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Dr Small
September 20th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Tell me your thoughts on this. Take a look at the attached image, and tell me if it is altered or not.

Steveway
September 20th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Well the proportions between the house and the rest are out of place and the shadows don't match. That is clearly gimp'd.

SunnyRabbiera
September 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Its one of Chuck Norris' summer homes, so I am not surprised ;)

init1
September 20th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah, looks as though it's been shop'd.

Dr Small
September 20th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Well, the reason I asked, is because this picture made the CNN headlines, according to my Mom. She saw it, thought it looked stranged, and saved it. I still have the original URL, too:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/t1home.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg

Kinda strange, eh?

Swarms
September 20th, 2008, 04:41 PM
It is real, the explaination was that the owners old house went with a hurricane, so they decided to build another one that was very resistant. And it worked. :o

Dr Small
September 20th, 2008, 04:43 PM
It is real, the explaination was that the owners old house went with a hurricane, so they decided to build another one that was very resistant. And it worked. :o
But the house in the picture looks out of proportion and looks like it doesn't belong there.

Bölvağur
September 20th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Also I would assume the 3d of the house would be different. The house looks like it is from a picture where it was taken from different angle than on the gimped version.

Kingsley
September 20th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Do a quick search, and you'll find a video of the house. It didn't get smashed in the hurricane, but the interior is totally ****ed.

kef_kf
September 20th, 2008, 08:03 PM
i have seen this one on the big picture (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html) so ill assume its real. they made a post about hurricane ike and this was one of the many tragic photographs of destruction it caused.
here is a larger resolution one:

Dr Small
September 20th, 2008, 08:13 PM
i have seen this one on the big picture (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html) so ill assume its real. they made a post about hurricane ike and this was one of the many tragic photographs of destruction it caused.
here is a larger resolution one:
I still think it looks fake. You mean to tell me, that out of the 100MPH winds that blew debris around, that the siding, shingles and windows are still in perfect condition, when everything else around it looks like a nuclear bomb went off?

kef_kf
September 20th, 2008, 08:40 PM
All i' m saying is being featured on in the blog of a respectable newspaper is good enough for me.
You can check the other photographs David J. Phillip took in Gilchrist, TX (and in other parts of texas) on the getty images website and decide for yourself.
if you are still skeptical you can always go to texas to see the destruction with your own eyes but judging from the images i wouldnt recommend it.

(i made a link (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?src=breadcrumb&query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAO29B2AcSZYlJi9tynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2d vPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91etf49f4NX6PX_dskV3kvyb9-pj-_5s9zS6LWfqdcfpyXpRlsfo1R_hq42Ma_JpJXVXty6zOFs2vpZ _h56-1u4NffzP8k9D_f713r6-b03fm1V_T-5tfyc7Nr7-m_g4ov3Z2PrWomD_w_18bP3e4o0Xr3nS__zrUuLRf2L_w3q9Lf 9QLCzb889dH81389evx5xMLo_M3v3YeQrF_MpQdC-W8A8X9za_VIRT7J0PZs1DqDhT3N1EmNy_9mvjj19Y_mEy7-O03NG1_Y_M50SRfmU9_zeCvXyt3XXm__1p5431sf_-1m5V989fEHwaV38q-eDl1L7rff52q9jjC_sVfTXL_K_MXnl97drU0v_-a5o9fB_9v1hOHYPDXr51nDgP_D_p95X9h__h1mwBa-Oev_e7Zc0dv-sN-kdUebt4fv1EzrVb5k_VyVnpEDD41AH8ccB7s3Eer_wecFiiLsg MAAA..&bci=0) for you.)

Whiffle
September 20th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Not fake, and there is another one from another angle. Its also not in perfect condition, there are shingles missing and I'm pretty sure some of the windows are gone.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/index.html



Check out some of the other damage:

http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/hurricanes/ike/photo-comparisons/bolivar.html

jflaker
September 20th, 2008, 09:03 PM
We stayed in Hatteras Island in North Carolina. I was there one time earlier in another area of the Outer Banks and I watched some construction taking place.

The homes are build on 8x8 or for the more paranoid, 12x12 pilings sunk anywhere between 12 feet and 25 feet (depending on how paranoid) into the sand.

The lowest level is called a blowout level where the walls will easily blow out with a tidal surge allowing the home to stand on stilts between 18 and 22 feet (depending on when built) above grade.

