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Sealbhach
October 15th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Does this seem a bit bloated to you?

http://www.mandriva.com/en/product/mandriva-linux-powerpack

You have to pay for it as well and there are "activation keys".


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SunnyRabbiera
October 15th, 2008, 12:34 AM
Well I know mandriva has deals with some companies to provide things like "legal" codecs and dvd playback.
But bloated?
Not any more bloated as Ubuntu can be for some people.
But Mandriva does offer a free version and a open source version so they stay within the code of the GPL.

67GTA
October 15th, 2008, 12:57 AM
It also includes Cedega which is not freeware, and professional support. In the past they have also included the commercial version of VMWare, but not sure about 2009. The activation keys are given to you after you buy powerpack so you can't pirate it.

Antman
October 15th, 2008, 01:02 AM
Does this seem a bit bloated to you?

http://www.mandriva.com/en/product/mandriva-linux-powerpack

You have to pay for it as well and there are "activation keys".


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You can use the 'Free' DVD install version, the livecd 'One' version, or choose to pay for the powerpack version (has legal codecs and such).

Oh... there are no Microsoft type 'keys' needed to activate the powerpack version.

67GTA
October 15th, 2008, 01:19 AM
Antman is correct. They will give you a key(for powerpack) to type in and activate here: https://my.mandriva.com/register/key/ It is not the same as Microsoft activation.

SunnyRabbiera
October 15th, 2008, 03:25 AM
Antman is correct. They will give you a key(for powerpack) to type in and activate here: https://my.mandriva.com/register/key/ It is not the same as Microsoft activation.

Thats why I like Mandriva, the policies they have are more fair then most

cardinals_fan
October 15th, 2008, 03:42 AM
Thats why I like Mandriva, the policies they have are more fair then most
They are now. Back when they first introduced Mandriva Club, things were a bit different. If you search around, you can probably find some of the horror stories about Mandriva's customer support back then.

SunnyRabbiera
October 15th, 2008, 03:43 AM
They are now. Back when they first introduced Mandriva Club, things were a bit different. If you search around, you can probably find some of the horror stories about Mandriva's customer support back then.

yeh the mandriva club was a big mistake, thats why they dumped it.

Antman
October 15th, 2008, 02:44 PM
They are now. Back when they first introduced Mandriva Club, things were a bit different. If you search around, you can probably find some of the horror stories about Mandriva's customer support back then.
+1
Luckily they changed for the better. They still need to make the PWP version a little more interesting though... I just let my subscription expire since I just don't see the need in it anymore. Maybe if they offer a LiveUSB creation tool for PWP members and more commerical apps (instead of trials) I may buy one again.

karellen
October 16th, 2008, 09:50 AM
Does this seem a bit bloated to you?

http://www.mandriva.com/en/product/mandriva-linux-powerpack

You have to pay for it as well and there are "activation keys".


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no. Mandriva is a great distro. they offer the live cd, the free dvd and the powepack version(which costs money). you're free to choose what you want, just download the free version and don't complain

K.Mandla
October 16th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Moved to Mandriva subforum.

AdamWill
October 16th, 2008, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the good replies, guys. Just to make it official: yes, you don't need any kind of activation key to use Powerpack. You get a product code in the box which you can choose to enter at my.mandriva.com to activate your online support, but the product works fine if you never touch it.

You don't have to buy Powerpack to use MDV, of course - just get Free or One. The only software exclusive to Powerpack is commercial packages: that is, packages we have to pay to get a license to distribute, and which we're only allowed to distribute to paying customers. We couldn't include those things in public repos, and neither can any other distro.

To be frank the exclusive stuff in 2009 PWP is pretty thin: basically, it's just the Fluendo codecs subset (you don't get the entire pack, as some bits of it cost a lot to sub-license). Cedega is now a trial version and LinDVD still isn't back yet, thanks to ongoing legal issues. There are other packages but they're mostly things you can get free from the authors anyway (like Opera, or RealPlayer - you don't have to pay for these, but their licenses don't allow unlimited public redistribution by third parties, so we can't have them in our public repos).

We are working on a better set of commercial apps for 2009 Spring, though I can't give any details as these kinds of deals are pretty sensitive and often don't work out, which is why the provided software tends to change from one PWP release to the next.

Of course, buying Powerpack also gets you a nice shiny box (...if you buy the box version), printed manual, a month (or three months, I forget...) of support, and a warm fuzzy feeling inside that comes from helping to ensure I can eat :)

Antman
October 16th, 2008, 11:06 PM
and a warm fuzzy feeling inside that comes from helping to ensure I can eat :):lolflag: