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Inane_Asylum
August 18th, 2008, 04:14 PM
I just found this...and I'd like to hope that it's a joke.

Funny stuff, though.:lolflag:

http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/

Bachstelze
August 18th, 2008, 04:21 PM
http://www.promotinglinux.com/contacts/

Stan_1936
August 18th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Ron "The Truth" Killings

el mariachi
August 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM
"linux Users are in a cult"
"linux users are dangerous"
linux only uses c#? that means all those people going to pycon are a bunch of liars!! Python doesn't exist! Open your people xD (and neither does Perl or Ruby or [insert endless list of programming languages])


One last thing: This site runs on Linux.
Another note: Reading the comments on these pages shows that 50% to 85% of Linux users are 1) in a cult and 2) fully retarded. Nice work people.


We have to give him credit... linux users that can't see this is a joke and flame the webmaster are in a cult and are retarded haha

kirsis
August 18th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Lol, kinda scary how hostile some of the Linux fanboys get ...

cardinals_fan
August 18th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Lol, kinda scary how hostile some of the Linux fanboys get ...
...and how stupid they are. This is such an obvious joke. How can some people be moronic enough to take it seriously?

el mariachi
August 18th, 2008, 07:43 PM
[LINUX is]A toy with lead paint. And lead paint is a dangerous substance. It retards the healthy development of the body and mind. Lead causes nervous system damage, hearing loss, stunted growth, reduced IQ, and delayed development.this is so cool xD

And without stolen patented algorithms, it can only address the 1st 640 Kilobytes of the Gigabit.This is such an obvious joke... haha

Instead of flaming other people, I think we should "ride the tide" and keep up with the joke :D
"Linus Trovalds(TM) doesn't wear eyeglasses, which means he's not as geeky as Bill Gates(C), which in turn means Linux is worst than Windows."

RATM_Owns
August 18th, 2008, 07:43 PM
http://www.promotinglinux.com/proof

Inane_Asylum
August 18th, 2008, 07:46 PM
kind of funny/sad that this site set up as a parody of a windows fanboy-type site making fun of Linux, bringing in the extreme Linux fanboys who (at least in their case) prove his point that he wan't really...trying...to make...:confused:

wow...

el mariachi
August 18th, 2008, 07:48 PM
@Inane_Asylum (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=639762): scary, isn't it? lol

BTW: Please read this page! it's so awesomely, insanely funny haha http://www.promotinglinux.com/threats/

Chame_Wizard
August 18th, 2008, 09:25 PM
Linux is far better than Winslow :guitar:

el mariachi
August 18th, 2008, 09:41 PM
ooh come on.... no one will come out of your closet at night if you say MICROSOFT WINDOWS

oh...wait...what's that?.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

drubin
August 18th, 2008, 11:27 PM
"Linus Trovalds(TM) doesn't wear eyeglasses, which means he's not as geeky as Bill Gates(C), which in turn means Linux is worst than Windows."
Ha ha

bilijoe
August 19th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Lol, kinda scary how hostile some of the Linux fanboys get ...

...and how stupid they are. This is such an obvious joke. How can some people be moronic enough to take it seriously? I beg to differ. All kinds of people, all intelligence levels, all IQ levels, all manner of slightly to seriously mentally ill, disenfranchised Teenagers desperately seeking a cause, deranged people, naive people, young people with little experience with "humor" of this type, older people who's minds may no longer be able explore all possibilities before coming to a conclusion, etc., etc., etc., have access to the Internet. NOTHING on the Internet (except some porn sites) enjoys a select audience. Everything is available to everybody.

With that in mind, I think it is terribly irresponsible to host a site such as "The Truth...". I consider myself a pretty smart cookie. I have a comfortably high IQ, a good education, and a well rounded life experience (so far), and, being from a part of the country where this kind of mentality thrives, and is generally taken seriously (though aimed at different targets), I didn't even consider that what was posted on that site might be a "joke". I've seen arguments, just as rediculous, used in all seriousness, in attempts to convert the like minded, and weak minded to a cause.