It looks like the lower level blew out minimizing structural damage. It is not to say that the windows and openings of the home would be able to sustain in the face of a major storm such as IKE.

Either way, if built to code and the vertical posts were of sufficient strenght.....That home would stand.

I don't think it is shopped, I think the owner built it above code which allowed it to stand against the storm.....Also, as for proportions being odd......If it was a seasonal rental, the home would likely be above 3500 square feet and with that, the proportions look correct.

search images of the Outer Banks and you will see the home is approximately the same size.
http://www.valuevacationrentals.com/images/memb4000/prop6347_28123.jpg
http://www.valuevacationrentals.com/images/memb4000/prop6371_28365.jpg

Lucky few have had their home survive only to be redeemed by A 1959 law known as the Texas Open Beaches Act. Under the law, the strip of beach between the average high-tide line and the average low-tide line is considered public property, and it is illegal to build (or in this case, rebuild) anything there.

SomeGuyDude
September 20th, 2008, 09:16 PM
You people are unbelievable. I love the "it's fake" brigade that calls everything a shop, citing all this "evidence", and then it turns out it's real.

Keyper7
September 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM
You people are unbelievable. I love the "it's fake" brigade that calls everything a shop, citing all this "evidence", and then it turns out it's real.

Don't criticize other people's hobbies (http://xkcd.com/331/), it's rude.

paul101
September 20th, 2008, 11:31 PM
oh my gosh. . . !!! the next door neighbours house survived as well!!! :shock:

Dr Small
September 20th, 2008, 11:33 PM
oh my gosh. . . !!! the next door neighbours house survived as well!!! :shock:
See, that's what I mean... it really wouldn't be that hard to place a house on an image.

paul101
September 20th, 2008, 11:35 PM
See, that's what I mean... it really wouldn't be that hard to place a house on an image.


yeah, that took me 30 seconds on photoshop cs3, i could do a 10x better job if i could be bothered

SomeGuyDude
September 20th, 2008, 11:37 PM
See, that's what I mean... it really wouldn't be that hard to place a house on an image.

Yes, but you're wrong. There is no "original" version of this image, we've got it from two angles. Hell, you don't even have a picture as proof of "this is what a REAL picture of a house that survived a hurricane looks like".

Seriously you people are impossible. This is why I had to stop reading every single comment on YouTube/Break/Fazed/Fark. I saw videos of things I witnessed and there's people claiming they're fake.

Chilli Bob
September 21st, 2008, 12:06 AM
To me it looks as if they used shop to remove some of the debris in the background to make it look even more bare than it really is.

Whiffle
September 21st, 2008, 12:08 AM
Yes, but you're wrong. There is no "original" version of this image, we've got it from two angles. Hell, you don't even have a picture as proof of "this is what a REAL picture of a house that survived a hurricane looks like".

Seriously you people are impossible. This is why I had to stop reading every single comment on YouTube/Break/Fazed/Fark. I saw videos of things I witnessed and there's people claiming they're fake.

Not to mention, we've got the name of the guy that took to the picture, and if were so inclined could track him down and ask.

Giant Speck
September 21st, 2008, 12:13 AM
Here is a third image of the house:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/art.gilchrist.wildlife.jpg

Doesn't look Photoshopped to me.

rune0077
September 21st, 2008, 12:28 AM
Yes, but you're wrong. There is no "original" version of this image, we've got it from two angles. Hell, you don't even have a picture as proof of "this is what a REAL picture of a house that survived a hurricane looks like".

Seriously you people are impossible. This is why I had to stop reading every single comment on YouTube/Break/Fazed/Fark. I saw videos of things I witnessed and there's people claiming they're fake.

Check this: http://www.oddee.com/item_96450.aspx

It's a given fact that the media photoshop images. The result of this is, that we can in fact never be sure if something we see in the news is real or not. Suspecting forgery is a natural response to the way the media landscape works. You're blaming people, when you should be blaming the media for their practices.

Dr Small
September 21st, 2008, 12:44 AM
Yes, but you're wrong. There is no "original" version of this image, we've got it from two angles. Hell, you don't even have a picture as proof of "this is what a REAL picture of a house that survived a hurricane looks like".

I only had a questioning attitude towards it, since it did look funny. I don't trust the media.


Check this: http://www.oddee.com/item_96450.aspx

It's a given fact that the media photoshop images. The result of this is, that we can in fact never be sure if something we see in the news is real or not. Suspecting forgery is a natural response to the way the media landscape works. You're blaming people, when you should be blaming the media for their practices.
+1
That is why I questioned the image. Even though this one apparently is not a fake, there are potentially others out there that we never even stop to think about, possibly because the photoshopped version is so perfect.

