zoom?

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 06:44 AM
are you sure the video is set to 1:1 zoom?
me? well yeah of course!

its been like this for as long as i can remember though.

on every computer... even on windows. i think it has to do with the codecs that VLC uses

Polygon
November 1st, 2008, 06:58 AM
the codecs vlc uses are the same that most other video players use.

I tried playing a music video and a teaser for some 3d program in both vlc and ubuntu. They pretty much look the same to me

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8076/screenshot3cz4.th.png (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3cz4.png)http://img375.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)


and the teaser (video lagged horribly in totem, played perfectly fine in vlc)

vlc: http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3097/screenshot4ri6.th.png (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4ri6.png)http://img375.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

totem: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4722/screenshot5in5.th.png (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5in5.png)http://img265.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 07:59 AM
hmm... maybe i'll give vlc another shot!

etnlIcarus
November 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM
If you do give VLC a second shot, make sure you try a couple of the output modules. If video is choppy or grainy, try switching between XVideo or OpenGL.

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 08:55 AM
ok so i just tried it out... video quality is great! so is the audio!

but...

its obviously a KDE app and looks like crap with my current gnome setup. with the odler versions, i put my skins in ~/.vlc/skins2 and could select between skins super easily. now, i have to "select skin" then use a terrible looking file browser... and thats EVERYTIME i wanna change the skin?

plus most of the skins look like crap... its funny how the highest rated skins are the ugly WMP11 skins.

yeah i'll stick with totem... it looks great, opens quick, and just integrates well with my desktop. I can push "h" and it removes the menubar and progress bar and all that so its just the video. then i can use alt+middle click to resize.

samjh
November 1st, 2008, 09:53 AM
VLC is not a KDE app. It's cross-platform. Qt does not equal KDE in any shape or form. Opera, Adobe Acrobat, and Google Earth all use Qt, but they're not KDE apps.

Install qt4-qtconfig and you can set the default look-and-feel for all Qt4 applications. If you don't like the program, you can just install it, select the look-and-feel and remove the program; the setting will be retained. I'm amazed that Ubuntu doesn't install it - or at least set the look-and-feel to Cleanlooks - by default.

As for skins, just how often do you want to change the skin? And "ugly" is very subjective: your taste is probably just different from the majority.

I also don't understand why the file browser is "terrible looking". What's so terrible about it? I've put a screenshot of the VLC file browser below. It doesn't look much different from the Gnome file browser.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6339/screenshotselectfilegm6.png (http://imageshack.us)

Chame_Wizard
November 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM
VLC is not a KDE app. It's cross-platform. Qt does not equal KDE in any shape or form. Opera, Adobe Acrobat, and Google Earth all use Qt, but they're not KDE apps.

Install qt4-qtconfig and you can set the default look-and-feel for all Qt4 applications. If you don't like the program, you can just install it, select the look-and-feel and remove the program; the setting will be retained. I'm amazed that Ubuntu doesn't install it - or at least set the look-and-feel to Cleanlooks - by default.

As for skins, just how often do you want to change the skin? And "ugly" is very subjective: your taste is probably just different from the majority.

I also don't understand why the file browser is "terrible looking". What's so terrible about it? I've put a screenshot of the VLC file browser below. It doesn't look much different from the Gnome file browser.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6339/screenshotselectfilegm6.png (http://imageshack.us)

this is good:guitar:

daverich
November 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM
well I dont like it because now it doesn't show any video.

Mplayer works though.

Kind regards

Dave Rich

etnlIcarus
November 1st, 2008, 11:16 AM
It doesn't look much different from the Gnome file browser It is alien when you come from using the GTK file-picker dialogue. Of all the crap in this thread, the file picker is one of the few valid criticisms levied against VLC 0.9.x

Beyond the mere look of it, it' also functionally different: No gtk-bookmarks; no path-bar; no path entry-field.


well I dont like it because now it doesn't show any video I'm quite positive, if you're not getting any video output, you can fix that.

tom66
November 1st, 2008, 11:36 AM
I kinda like it. Easier to use.

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 11:42 AM
It is alien when you come from using the GTK file-picker dialogue. Of all the crap in this thread, the file picker is one of the few valid criticisms levied against VLC 0.9.x

Beyond the mere look of it, it' also functionally different: No gtk-bookmarks; no path-bar; no path entry-field...

yeah... i was trying to get a screenshot of it but for some reason, now VLC only opens with 2 instances of it and nothing i click on works. also, when i close it, the windows are still in the window list as 2 seperate programs and i have to right click->close to get them to shut off. i think its because theres some vlc processes running... but i cant shut them down with system monitor.

so once i fix this, i'll take a screenshot of how ugly my file picker looks.