Even after reading some of the comments that referred to the content as humor--as a joke--I still believed that the site might very well be entirely serious. For some of you, that may be hard to believe, but having read KKK and Neo-Nazi literature, and finding the logic and arguments there to be frighteningly similar to those on "The Truth" site, I could not dismiss it as "humor". My feeling was that, if indeed it was humor, it was in exceptionally bad taste, and given that the webmaster has no controll over who does or does not visit the site, I consider it almost criminally irresponsible.

Too many people in the modern World are sitting "on the edge", to subject them to something so apparently real, with such a strong message. It was only after visiting http://www.promotinglinux.com/contacts/ that I was finally convinced that this IS a "joke". Well, I think it is in exceptionally poor taste, and near criminally irresponsible. This is not the Comedy Channel on late night TV, where the kiddies are in bed, and the adults watching, even if mentally challenged, are expecting satire. This is a Web site, made to look entirely real, and worded as if it were entirely serious.

There is a significant segment of society that would be entirely incapable of discerning this from a "real", factual, and serious site. The creators and maintainers of this site are playing [Russian Roulette] with [some] peoples minds here, and I find that unacceptable. And should some poor person of marginal intelligence, or mental ability, take some unfortunate action, based on believing all or any part of the contents of this site, I would hope the law would hold the creators and maintainers of the site fully accountable.

In addition, I am personally offended, simply by the fact that the rhetoric of the content is entirely too reminiscent (for my liking) to the rhetoric exercised by groups such as the KKK, the Arian Brotherhood, etc. Bad taste. Bad judgment. Bad humor. No socially redeming value. This site, and all those like it, should be dismantled immediately--tomorrow, or tonight (all that has to be done is to pull the plug, or throw the breaker, and they're gone). And for any that persist, I hope that when (and I do mean when and not if) some unfortunate event results from someone taking the site seriously, I hope the courts hit the operators of the site with the full force of the law. Depending on the magnitude of the "event" that will eventually result, I wouldn't even rule out prison time for those responsible for the content of such sites.

I'm sorry if you think I'm being a spoil sport over this, but I just see the potential for something terrible happening to be entirely too great to justify taking the chance of allowing such sites to exist. Is the "fun" you get from reading through this crap posing as humor worth the worsening of the condition of a person already suffering from chronic non-specific paranoia? Or worse, is it worth the potential suicide of a person already suffering from extreme chronic depression? Think these are extreme cases? Maybe so, but millions and millions of people have access to everything on the Internet, including such "humorus" sites as "The Truth", and within that huge population are many more people than you probably are aware of who suffer from long term, chronic depression, who are already, for no particular reason at all, sitting on the edge of suicide. Something that, to you, would be too trivial to even mention, may very well be the straw that breaks the camel's back for such a person.

I don't think there is much more to be said. I'm sure I've repeated myself several times already. But being a person who has to deal with depression and anxiety every day of my life, and having gone through periods where nearly any little thing could have pushed me over the edge, either to a much more serious mental condition, or to suicide, I am telling you, from personal experience, this kind of stuff is NOT FUNNY. Not funny enough to risk even one persons mental health, or life over.

Though some of you may have laughed 'till it hurt, I, for one, found nothing humorous, anywnere in the entire text of "The Truth". It simply was not humor to me, in any way shape or form. When I found out it was done purposfully to appear serious, but to be "funny", I was insensed, insulted, and angry. This is no more intellectual than a High School prank that is "funny" to everyone except the "victim". At best, this kind of humor belongs in the same category as High School Locker Room humor. Something "normal" people grow out of in the process of becoming responsible adults.

I'm done here. The more I type, the more infuriated I become, over the thoughtlessness of this kind of humor. All I can say is that my overall opinion of the computer-using, Internet savvy population has just dropped a notch. I thought such people would act more responsibily, would think through the possible concequences of their actions, and would have left the High School Locker Room humor where it belongs--in High School. Even if the operators of "The Truth" are still in High School (which I realize is a distinct possibility) I would have hoped that, as computer people, they would have displayed more sophistication and maturity than the "jocks", who are the usual perpetrators of swirlies and wedgies.

