My friend, Joey

[Sycron]

So, today i'm gonna tell you my story about a friend. My friend it's called Joe'y and since 2001 he always use Microsoft Windows XP. He's just a M$ fanboy that don't know that he HATE opensource,ubuntu and uses alot Mozilla Firefox... which is opensource

Everyday since november 2007 it's using alot the net, google.ro to find crack, for every game,software that he uses. He's life improved very well with year 2007. Now he's using torrent to download such things. He search for porn very carefully, he want's just something that's not free, with crack.

He won't read EULA's and such things NEVER. He's just downloading, installing and if something does not work hes swearing and uninstalling. If something goes wrong, then not a problem hes reinstalling Microsoft Windows XP cracked of course.

His life is getting better every hour he spend at a computer. He's a profesional programmer in BC 3.1 (Copyright '80).

His life was very good, until one day when I told him to try chrome. I give it the docs, EULA, and in the end chrome.

He won't read 38 docs pages. he would never read EULA , and HE IS SWEARING like hell because he cannot download porn because the chrome is crashing right before downloading starts.

Since then he's saying me that he is using only professional software, not the BETA's.

Oo. let's quote:

Hi! I'm Joey and I'm a proffesional programmer. My job is to be professional, and profesionally speaking i have to use all the cracks that exists on the planet. I download only profesional software that is profesional purposal with crack, and I dislike ubuntu,opensource, but I USE everyday Mozilla Firefox.

In my profesional opinion the google people showld release the final,finished,profesional version of Chrome. I'm using only profesional software, for profesional hackers like me.

Then told me that less than 10% of his friends are reading EULA and such things... OMG it's UGLY HOW ROMANIA IS...

Every romania M$ fanboy is a Joey itself. I cannot live anymore like that.

[billgoldberg]

I have no clue what you are saying.

Something about eula's, which I doubt even count in Romania.

[Sycron]

Oh, is about my school mate ;) :} he was at National Olimpiads in Informatics (or how it's named) and he know's nothing about computers...

[tdrusk]

I am having a hard time understanding the purpose of this thread. Does anybody understand this?

[steeleyuk]

Might make sense to another Romanian. Any help? :)

[Sycron]

Lol , what's so hard to understand. Every Romanian computer user it's a joey itself like I sayd above :| ...

Joey is not a real person it's just an interpretation about how Romanian users are using alot pirated software, and how they see open-source, and they're initiative to make things better (which is zero).

[overdrank]

Hi and I have converse with the op and I think they are trying to say that there friend uses pirated software and does not give open source a chance. I believe it goes with the op's post about the friend that will not use Linux and Sycron does not know what to say to convince the friend to try. I hope I summed it up Sycron :)

[Sand & Mercury]

If you're trying to point out how ignorant most people seem to be of EULAs, I don't think that's just a thing in Romania. I've lived in Australia all my life up till this year, and really, everyone I've known has never bothered reading them. The situation's no different here. It's just another screen to click 'Next' for. EULAs aren't exactly compelling reading material for me personally, but well, whatever makes your boat float. :tongue:

[Sycron]

If you're trying to point out how ignorant most people seem to be of EULAs, I don't think that's just a thing in Romania. I've lived in Australia all my life up till this year, and really, everyone I've known has never bothered reading them. The situation's no different here. It's just another screen to click 'Next' for. EULAs aren't exactly compelling reading material for me personally, but well, whatever makes your boat float. :tongue:

I don't read them since i'm using open-source, a BIG part of software is licensed to GPL ... but these people doesn't even know what EULA is and that's a bad thing in my opinion. They don't know the risks of using pirated software.

[Bachstelze]

Something about eula's, which I doubt even count in Romania.

Since Romania is in the EU now, I would think so. Besides, copyright applies worldwide.

[karellen]

I'm from Romania too and I fail to see what's your point...

[Nepherte]

Since Romania is in the EU now, I would doubt it. Besides, copyright applies worldwide.
The latest EU reports on Romania I've read, stated that the situation hasn't improved since their acceptance into the EU and that the postulated requirements they had to fulfill after their acceptance are not met.

