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Chessmaster
August 20th, 2008, 08:58 AM
Hey all,

just wondering what search engine alternatives to google do you use and why?

Just wondering if there are any good ones out there and what they are like.

Atomic Dog
August 20th, 2008, 09:04 AM
http://www.cuil.com/

gn2
August 20th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Dogpile (http://www.dogpile.co.uk/) is my favourite.

Doogle (http://www.doogle.org/) as well.

Loaded.len
August 20th, 2008, 09:13 AM
There are no alternatives to Google. Google is all powerful. Pray to mighty Google. The power of Google compels you!

Chessmaster
August 20th, 2008, 09:51 AM
Does anyone have any preferred open source search engines?

[h2o]
August 20th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Does anyone have any preferred open source search engines?

Open Source in what way? Data or application (search engine) or both?

dustman
August 20th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Does anyone have any preferred open source search engines?

do open source search engines exist :-k ?


of well, http://www.cuil.com is ok, and even though it was created by ex-Google programmers, it's not as powerful. The nice thing about it is that is has content-based indexes, so the relevance of search results should be greater. On the other hand, Google shows you more results, even on some keywords cuil hasn't found any results at all ;)

Chessmaster
August 20th, 2008, 10:22 AM
;5627137']Open Source in what way? Data or application (search engine) or both?

Open Source Code: http://www.searchtools.com/tools/tools-opensource.html

Mateo
August 20th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Not if you want accurate search results.

LaRoza
August 20th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Not technically a search engine for the web, but Wikipedia. It is open source (the Wiki used and the content).

Searching on Wikipedia will often get you links to other sites which are almost always worth checking out. In fact, any wiki can be considered a search engine (based on content)

hermes0710
August 20th, 2008, 11:54 AM
http://www.blackle.com

Powered by google and env. friendly :)

Ebuntor
August 20th, 2008, 12:34 PM
There is also Ixquick (http://ixquick.com/). It combines multiple search engines, Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask, Wikipedia etc etc.
It also has a very good privacy policy, here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/protect_privacy.html), here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/privacy-policy.html) and here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/protect_privacy_qa.html) (IP addresses are deleted after 48 hours) and is the only search engine with an European Privacy Seal (http://ixquick.com/eng/press/europrise.html) and offers an encrypted connection (https://ixquick.com/).

jespdj
August 20th, 2008, 01:41 PM
http://www.blackle.com

Powered by google and env. friendly :)

Nice, but it's not true that it's more environmentally friendly because the screen is black.

Quote from the About page:

Blackle saves energy because the screen is predominantly black. "Image displayed is primarily a function of the user's color settings and desktop graphics, as well as the color and size of open application windows; a given monitor requires more power to display a white (or light) screen than a black (or dark) screen."
What they forget to mention is that this is only true for old-fashioned CRT screens. Nowadays almost everybody (in developed countries at least) has an LCD screen.

LCD screens work very differently than CRT screens and they draw the same amount of power, no matter what colour they display; black doesn't save you anything.

Joeb454
August 20th, 2008, 01:44 PM
What about http://goosh.org ?

Canis familiaris
August 20th, 2008, 01:46 PM
What about http://goosh.org ?

That is the most innovative search engine I ever saw. :D

xebian
August 20th, 2008, 01:47 PM
Hey all,

just wondering what search engine alternatives to google do you use and why?

Just wondering if there are any good ones out there and what they are like.

Have you tried googling it?:)

Chessmaster
August 20th, 2008, 01:59 PM
There is also Ixquick (http://ixquick.com/). It combines multiple search engines, Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask, Wikipedia etc etc.
It also has a very good privacy policy, here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/protect_privacy.html), here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/privacy-policy.html) and here (http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/protect_privacy_qa.html) (IP addresses are deleted after 48 hours) and is the only search engine with an European Privacy Seal (http://ixquick.com/eng/press/europrise.html) and offers an encrypted connection (https://ixquick.com/).

In that case, how long do other search engines such as google, yahoo, etc save the IP address? Or do most search engines not have an explicit policy on such matters?

I take it that it was IP addresses that Yahoo handed over to the Chinese Govt a while back and got a load of people arrested.