I urge any of you who agree with me to submit posts supporting this view--that such "humor" as is on "The Truth" site is inappropriate, and ought not to be supported. I have no more to say.

jespdj
August 19th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Even after reading some of the comments that referred to the content as humor--as a joke--I still believed that the site might very well be entirely serious.
You should really read the contacts (http://www.promotinglinux.com/contacts/) page. Complain to the owners of the website, not on the Ubuntu forums.

kirsis
August 19th, 2008, 12:57 PM
<snip site criminally irresponsible, KKK + Aryan Brotherhood rhetoric>


I see what you did there :)

kaboodle_fish
August 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
I beg to differ. All kinds of people, all intelligence levels, all IQ levels, all manner of slightly to seriously mentally ill, disenfranchised Teenagers desperately seeking a cause, deranged people, naive people, young people with little experience with "humor" of this type, older people who's minds may no longer be able explore all possibilities before coming to a conclusion, etc., etc., etc., have access to the Internet. NOTHING on the Internet (except some porn sites) enjoys a select audience. Everything is available to everybody.

I am not quite sure of the point you are trying to make here. Freedom of speech means that all these people have always had access to (mis)information. Maybe you could argue that it is easier to get hold of these days, but to blame the internet for being too open is beyond ridiculous.


With that in mind, I think it is terribly irresponsible to host a site such as "The Truth...". I consider myself a pretty smart cookie. I have a comfortably high IQ, a good education, and a well rounded life experience (so far), and, being from a part of the country where this kind of mentality thrives, and is generally taken seriously (though aimed at different targets), I didn't even consider that what was posted on that site might be a "joke". I've seen arguments, just as rediculous, used in all seriousness, in attempts to convert the like minded, and weak minded to a cause.

If it was not legal, it would not be there. Simple as. Since the start of time weak minds have been "converted" and if this site did not exist another would take its place.


Even after reading some of the comments that referred to the content as humor--as a joke--I still believed that the site might very well be entirely serious. For some of you, that may be hard to believe, but having read KKK and Neo-Nazi literature, and finding the logic and arguments there to be frighteningly similar to those on "The Truth" site, I could not dismiss it as "humor". My feeling was that, if indeed it was humor, it was in exceptionally bad taste, and given that the webmaster has no controll over who does or does not visit the site, I consider it almost criminally irresponsible.

Kind of proves my point above doesn't it? If "The Truth" did not exist, then how many of those weak minds (as you put it) would find something to believe in sites such as those of the KKK?


Too many people in the modern World are sitting "on the edge",.....<snip> .... I would hope the law would hold the creators and maintainers of the site fully accountable.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? The attitude that putting forward the opinions on "The Truth" regardless of if they are satire or not, is going to cause a person to have a breakdown of any kind is without foundation or reasoned thought.


In addition, I am personally offended, simply by the fact that the rhetoric of the content is entirely too reminiscent (for my liking) to the rhetoric exercised by groups such as the KKK, the Arian Brotherhood, etc. Bad taste. Bad judgment. Bad humor. No socially redeming value. This site, and all those like it, should be dismantled immediately--tomorrow, or tonight (all that has to be done is to pull the plug, or throw the breaker, and they're gone). And for any that persist, I hope that when (and I do mean when and not if) some unfortunate event results from someone taking the site seriously, I hope the courts hit the operators of the site with the full force of the law. Depending on the magnitude of the "event" that will eventually result, I wouldn't even rule out prison time for those responsible for the content of such sites.

So you agree that censorship and the banning of opinions that differ from your own is not only a good thing, but also necessary? Because that is exactly what you are saying.