Dr Small

paul101
September 21st, 2008, 01:07 AM
Here is a third image of the house:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/art.gilchrist.wildlife.jpg

Doesn't look Photoshopped to me.


the house is a different colour!!! and theres still debris standing, which is not portrayed in the other photos. the house seems to be in pristine condition


and in the other pic, the house is clearly not off the ground

fedex1993
September 21st, 2008, 03:10 AM
Probley altered. If this was hurricane ike that wiped out all the stuf behind it. If it is on the texas cost there was a law passed back in 1955 that if a house is destroyed by a hurricane there not aloud to rebuild.

Giant Speck
September 21st, 2008, 04:01 AM
the house is a different colour!!! and theres still debris standing, which is not portrayed in the other photos. the house seems to be in pristine condition


and in the other pic, the house is clearly not off the ground

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/SpecKtacle/notafake.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/SpecKtacle/notafake2.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/SpecKtacle/notafake3.jpg

The color of the house does not change. What changes is the level of cloudiness in each photo. It is most cloudy in the first picture, followed by the third photo, and finally there is sunlight in the second photo. You can clearly tell in all three photos that the color of the house is some sort of light yellow, regardless of the difference in sunlight.

The house is clearly off the ground in all three photos. I don't know how you can say that in the first and third photos that the house is not off the ground.

And finally, of course the debris in the second photo appears to be standing farther up than the debris in the first and third photos, and that is obviously because the second photo was taken from the ground, whereas the first and third photos were taken from the air.

I highlighted some areas of interest in each photo. In all three photos:

- the house is light yellow
- the house is off the ground
- the debris surrounding the house matches up (more specifically, the highlighted pieces of debris are all highly visible in all three photos).

Giant Speck
September 21st, 2008, 04:13 AM
Furthermore, I offer undeniable proof that the house is real by presenting an NOAA satellite image of the area of Gilchrist, Texas that the house is located.

http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/ike/geo-C25883958.jpg

The house is located in the left side of the picture.

The house is clearly seen, intact, and with some of the recognizable debris from the CNN photos, most notably the blue barrel-like object located right next to the house.

rune0077
September 21st, 2008, 03:28 PM
Furthermore, I offer undeniable proof that the house is real by presenting an NOAA satellite image of the area of Gilchrist, Texas that the house is located.

http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/ike/geo-C25883958.jpg

The house is located in the left side of the picture.

The house is clearly seen, intact, and with some of the recognizable debris from the CNN photos, most notably the blue barrel-like object located right next to the house.

Nah, I think you just gimp'ed that one yourself :)

Dr Small
September 21st, 2008, 04:22 PM
Furthermore, I offer undeniable proof that the house is real by presenting an NOAA satellite image of the area of Gilchrist, Texas that the house is located.


I am not doubting you, nor your very well documented identifying facts. I respect that, and enjoy a good study on such matters. I was merely asking if the house was fake, or true (in my initial post), and it seems that you have well proved that it does exist.

I generally don't doubt the facts when I see 3 or 4 external resources that prove the same thing. You have done very well in your research. My compliments.

The only thing I was saying was, is this picture real or fake? It was taken by the media, of which I have absolutely no trust in, so I questioned it.

Dr Small

jflaker
October 8th, 2008, 03:44 AM
the house is a different colour!!! and theres still debris standing, which is not portrayed in the other photos. the house seems to be in pristine condition


and in the other pic, the house is clearly not off the ground

The lower level is a blowout level designed to remove all obstruction to incoming water so that the structure remains largely intact. Depending on the age, newer construction can be 18-22 feet above grade......perspective of earlier images doesn't allow a see through view.

While the structure survived, I doubt that it would be considered stable.

8x8 or 12x12 posts and beam construction should stand up to moderate to severe surge enough to allow repairs and restabilization.....I would doubt that it would survive twice so stabilizing is key

steveneddy
October 8th, 2008, 04:27 AM
Tell me your thoughts on this. Take a look at the attached image, and tell me if it is altered or not.

This is the actual image of a home is Brazoria county on part of Galveston Island after the Hurricane Ike.

The house you see pictured was built with modern building codes and the surrounding homes were not.

We were there and saw that block of land.

It is real and the devastation was horrible.