It doesn't mean that because copyright applies worldwide, that they are also enforced by official instances.

I do hope Romania prospers from their EU membership though.

[Sycron]

[RO]Vreau sa spun cum trateaza o mare parte a romanilor open-source -ul. Cum poti sa stai din 2002 incoace cu Windows XP.

[EN]I want to show you how a big part of people here in romania are implicated in making thing better with open-source. How could you live with windows XP since 2002 without a change ?

[Bachstelze]

The latest EU reports on Romania I've read, stated that the situation hasn't improved since their acceptance into the EU and that the postulated requirements they had to fulfill after their acceptance are not met.

It doesn't mean that because copyright applies worldwide, that they are also enforced by official instances.

I do hope Romania prospers from their EU membership though.

Well, yeah, my point was that EULAs and copyright do "count" value in Romania. Whether or not that value is enforced is indeed another matter...

[aysiu]

Shouldn't this thread be entitled My Pal Joey?

[Sycron]

My english was to poor(at the moment when writing the thread) to say "pal" . :|

[aysiu]

My english was to poor(at the moment when writing the thread) to say "pal" . :|
Actually friend is perfectly fine in this context. I was just making an allusion to a Broadway musical.

[karellen]

[RO]Vreau sa spun cum trateaza o mare parte a romanilor open-source -ul. Cum poti sa stai din 2002 incoace cu Windows XP.

[EN]I want to show you how a big part of people here in romania are implicated in making thing better with open-source. How could you live with windows XP since 2002 without a change ?

that would be nothing. I know someone who still uses Windows ME (that's right, the worst OS ever); and a whole collection of pirated software, of course

[Sycron]

We'll at least we are not the only one's. However in that crowd of totally newbs I really think that there are alot of people who do and understand right the bad situation of "mass" users. And I know a lot of such persons and i'm grateful when i talk with them..

[joninkrakow]

Lol , what's so hard to understand. Every Romanian computer user it's a joey itself like I sayd above :| ...

Joey is not a real person it's just an interpretation about how Romanian users are using alot pirated software, and how they see open-source, and they're initiative to make things better (which is zero).

If it's any consolation, I understand what you are saying, and I also try to convince my pirating friends that Ubuntu is a much better choice--but it's hard to get them to listen. I'll never understand....

Actually, I think it's partly the fact that it is like stealing, but without the potential for prison--they are getting away with something. The fact that doing this causes them more problems is just part of the challenge. In the US, lots of teens shoplift for the thrill, and people do other, dumb things for the thrill, even if they hurt themselves. I'm glad, at least, that this doesn't describe you, and I appreciate your attempts to communicate this.

-Jon

[Sand & Mercury]

I think piracy is most widespread amongst young people generally, at least from what I've seen. I'm sure it may be a little more or less in some countries than others. Romania's a recovering nation but it's by no means poor, or at least not in my parts. The fact of the matter is you're 99% likely to get away with pirating software for private use. It's only companies who need to be really careful. Yeah it sucks if you're trying to be honest while everyone else isn't, but it's nothing to whinge about too much. Anti-piracy measures taken by companies are putting the squeeze on people more and more until maybe one day, the only choice between shelling out hundreds (or even thousands) for overpriced proprietary software is to go open source.

[k3lt01]

Since Romania is in the EU now, I would think so. Besides, copyright applies worldwide. I hate to disagree with you but Copyright certainly does NOT apply worldwide, if it did Romania, Bulgaria, infact most of the Baltic states, not to mention China and India would be in deep trouble right now. For Copyright to apply it has to be policed and it certainly isn't policed very well in many parts of the world.

[Sycron]

I hate to disagree with you but Copyright certainly does NOT apply worldwide, if it did Romania, Bulgaria, infact most of the Baltic states, not to mention China and India would be in deep trouble right now. For Copyright to apply it has to be policed and it certainly isn't policed very well in many parts of the world.

Sad but true.

[Canis familiaris]

Joey is not a real person it's just an interpretation about how Romanian users are using alot pirated software, and how they see open-source, and they're initiative to make things better (which is zero).
Joeys do not live in Romania alone. They are found extensively all over the World, particularly here in Asia.