<snip the rest of it>

Blaming the internet, or even sites such as "The Truth" for mental health issues amongst some members of the general population is nothing more than seeking a scapegoat and a complete lack of understanding of what real dangers are actually out there.

bilijoe
August 19th, 2008, 01:58 PM
You should really read the contacts (http://www.promotinglinux.com/contacts/) page. Complain to the owners of the website, not on the Ubuntu forums. I did, as I stated in my post, read the "contacts" page. Doesn't change my opinion. It would have, if it had been offered as a preface to the rest of the site, but it is pretty well buried. And you are right, I should (and will) complain to the owners of the web site, but I felt it appropriate to make my comments here, as so many other posters seemed to be taking this so lightly. I felt that they, as much as anyone else, needed to be made aware that not everyone who has access to the Internet is able to distinguish between truth (or honest, if offensive, opinion) and [subtle and obtuse] "humor".

kaboodle_fish
August 19th, 2008, 02:17 PM
I did, as I stated in my post, read the "contacts" page. Doesn't change my opinion. It would have, if it had been offered as a preface to the rest of the site, but it is pretty well buried. And you are right, I should (and will) complain to the owners of the web site, but I felt it appropriate to make my comments here, as so many other posters seemed to be taking this so lightly. I felt that they, as much as anyone else, needed to be made aware that not everyone who has access to the Internet is able to distinguish between truth (or honest, if offensive, opinion) and [subtle and obtuse] "humor".

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Does anyone else see the irony here?

cmay
August 19th, 2008, 02:21 PM
<snip>

rune0077
August 19th, 2008, 02:44 PM
I did, as I stated in my post, read the "contacts" page. Doesn't change my opinion. It would have, if it had been offered as a preface to the rest of the site, but it is pretty well buried. And you are right, I should (and will) complain to the owners of the web site, but I felt it appropriate to make my comments here, as so many other posters seemed to be taking this so lightly. I felt that they, as much as anyone else, needed to be made aware that not everyone who has access to the Internet is able to distinguish between truth (or honest, if offensive, opinion) and [subtle and obtuse] "humor".

Some of the best literature in the world is satire. Everyone has access to it, you can buy it in every bookstore in the world. Should we complain to the bookstores and libraries as well?

forger
August 19th, 2008, 02:50 PM
No offense but there are already a topic with the same subject:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882933

adamogardner
August 19th, 2008, 02:54 PM
No offense but there are already a topic with the same subject:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882933

So? what should we do?

fiddledd
August 19th, 2008, 03:14 PM
I beg to differ. All kinds of people, all intelligence levels, all IQ levels, all manner of slightly to seriously mentally ill, disenfranchised Teenagers desperately seeking a cause, deranged people, naive people, young people with little experience with "humor" of this type, older people who's minds may no longer be able explore all possibilities before coming to a conclusion, etc., etc., etc., have access to the Internet. NOTHING on the Internet (except some porn sites) enjoys a select audience. Everything is available to everybody.

With that in mind, I think it is terribly irresponsible to host a site such as "The Truth...". I consider myself a pretty smart cookie. I have a comfortably high IQ, a good education, and a well rounded life experience (so far), and, being from a part of the country where this kind of mentality thrives, and is generally taken seriously (though aimed at different targets), I didn't even consider that what was posted on that site might be a "joke". I've seen arguments, just as rediculous, used in all seriousness, in attempts to convert the like minded, and weak minded to a cause.

Even after reading some of the comments that referred to the content as humor--as a joke--I still believed that the site might very well be entirely serious. For some of you, that may be hard to believe, but having read KKK and Neo-Nazi literature, and finding the logic and arguments there to be frighteningly similar to those on "The Truth" site, I could not dismiss it as "humor". My feeling was that, if indeed it was humor, it was in exceptionally bad taste, and given that the webmaster has no controll over who does or does not visit the site, I consider it almost criminally irresponsible.

Too many people in the modern World are sitting "on the edge", to subject them to something so apparently real, with such a strong message. It was only after visiting http://www.promotinglinux.com/contacts/ that I was finally convinced that this IS a "joke". Well, I think it is in exceptionally poor taste, and near criminally irresponsible. This is not the Comedy Channel on late night TV, where the kiddies are in bed, and the adults watching, even if mentally challenged, are expecting satire. This is a Web site, made to look entirely real, and worded as if it were entirely serious.

There is a significant segment of society that would be entirely incapable of discerning this from a "real", factual, and serious site. The creators and maintainers of this site are playing [Russian Roulette] with [some] peoples minds here, and I find that unacceptable. And should some poor person of marginal intelligence, or mental ability, take some unfortunate action, based on believing all or any part of the contents of this site, I would hope the law would hold the creators and maintainers of the site fully accountable.