Joeb454
August 20th, 2008, 02:02 PM
That is the most innovative search engine I ever saw. :D

I think it's awesome :)

Ebuntor
August 20th, 2008, 02:17 PM
In that case, how long do other search engines such as google, yahoo, etc save the IP address? Or do most search engines not have an explicit policy on such matters?

I take it that it was IP addresses that Yahoo handed over to the Chinese Govt a while back and got a load of people arrested.

I don't know about all those search engines but there are a few cases where Google was forced by a judge to handover a user's IP address for certain searches that were done quite a while back (about a year I think). Also IIRC Google doesn't specify how long they store IP addresses, just that they have the right to store them.

As I understand it do it the same way Google does, just mention that they store the address and nothing further. So personally I prefer an engine that does clearly specify how long they store it.

gnicezw
August 20th, 2008, 03:11 PM
What about http://goosh.org ?


This is genius!:)

adamogardner
August 20th, 2008, 03:13 PM
What about http://goosh.org ?

thats neat, but whats the point? I can use it to confuse my friends but what else does it offer?

e4...

hermes0710
August 20th, 2008, 03:19 PM
thats neat, but whats the point? I can use it to confuse my friends but what else does it offer?

e4...

I agree... Things should be kept as simple as possible

Joeb454
August 20th, 2008, 03:21 PM
Command-line junkies would like it...though it's javascript based I believe, so it wouldn't work in many CLI browsers

koji042
August 20th, 2008, 03:26 PM
What about http://goosh.org ?

Pure awesomeness!

zmjjmz
August 20th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Wikia Search is open source, not sure why nobody got there yet.

linuxguymarshall
August 20th, 2008, 04:05 PM
There are no alternatives to Google. Google is all powerful. Pray to mighty Google. The power of Google compels you!

Amen

adamogardner
August 22nd, 2008, 03:37 PM
Command-line junkies would like it...though it's javascript based I believe, so it wouldn't work in many CLI browsers

when I grow up I want to be a CL-Junky. Could you explain how this goosh is used in from the gnome-terminal? I didn't know CLI had browsers.

ooobuntooo
August 22nd, 2008, 04:25 PM
Google are the biggest freakin' supporters of Linux, don't forsake them!!

SomeGuyDude
August 22nd, 2008, 04:30 PM
I popped "alternatives to Google" into my little search box in Firefox and I got a page that said "resistance is futile". I'm a bit concerned.

ooobuntooo
August 22nd, 2008, 04:38 PM
If Google dies, the Linux dies and Firefox dies and Microsoft wins!
w00t!!!!!

bobbocanfly
August 22nd, 2008, 05:56 PM
There is a project to make an open-source distributed Open-source engine, called BeeSeek, which looks interesting, though I dont think it has released any code yet. Still, http://www.beeseek.org/.

Chessmaster
August 23rd, 2008, 07:50 AM
There is a project to make an open-source distributed Open-source engine, called BeeSeek, which looks interesting, though I dont think it has released any code yet. Still, http://www.beeseek.org/.

Cool, looks interesting. I will keep an eye on that one.

Chessmaster
August 23rd, 2008, 07:55 AM
If Google dies, the Linux dies and Firefox dies and Microsoft wins!
w00t!!!!!

Bit of an exageration isn't it. Linux was around long before Google and will be around long after in the very unlikely event that Google ceases to exist.

Google is a brilliant search engine, but there is nothing wrong with checking out google alternatives. Variety is the spice of life and competition is (one of) the mother(s) of innovation. Monopolies are rarely a good thing.

ooobuntooo
August 23rd, 2008, 11:19 AM
Bit of an exageration isn't it. Linux was around long before Google and will be around long after in the very unlikely event that Google ceases to exist.

Google is a brilliant search engine, but there is nothing wrong with checking out google alternatives. Variety is the spice of life and competition is (one of) the mother(s) of innovation. Monopolies are rarely a good thing.

Google is Microsoft's closest rival. Without them MS has total control over the computer industry!

Chessmaster
August 23rd, 2008, 11:27 AM
Google is Microsoft's closest rival. Without them MS has total control over the computer industry!

On the assumption that the competition would adversely affect Google and not Microsoft, and therefore be an advantage to Microsoft.

It could well be that some more competition cuts them both down to size.