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matthew
November 19th, 2005, 01:21 AM
From Bruce Perens blog here: http://perens.sourcelabs.com/

Richard Stallman, Mark Shuttleworth, and I are in Tunis, Tunisia for the UN World Summit on the information society. We've had an interesting day :-)
Richard is opposed to RF ID, because of the many privacy violations that are possible. It's a real problem, and one worth lobbying about. At the 2003 WSIS in Geneva, there was objection to the RF ID cards that were used, resulting in a promise that they would not be used in 2005. That promise, it turns out, was not kept. In addition, Richard was given a hastily-produced ID with a visible RF ID strip. Mine was made on a longer schedule, it seems, and had an RF ID strip that wasn't visible. I knew it was there because they clearly had us put our cards to a reader at the entrance gate.
You can't give Richard a visible RF ID strip without expecting him to protest. Richard acquired an entire roll of aluminum foil and wore his foil-shielded pass prominently. He willingly unwrapped it to go through any of the visible check-points, he simply objected to the potential that people might be reading the RF ID without his knowledge and tracking him around the grounds. This, again, is a legitimate gripe, handled with Richard's usual highly-visible, guile-less and absolutely un-subtle style of non-violent protest.
During his keynote speech at our panel today, Richard gave a moment's talk about the RF ID issue, and passed his roll of aluminum foil around the room for others to use. A number of people in the overcrowded-to-the-max standing-room-only meeting room obligingly shielded their own passes. UN Security was in the room, not only to protect us but because of the crowd issue, and was bound to notice. Richard and I delivered our keynotes, followed by shorter talks by the rest of the panel and then open discussion.
At the end of the panel, I went out in the hall to be interviewed by various press entities including Al Jazeera. Another item for my CIA dossier, but I'm sure my association with Richard would have caused more notes to be taken today. I was busy with the press for two solid hours. So, I didn't see what happened with Richard. But a whole lot of the people in the room did, and stayed with Richard for the entire process.
Apparently, UN Security would not allow Richard to leave the room.
Richard and I are actually here representing the United Nations, and are carrying UN Development Program IDs. I would otherwise merit a "business entity" ID, but I guess because of our kenote-speaker status our UN Development Program hosts ordered us better treatment. Richard and I also have some limited immunity as delegates to this conference. So, this was no doubt an interesting problem for the security folks, who had no real idea who Richard was except that he was someone reasonably distinguished who was visibly violating their security measure.
All of this completely disrupted the panel that was supposed to follow ours in that room, and the folks operating that panel were rightly furious.
UN Security eventually let him out, and then would not allow him to enter the room where he was appearing on another panel.
I got to the room just as the panel was about to start, at the moment that the problem suddenly evaporated and Richard was allowed to enter. No doubt some of our UN hosts had been dealing with security during those two hours, and eventually got an order from a high-enough officer or something. We'll probably never know who, but imagine the headlines: Kofi Anan frees Richard Stallman. So, I walk in and Richard relates the entire situation to me in front of the audience present, including more than one government minister, and other folks arriving for the panel. I humorously remind Richard that he and I both have immunity as delegates, and he responds "Well, perhaps then I should have killed Bob Kramer". Kramer is the CompTIA representative who comes along to these things to relate an pro-software-patenting and generally anti-Free-Software viewpoint which gets Richard very steamed up. There's a laugh, and I explain that our immunity probably doesn't go that far. Richard goes on to say that he wouldn't really kill anyone, but no doubt UN Security has heard this entire exchange too.
I didn't see anyone further molesting Richard, but I'd imagine he was followed around by plainclothes agents for the rest of the day. This, however, may not be unusual. Perhaps Kramer even got his own protective detail.
I guess I'm permanently on the books now as a dissident, if I wasn't already. Viva la Revolution!

Lovechild
November 19th, 2005, 01:25 AM
I hope an Ogg Theora video of this appears.. it sounds priceless.

23meg
November 19th, 2005, 01:26 AM
I symphatize with Stallman here, as usual. Well done.

BoyOfDestiny
November 19th, 2005, 02:37 AM
Can't say I agree with everything Stallman does (I'm not a LISP fan), but he rocks!

Arktis
November 19th, 2005, 02:41 AM
Have you guys ever read the UN Charter? Freakin' scary. Anyways, this isn't suprising, but I always like to hear about a little rebelion now and then.

darkmatter
November 19th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Richard is my hero....:mrgreen:

ubuntu_demon
November 19th, 2005, 03:18 AM
Funny story :) I agree with this action by RMS

xequence
November 19th, 2005, 03:58 AM
Never heard of richard stallman, probably the only one here it seems.

matthew
November 19th, 2005, 04:05 AM
Never heard of richard stallman, probably the only one here it seems.
He's an interesting person (by reputation and from reading his writings, I've never met him).

Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

xequence
November 19th, 2005, 04:33 AM
He's an interesting person (by reputation and from reading his writings, I've never met him).

Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

Oh, after seeing the picture I sort of realised I had saw the picture before. I just didnt know the name I guess.

Jason-X
November 19th, 2005, 09:36 AM
Richard Stallman is the man!!!:cool:

darkmatter
November 19th, 2005, 11:44 AM
Never heard of richard stallman, probably the only one here it seems.