In addition, I am personally offended, simply by the fact that the rhetoric of the content is entirely too reminiscent (for my liking) to the rhetoric exercised by groups such as the KKK, the Arian Brotherhood, etc. Bad taste. Bad judgment. Bad humor. No socially redeming value. This site, and all those like it, should be dismantled immediately--tomorrow, or tonight (all that has to be done is to pull the plug, or throw the breaker, and they're gone). And for any that persist, I hope that when (and I do mean when and not if) some unfortunate event results from someone taking the site seriously, I hope the courts hit the operators of the site with the full force of the law. Depending on the magnitude of the "event" that will eventually result, I wouldn't even rule out prison time for those responsible for the content of such sites.

I'm sorry if you think I'm being a spoil sport over this, but I just see the potential for something terrible happening to be entirely too great to justify taking the chance of allowing such sites to exist. Is the "fun" you get from reading through this crap posing as humor worth the worsening of the condition of a person already suffering from chronic non-specific paranoia? Or worse, is it worth the potential suicide of a person already suffering from extreme chronic depression? Think these are extreme cases? Maybe so, but millions and millions of people have access to everything on the Internet, including such "humorus" sites as "The Truth", and within that huge population are many more people than you probably are aware of who suffer from long term, chronic depression, who are already, for no particular reason at all, sitting on the edge of suicide. Something that, to you, would be too trivial to even mention, may very well be the straw that breaks the camel's back for such a person.

I don't think there is much more to be said. I'm sure I've repeated myself several times already. But being a person who has to deal with depression and anxiety every day of my life, and having gone through periods where nearly any little thing could have pushed me over the edge, either to a much more serious mental condition, or to suicide, I am telling you, from personal experience, this kind of stuff is NOT FUNNY. Not funny enough to risk even one persons mental health, or life over.

Though some of you may have laughed 'till it hurt, I, for one, found nothing humorous, anywnere in the entire text of "The Truth". It simply was not humor to me, in any way shape or form. When I found out it was done purposfully to appear serious, but to be "funny", I was insensed, insulted, and angry. This is no more intellectual than a High School prank that is "funny" to everyone except the "victim". At best, this kind of humor belongs in the same category as High School Locker Room humor. Something "normal" people grow out of in the process of becoming responsible adults.

I'm done here. The more I type, the more infuriated I become, over the thoughtlessness of this kind of humor. All I can say is that my overall opinion of the computer-using, Internet savvy population has just dropped a notch. I thought such people would act more responsibily, would think through the possible concequences of their actions, and would have left the High School Locker Room humor where it belongs--in High School. Even if the operators of "The Truth" are still in High School (which I realize is a distinct possibility) I would have hoped that, as computer people, they would have displayed more sophistication and maturity than the "jocks", who are the usual perpetrators of swirlies and wedgies.

I urge any of you who agree with me to submit posts supporting this view--that such "humor" as is on "The Truth" site is inappropriate, and ought not to be supported. I have no more to say.

I'm almost lost for words. I kind of hope you are being as satirical as the website being discussed.

sydbat
August 19th, 2008, 03:25 PM
After reading through this thread, I peed myself a little...

JillSwift
August 19th, 2008, 03:43 PM
<trim>I urge any of you who agree with me to submit posts supporting this view--that such "humor" as is on "The Truth" site is inappropriate, and ought not to be supported. I have no more to say.Who should be the arbiter of what is "appropriate"? What ever happened to personal responsibility? I am unwilling to have all the sharp corners of the world padded because a few may get hurt.

bilijoe
August 19th, 2008, 03:51 PM
I am not quite sure of the point you are trying to make here. Freedom of speech means that all these people have always had access to (mis)information. Maybe you could argue that it is easier to get hold of these days, but to blame the internet for being too open is beyond ridiculous.



If it was not legal, it would not be there. Simple as. Since the start of time weak minds have been "converted" and if this site did not exist another would take its place.



Kind of proves my point above doesn't it? If "The Truth" did not exist, then how many of those weak minds (as you put it) would find something to believe in sites such as those of the KKK?