Saint Angeles
November 1st, 2008, 11:47 AM
VLC is not a KDE app. It's cross-platform. Qt does not equal KDE in any shape or form. Opera, Adobe Acrobat, and Google Earth all use Qt, but they're not KDE apps...
well GNOME uses GTK and KDE uses qt... right?

so when a prgram like Skype and VLC use qt, they might look great on KDE, but they dont look good with gnome.

this is why i said "kde app" because i meant that it would look better on KDE instead of GNOME. I use Skype all the time... but it looks like crap because I use GNOME. i know its "cross platform" because i'm able to use it and it works well... but because it was designed with qt, what KDE uses, i'm still gonna call it a KDE app.

billgoldberg
November 1st, 2008, 11:54 AM
well GNOME uses GTK and KDE uses qt... right?

so when a prgram like Skype and VLC use qt, they might look great on KDE, but they dont look good with gnome.

this is why i said "kde app" because i meant that it would look better on KDE instead of GNOME. I use Skype all the time... but it looks like crap because I use GNOME. i know its "cross platform" because i'm able to use it and it works well... but because it was designed with qt, what KDE uses, i'm still gonna call it a KDE app.

There is a little trick to make your qt apps blend better with gnome, but the name slip my name.

I believe the app is called gtk-qt.

Either way, I'm not thrilled they used qt as I prefer not to use qt apps.

Together with pokerth, it's the only qt app I have installed.

But I don't even use vlc anymore, Totem seems to work better than vlc.

The new version doesn't seem like the swiss army knife of media players anymore.

etnlIcarus
November 1st, 2008, 11:58 AM
There is a little trick to make your qt apps blend better with gnome, but the name slip my name.

I believe the app is called gtk-qt.

No, qgtkstyle.


The ironic thing about this thread is VLC 0.9.x + QGTKStyle actually fits in better on your GTK+ desktop than the old wxwidgets toolkit did.

Pros:
- Lots of bugfixes and support for more codecs.
- The new UI, regardless of the toolkit used, is far improved. Sane button and menu layout is a major plus.
- Fits in well regardless of your OS or DE.

Cons:
- File-picker seems alien if you mostly use a GTK+ environment.
- You've got to install a fair few extra libs.
- Building Qgtkstyle requires rudamentary compilation skills (will become a non-issue as soon as an updated PPA becomes available).

Seriously, aside from some minor font rendering differences, you can't tell the difference:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8691/vlcdz6.png
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2906/vlc2ya2.png


Also, those people saying mplayer is a replacement for VLC, clearly don't watch many videos with subtitles.

billgoldberg
November 1st, 2008, 12:13 PM
No, qgtkstyle.

Well yeah, thanks for reminding me.

Bluekkis
November 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM
No more VLC for me =(
I keep my system clean of Qt.

lzfy
November 1st, 2008, 01:41 PM
What's the big deal with GT or GTK? On Windows no one cares what toolkit is used but when it comes to Linux it suddenly becomes a holy war :confused:

I personally use KDE but I also use many GTK apps. They all look great and work great.

awakatanka
November 1st, 2008, 02:04 PM
The funny thing is when it used wxWidget nobody cared that it wasn't GTK, now it use Qt They suddenly do.

Love VLC work prefect for me Mplayer always gives me a error but plays the video.

rudihawk
November 1st, 2008, 02:34 PM
I love VLC :)
I didn't like the look of the new version but I used qgtkstyle to change it :). Now it looks fantastic.

Zoulpain
November 1st, 2008, 02:45 PM
I like the new one, i did not like the old one.

billgoldberg
November 1st, 2008, 03:02 PM
The funny thing is when it used wxWidget nobody cared that it wasn't GTK, now it use Qt They suddenly do.

Love VLC work prefect for me Mplayer always gives me a error but plays the video.

That's was because most people didn't realise it or because it looked good in gnome.

etnlIcarus
November 1st, 2008, 03:27 PM
It never looked, "good", full-stop. Looked like absolute a*se with dark themes.

Polygon
November 1st, 2008, 03:44 PM
omg! a kilobytes of libraries tainting my pure system! :roll:

its just like libqt and a few other ones, you don't even need to install all the KDE ones.

anyway....

i heard somewhere that they are going to make it so you can use the gtk file picker dialog....dunno if its true though.