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mikedemario17
July 27th, 2008, 07:19 AM
well a few days ago i asked what i needed to make a good PC and you guys helped with alot of responces and site suggestions
...(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870464) so i have compiled a list of the parts going into my machine and i need your help again to tell me if they will all work good together...

Name*
harddrive-Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
case/power-Rosewill R6423 SL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case+350W Power Supply
memory-CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2
motherboard-GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128090
processor-AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO5000CZBOX
processor fan-ARCTIC COOLING ACF64LP 60mm CPU Cooler for low profile PC
link*
harddrive-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822135106
case/power-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147051
memory-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146580
motherboard-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128090
processor-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103765
processor fan-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186019

Canis familiaris
July 27th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Remember using a custom CPU heatsink will void your warranty of the CPU.
Also buy a 250GB hardisk or more space with more cache. This one has 8MB. I would recommend 16MB buffer hard disk.
WesternDigital is a good choice though.

madjr
July 27th, 2008, 10:08 AM
you're building it yourself this time?

why the sudden change of heart?

if you're going with newegg, i suggest you purchase the extra guarantee they offer on motherboard and processor for $9.99 (i think), it's not worth the risk just to save a few bucks.

also, the motherboard has an onboard ATI video card, so i don't know how that would go, at this time i would suggest you purchase one with onboard Geforce/nforce 6100 or get an extra PCIe videocard

estyles
July 27th, 2008, 04:19 PM
That power-supply looks a little underpowered. It's hard to tell just from the wattage, because a 500W PSU could potentially be worse than a 350W PSU, but it they don't tell you the brand, it's most likely a crappy 350W PSU, which may not work very well. On the other hand, you're going with onboard video and an extra video card is one of the things that uses the most power, so maybe 350W is plenty.

Erdaron
July 27th, 2008, 07:44 PM
I looked up your case on Rosewill's website (http://rosewill.com/Product/product.aspx?productId=515), and it seems the PSU is short on connectors. I don't now if your CPU requires the extra connector, but this PSU doesn't have it. Also, it has only four peripheral connectors, I'm not even sure if that includes SATA and PCIe power connectors.

Get a case without a PSU, and splurge a little more on a PSU with active PFC. Also, if you're ever going to upgrade to a PCIe video card, they usually require a minimum 350W PSU, so giving yourself a little more room with the power might be a good idea. Not to mention that a cheapo PSU probably won't supply steady voltage, which will slowly kill your system.

fedex1993
July 27th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Remember using a custom CPU heatsink will void your warranty of the CPU.
Also buy a 250GB hardisk or more space with more cache. This one has 8MB. I would recommend 16MB buffer hard disk.
WesternDigital is a good choice though.

actually from what i remember using a custom cpu heatsink does not void your warranty. I think overclocking is where it voids the warranty.

tamoneya
July 27th, 2008, 09:29 PM
actually from what i remember using a custom cpu heatsink does not void your warranty. I think overclocking is where it voids the warranty.

i believe you are correct. I have never heard of a after market cooler voiding your warranty. I mean some CPU ship without them. How do they expect it to no explode if you dont put an after market cooler on it.

tamoneya
July 27th, 2008, 09:35 PM
I am also going to second the recommendation to get a different power supply. If you look at that power supply you will notice that it only has a 20 pin atx connector. Your motherboard wants a 24 pin or a 20 + 4 pin connector. You can keep the case but just ignore the powersupply. I personally like this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182074. I have this PSU and I am actually using it on the same motherboard which by the way is awesome.

mikedemario17
July 27th, 2008, 10:22 PM
so a new power supply? that has a 20+4 or 24 pin? yes? and a new cpu fan?...does the fan come with a heat sink or do i have to buy one....and can some1 post a link to a power supply that works with my mother board... and a case that will work with my stuff...under $55

Erdaron
July 27th, 2008, 11:17 PM
I'm using an Antec EA380 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005) PSU, which is quite excellent, and using it with Rosewill R222-P-BK (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147095) case. PSU is currently $40 (on a great sale), and the case is $25. It's a minimalist case, but roomy and pretty decent quality. My mobo is also microATX, and it fit in this case just fine. In fact, it looks kind of tiny in that expanse.

Make sure that if you are buying a PSU which has exhaust on the topside, that your case also has a port on the top. Otherwise you'll have to cut an opening yourself.

Also, looking at the mobo, it says it uses DDR2 1066 RAM, and you are buying DDR2 667 RAM. You should match RAM to mobo.

geekygirl
July 28th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Question: Do you really need an aftermarket CPU cooler? Stock AMD (like Intels) are pretty good these days and unless you plan on overclocking your system, (I am guessing you are not given that you have only selected 1G of 600MHz DDR2)and after market cooler wont be doing anything that the stock cooler cant do itself.

I would also get 2G of memory, DDR2 memory since it is dirt cheap these days, and anything up to 4G on a 32bit system is worth it!

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 04:00 AM
I'm using an Antec EA380 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005) PSU, which is quite excellent, and using it with Rosewill R222-P-BK (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147095) case. PSU is currently $40 (on a great sale), and the case is $25. It's a minimalist case, but roomy and pretty decent quality. My mobo is also microATX, and it fit in this case just fine. In fact, it looks kind of tiny in that expanse.

Make sure that if you are buying a PSU which has exhaust on the topside, that your case also has a port on the top. Otherwise you'll have to cut an opening yourself.

Also, looking at the mobo, it says it uses DDR2 1066 RAM, and you are buying DDR2 667 RAM. You should match RAM to mobo.
so will thos psu and the case work with my mobo

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 04:02 AM
post a cooler that will go with my mobo....i didnt c any ones that matched

geekygirl
July 28th, 2008, 05:09 AM
When you buy your CPU it should come with a CPU cooler in the box.