Whatever happened to personal responsibility? The attitude that putting forward the opinions on "The Truth" regardless of if they are satire or not, is going to cause a person to have a breakdown of any kind is without foundation or reasoned thought.



So you agree that censorship and the banning of opinions that differ from your own is not only a good thing, but also necessary? Because that is exactly what you are saying.



Blaming the internet, or even sites such as "The Truth" for mental health issues amongst some members of the general population is nothing more than seeking a scapegoat and a complete lack of understanding of what real dangers are actually out there. I guess, by now, I should no longer be amazed at the lengths to which people will go in order to misunderstand someone else's words.

Just where is it in my post that I "blamed the Internet" for anything?

Does the fact that an abuse has been taking place "since the start of time" (which, by the way is physically impossible) justify, or in any way, make it acceptable?

The foundation for such phenomena is well established and documented in medical literature.

You have no ability to know whether or not I indulged in "reasoned thought".

I did not mention or imply any act of censorship, nor did I make any suggestions regarding opinions. What I did propose is that web site owners should act responsibly, and pull [their own] plugs on sites that are socially irresponsible.

"Exactly" where did I mention banning anything?

The fact that you can infer something from my words, says absolutely nothing about what I actually said.

"Whatever happened to personal responsibility" is a very good question, and is not to far from a radical condensation of my point about web site owners taking responsibility the social appropriateness of their sites.

You seem to have taken rather passionate offense to much of what I said. Just what is it that you believe you are defending? As you should be able to tell from the quote that ends my signature, I am a staunch defender of the freedom of speech. However, I do have very little patience for those who would abuse any freedom, especially when for the purpose of disseminating material that espouses prejudice against, or spreads false information about any group or individual.

An intent to be humorous no more relieves "The Truth" of responsibility for the false information or the prejudicial statements made about Linux users, than casting derogatory statements in the form of a joke relieves a person of the responsibility for demeaning Blacks, Polls, or any other group. Do you condone Pollock jokes because they are intended to be humorous?

Whether intended to be funny or not, given the number of people who have apparently taken the site seriously, the material on "The Truth"'s site is clearly prejudicial towards, and clearly contains an abundance of false information about Linux users.

The fact that you may have seen through the ruse and perceived it as humor from the outset, has no relevance when it comes to how others may initially or ultimately perceive it.

There are still many people who think Pollock jokes are funny, but most Polls find them offensive. Does Freedom of Speech, and the fact that some people regard them as humor, make Pollock jokes acceptable?

I'm sorry, but the degree to which you jumped to conclusions, read in between the lines things I had not said, misinterpreted things which I had said, and drew conclusions not connected to my words, makes me realize I have just wasted a significant bit of my time. So, I am going to cut my losses, and not waste any more. I have better things to do.

A word of advice though, before I go: in future, I would urge you to make certain that you understand what has actually been said, before you comment on it. A practice that helps make life less stressful for all involved.

rune0077
August 19th, 2008, 03:58 PM
A word of advice though, before I go: in future, I would urge you to make certain that you understand what has actually been said, before you comment on it. A practice that helps make life less stressful for all involved.

Hmm, if everyone had taken that advice, no one would have thought "The Truth" to be even remotely serious. Clearly the people who think it serious, are the ones who who do not bother to try and understand something before posting.

kirsis
August 19th, 2008, 04:06 PM
I'm almost lost for words. I kind of hope you are being as satirical as the website being discussed.

This. I can't bring myself to believe he's serious (Criminally irresponsible? Really?) :) + the line in his signature makes it all the more suspicious.

cmay
August 19th, 2008, 04:16 PM
I don't think there is much more to be said. I'm sure I've repeated myself several times already. But being a person who has to deal with depression and anxiety every day of my life, and having gone through periods where nearly any little thing could have pushed me over the edge, either to a much more serious mental condition, or to suicide, I am telling you, from personal experience, this kind of stuff is NOT FUNNY. Not funny enough to risk even one persons mental health, or life over.

please do not make fun of the guy.
read this at a very least before you do respond.

Riffer
August 19th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Somewhere along the line, no matter how nice you are, how thoughtful and articulate your arguments are, you will offend someone.