A great resource on the man and his work...[url]http://www.stallman.org/[/org]

asimon
November 19th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Never forget to bring tin-foil with you! ;-)

public_void
November 19th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Never heard of richard stallman, probably the only one here it seems.
It hadn't heard of him until recently. But he seems a very interesting person.

jc87
November 19th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Will we now change free software saying , from free as free speech not free beer , to free as in Tinfoil Hat?

Malphas
November 19th, 2005, 05:40 PM
You're using a Linux distribution and haven't heard of Richard Stallman!? Geez beez...

poptones
November 19th, 2005, 06:51 PM
I used linux a very long time before I knew of this RMS fellow everyone seemed to be quoting.

Frankly, I think he's a bit nuts... but at least he has ideals.

uberlinux
November 19th, 2005, 06:55 PM
I used linux a very long time before I knew of this RMS fellow everyone seemed to be quoting.

Frankly, I think he's a bit nuts... but at least he has ideals.
Kind of makes him look like a fool considering that tin-foil dosent work

poptones
November 19th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Sure it does. Do some googling... RFID can be easily defeated with a tinfoil wrapper.

matthew
November 19th, 2005, 07:11 PM
I think the foil was used more to draw attention and to make a point rather than to really prevent anything, although it would have prevented his movements from being tracked. He did take the foil off at security checkpoints.

Although, MIT's recent research does hint that for preventing brain control tin is necessary rather than aluminum. :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88493

poptones
November 19th, 2005, 07:30 PM
It wasn't a hat he was wearing but an ID badge wrapped in aluminum foil, and such usage factully does work. US government officials even acknowledged this when some suggested incorporating "tin-foil" be bound into the covers of the new rfid containing passports as a means of protecting passport carriers from being "scanned" without their knowledge.

Of course, a few seconds in a microwave would accomplish the same thing. I wonder what the plans are when people's new ective passports have failures? Will you be held for detention because the chip in your passport has become defective?

az
November 19th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Will you be held for detention because the chip in your passport has become defective?

That is the problem, I guess.

There needs to be extremists like RMS to motivate us moderates. It is healthy to push the boundaries sometimes.

Freedomvoice
January 2nd, 2008, 05:09 PM
RFID is embedded in the National ID Card coming out in 11th of May, People you are going be Tagged like CATTLE , USA PEOPLE WAKE AND TAKE A STAND.Richard Stallman Has a Right to say it invades peoples Pricey i Don't Live in USA or Canada or Mexico but i Care about YOU enough to Give you a Heads UP.THIS REPLY IS NOT A JOKE, I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A JOKE.WAKE UP AND TAKE A STAND NOW OR LAY DOWN LIKE SHEEP GOING TO THE SLAUGHTER.DO NOT TAKE THE VERICHIP DO NOT GET THE NATIONAL ID CARD.AND IF any Linux Distro has RFID EMBEDDED in it STOP USING THE DISTRO Until the RFID IS REMOVED.PEOPLE THIS IS REAL AND REAL AS IT GETs the Reason way Richard Stallman got in trouble with the UN is becuase the only way to Blocl RFID is to USE Tin Foil.you People in the USA , Canada have Have FIVE Months Left to STOP THE NATIONAL ID CARD and if you don't well then all the Nations of the World will Follew the VERIChip with RFID Embedded IMPLANT in HUMANS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EpqBQu7CZ0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFuaXNuIU0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do91pOa-HyQ&feature=related

Peyton
January 2nd, 2008, 05:55 PM
There is no "National ID Card" coming out on May 11th.

LaRoza
January 2nd, 2008, 06:07 PM
There is no "National ID Card" coming out on May 11th.

See the last link in my sig for an explanation.

+1 for RMS.

Dr Small
January 2nd, 2008, 06:13 PM
RFID is embedded in the National ID Card coming out in 11th of May, People you are going be Tagged like CATTLE , USA PEOPLE WAKE AND TAKE A STAND.Richard Stallman Has a Right to say it invades peoples Pricey i Don't Live in USA or Canada or Mexico but i Care about YOU enough to Give you a Heads UP.THIS REPLY IS NOT A JOKE, I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A JOKE.WAKE UP AND TAKE A STAND NOW OR LAY DOWN LIKE SHEEP GOING TO THE SLAUGHTER.DO NOT TAKE THE VERICHIP DO NOT GET THE NATIONAL ID CARD.AND IF any Linux Distro has RFID EMBEDDED in it STOP USING THE DISTRO Until the RFID IS REMOVED.PEOPLE THIS IS REAL AND REAL AS IT GETs the Reason way Richard Stallman got in trouble with the UN is becuase the only way to Blocl RFID is to USE Tin Foil.you People in the USA , Canada have Have FIVE Months Left to STOP THE NATIONAL ID CARD and if you don't well then all the Nations of the World will Follew the VERIChip with RFID Embedded IMPLANT in HUMANS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EpqBQu7CZ0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFuaXNuIU0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do91pOa-HyQ&feature=related
http://www.nonationalid.com/

DeadSuperHero
January 3rd, 2008, 04:04 AM
RMS is freakin' awesome.
I hope to meet him someday.

Saint Angeles
January 3rd, 2008, 04:21 AM
how come i haven't heard about this national ID card?

is it real? it'd better not be. OMG