When a motherboard says 1066MHz DDR2 memory, it just means it can support memory speeds up to 1066MHz. Doesnt mean that is the sort you need to use on it.

My motherboard says 1200MHz on it...but I run 1066MHZ @stock :P with no side effects..lol

1066MHz can be an overkill in a system that isnt going to be overclocked, will happily run 800MHz (this is REALLY good value for money right now) and isnt going to be used for hardcore 3D gaming. Besides you will pay a bit more money for 1066 as well!

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 05:12 AM
post a cooler that will go with my mobo....i didnt c any ones that matched

Since your processor is a retail processor it has a cpu heatsink/fan with it. You can buy what are called OEM processors which are like $10 cheaper but they do not come with heatsink.

Erdaron
July 28th, 2008, 08:04 AM
so will thos psu and the case work with my mobo
It most certainly should.


My motherboard says 1200MHz on it...but I run 1066MHZ @stock :P with no side effects..lol
I stand corrected. Live and learn :).

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 04:54 PM
Since your processor is a retail processor it has a cpu heatsink/fan with it. You can buy what are called OEM processors which are like $10 cheaper but they do not come with heatsink.
so any processor that says
-retailnxt to it comes with a fan/heat sink so i dont need to get anopther fan..yes?

and with my current pc (the one in my sig.) i put two of the stock memery inside of it ...coz i got 2 of the same pc at one point and when one died the parts went to the still working one... well the thing has 3 slots so i filled the two...and then i found an old win 2000/xp....idk what it was coz there was 3 HDs in it..and i took out the ram... and i put it in the pc with 3 now but the pc seems slower....


org Ram-256mb 32mx64 sdram 133mhz,cl3

old ram i put in-128mb,sdr dimm,g....16zgs stk

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Since your processor is a retail processor it has a cpu heatsink/fan with it. You can buy what are called OEM processors which are like $10 cheaper but they do not come with heatsink.
so my Processor comes with a fan and what i need yes?...

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 04:59 PM
so my Processor comes with a fan and what i need yes?...

yes

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 05:01 PM
so my Processor comes with a fan and what i need yes?...
and whats a good site coz newegg has tax for NY....and im not paying tax if im getting it on line...tigerdirect is hard to navagate...

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 05:02 PM
yes
thanks... +1 for you good sir..

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 06:06 PM
and whats a good site coz newegg has tax for NY....and im not paying tax if im getting it on line...tigerdirect is hard to navagate...

That sucks. Does amazon charge tax?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_6488902_43?ie=UTF8&node=193870011&keywords=Case%2BFan&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1JBCJ95151EN2JGFBN7S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=409974201&pf_rd_i=193870011

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 06:11 PM
no,but then i would be paying more for shipping coz it would be from all diff. sites...

SOME ONE POST A GOOD SITE!
tiger direct is a rip off on the proc... it doesnt come with the fan and it cost more!...the same one ..but its not retail...and proc. r rip off every were else..

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 06:57 PM
does this link take you to all the stuff im getting?

http://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-order?unique=e083d&catalog=directron&et=488e0f45&basket=b%3D5C3c42bfd1015f3b488dffd8491540843bfd1c6 e042427340205bb0ba77022665%26l%3Dc8a434c0h8erx/o%26s%3DtLbqaUmzg_KEsTplcAlyC_s5iIU-

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 07:13 PM
shopping carts use cookies so it was empty.

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 07:26 PM
well directron was the only 1 besides newegg to have good prices on all the stuff... i matched every thing from newegg but the fan and the case... but i found a better case and a sweet looking fan that works with my mobo....

site rating:KS:KS:KS:KS:KS

works for me!


http://www.directron.com/

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 07:28 PM
shopping carts use cookies so it was empty.

you seem to have alot of pc tips you should message me a bunch of stuff like that

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 07:28 PM
+1

Erdaron
July 28th, 2008, 07:36 PM
There's also http://geeks.com/, I don't know where they ship from, but I think some of their prices are comparable to newegg. The site is also not much better organized than tigerdirect.

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 07:37 PM
yeah...but price wise i like it

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 07:53 PM
you seem to have alot of pc tips you should message me a bunch of stuff like that

While i'd love to I cant just give answers. You need to ask the questions first.

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 08:02 PM
While i'd love to I cant just give answers. You need to ask the questions first.
whats the point of RAM and y does the size matter if the pc is useing the harddrive for storage?

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 08:29 PM
RAM is much quicker than a harddrive. Data that is in use is stored in ram so that the CPU can access it quicker. Without ram the computer can still read from the harddrive but it would be much slower and you would get VERY poor computer performance. The reason why we dont use only ram and no harddrives though is because ram is much more expensive per GB. You can find harddrives for $0.16 per GB easy. RAM is more like $30 per GB. Also RAM does not retain data while it doesnt have any power. This means that if you turn off your computer all the stuff stored in the RAM is lost. Therefore it doesnt make a good storage medium.

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 09:01 PM
then how can the linux boot up so fast when i put it in to that one mode that turns the pc off...but boots off the ram for a instant start>?

tamoneya
July 28th, 2008, 09:07 PM
when linux boots up it has some preset files that it loads to RAM immediately. These are optimized for what linux needs to boot up. The things it needs first are loaded first and while the CPU is talking with the RAM the harddrive continues to load files into RAM.

mikedemario17
July 28th, 2008, 09:10 PM
oooo okay that makes sence

mikedemario17
July 29th, 2008, 03:47 AM
see new one--------->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872995