What I found interesting is how so many jumped to conclusions. They read maybe half the first page and reacted. It reminds me of another site where it is clearly based on humour and satire, yet so many took it to be true.

http://www.standingonguard.com/index2.html

Its a sad fact of life on the 'net that thoughtful sites rarely get more then a quick skim from most of their "visitors".

kaboodle_fish
August 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM
So, I am going to cut my losses, and not waste any more. I have better things to do.

Bye then!


A word of advice though, before I go: in future, I would urge you to make certain that you understand what has actually been said, before you comment on it. A practice that helps make life less stressful for all involved.

Still here?

Whatever way you want to spin it, or however much you want to deny it, what you clearly said was that because some people might be offended or damaged by what is on that site it should not be there, either by forced or self censorship.

No reading between any lines is required to see that.

CptPicard
August 26th, 2008, 03:53 AM
please do not make fun of the guy.
read this at a very least before you do respond.

Well, if he insists on arguing a point, I don't think mental health issues are still any kind of an excuse here, no matter how much I might sympathize with the condition itself.

If bilijoe really wrote that rant because he's unstable, I think the best way to get help him get back to his senses is to firmly tell him that humour is ok and healthy and good for you and there really is nothing wrong with that site, REALLY. Trust us! :)

The idea of some impressionable/desperate mind killing oneself over a Linux humour site is totally hilarious though, I can't imagine how one might come to such an end result -- you'd have to be essentially so screwed up in the head that it would be better to just lock up all people who are in such a dire condition for their own good -- we can't possibly be that careful in our everyday lives... I love being sarcastic/ironic so much that I guess people would be dying like flies around me really if this really was that common... ;)

TheMaxzilla
August 26th, 2008, 04:04 AM
I beg to differ. All kinds of people, all intelligence levels, all IQ levels, all manner of slightly to seriously mentally ill, disenfranchised Teenagers desperately seeking a cause, deranged people, naive people, young people with little experience with "humor" of this type, older people who's minds may no longer be able explore all possibilities before coming to a conclusion, etc., etc., etc., have access to the Internet. NOTHING on the Internet (except some porn sites) enjoys a select audience. Everything is available to everybody.
*snip*
I urge any of you who agree with me to submit posts supporting this view--that such "humor" as is on "The Truth" site is inappropriate, and ought not to be supported. I have no more to say.

Holy ****, that was a long block of text. :)

BGFG
August 26th, 2008, 06:14 AM
As some of you might know, this website was moved from a Windows 2008 Server with Hyper-V to a Linux host. This was done for testing reasons only. I wanted to be open to new ideas and be fair to everyone.

In this time period, it seems as if a hacker took advantage of the fact that we were now using Linux and was able to break in, and in the spirit of GNU/Linux, post hate speach messages and pornography. This person was even able to delete our ‘proof’ page.


Think this was a dead giveaway that he was have a grand ole story spinning time :)
Don't hate the fanboys too much though (i have not read their comments and don't know how extreme they got) but every OS needs it's fanboys.
They are just passionate and easily baited.

CptPicard
August 26th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Another awfully irresponsible website is certainly http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page then :)

kirsis
August 26th, 2008, 03:10 PM
... every OS needs it's fanboys

I don't think anything ever deserves blind devotion (=fanboyism)

Wybiral
August 26th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I beg to differ...

Wow... It's people like you who threaten to ruin our free internet.

rune0077
August 26th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Wow... It's people like you who threaten to ruin our free internet.

What's a free internet? Never heard of it.

Wybiral
August 26th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Does Freedom of Speech, and the fact that some people regard them as humor, make Pollock jokes acceptable?

You don't have to accept something to support its right to be said. In the case of this website, whether they were serious or not (and they weren't) it's the internet. Anyone is welcome to create a counter-site to disprove statements made on this site.

I don't care if YOU don't like it because YOU'RE unstable and worried about peoples health... People with those conditions might want to just avoid the internet all-together (because there are worse sites out there, like this (http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/e-sermons/butcher.html)). I don't want censorship here regardless of how much I disagree. There's an amazing ability that people have on the internet, the ability to navigate away :)