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Shippou
July 11th, 2008, 06:49 AM
Hello there! At last, after a very long period of inactivity, I am posting again here.

Could someone be kind enough to post what are the whereabouts of Hardy Heron? I am planning to upgrade, but this time not in KDE, but in GNOME (in short, I am switching from Kubuntu to Ubuntu). I cannot find a complete-enough (for me) documentation of what's new in Hardy Heron or something like that, even form the Canonical site.

Thanks in advance. :)
RiceMonster
July 11th, 2008, 06:59 AM
The biggest changes I remember are:

ufw (Ubuntu's now got a firewall by default)
PulseAudio (EXTREMELY buggy, glad I don't have that on my Arch install)
Wubi

For me, the hardware support was also better because I could use compiz (my Intel graphics chip was blacklisted before) and my sound card worked out of the box.

I recommend you back everything up and do a clean install if you're going to upgrade
bikeboy
July 11th, 2008, 08:11 AM
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804overview
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html
Shippou
July 11th, 2008, 09:45 AM
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804overview
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html


Thanks for the links. They really helped! :)

Which leads me to a question: which is better: a GNOME desktop or KDE desktop?
bikeboy
July 11th, 2008, 02:14 PM
That's almost a religous question.

If you have the bandwidth to spare try downloading the "Desktop' CD of both and having a play in live mode to see which you like more. KDE tends to favour configurability and gloss, Gnome simplicity takes a more reserved approach. They suit different people to a degree.
Seisen
July 11th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the links. They really helped! :)

Which leads me to a question: which is better: a GNOME desktop or KDE desktop?

Either one is fine it just matters which one you want to use. Try both of them and see which one you like the best.
hyper_ch
July 11th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Which leads me to a question: which is better: a GNOME desktop or KDE desktop?

Xfce
kevin11951
July 11th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Which leads me to a question: which is better: a GNOME desktop or KDE desktop?

oh god! not another gnome - kde thread! http://ubuntuforums.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
Shippou
July 11th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Hello...

I ended up with GNOME after all..

Well, I just upgraded to Ubuntu Hardy Heron last 9:00 pm (here in the Philippines). Although I have somewhat difficulty adjusting to the interface (partly due to my past experience in KDE), I find it faster than Kubuntu, though installing and removing programs in Kubuntu is simpler than in GNOME (in my opinion; I am using Synaptic).

I'll just try to enjoy it though... :)

For the one suggesting xfce, I have also tried it in the past, but disliked it immediately because of its "sparse" interface. But it is really a lifesaver for those having at the most 128MB of RAM, no?

Well, for those curious, I was posting in this forums beforehand (I mean before now) using Linux Mint Cassandra, which I find very slow. Super slow for me, indeed.
Shippou
July 11th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Hello again...

Guys, another question: which is better: dolphin or nautilus?

Personally, I like dolphin. But I want to hear what you want to say.

I am thinking if I should switch to dolphin again or retain nautilus.
aaaantoine
July 11th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Another new addition for Hardy is gvfs. While it does offer an improved infrastructure for handling file operations (the first time this is visible is when you have multiple operations going on at once), it is still buggy, breaking some aspects of FTP and Samba. At least, in my experience.
jespdj
July 11th, 2008, 10:42 PM
Guys, another question: which is better: dolphin or nautilus?
Stop asking those kind of "which is better" questions. There are people who like one, there are people who like the other.

The only way to find out which is better for you is by trying both out yourself and see what you like best.
LookTJ
July 11th, 2008, 10:55 PM
Either one is fine it just matters which one you want to use. Try both of them and see which one you like the best.
+1 I would have posted this.
gletob
July 12th, 2008, 05:09 AM
Hello again...

Guys, another question: which is better: dolphin or nautilus?

Personally, I like dolphin. But I want to hear what you want to say.

I am thinking if I should switch to dolphin again or retain nautilus.

Thunar I like it cause its lite
Ioky
July 12th, 2008, 06:15 AM
Stop asking those kind of "which is better" questions. There are people who like one, there are people who like the other.

The only way to find out which is better for you is by trying both out yourself and see what you like best.

Well, I think people ask those questions is just want to hear the pros and cons from the others. It is not really meant to put one on the top, and one into the trash. It is nothing wrong to hear others options.
hyper_ch
July 12th, 2008, 07:12 AM
Guys, another question: which is better: dolphin or nautilus?

Konqueror
K.Mandla
July 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM
I've dropped this one into Installation and Upgrades since it's ... mostly about installation and upgrades. :roll:
Shippou
July 16th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Hello again...

I recently downgraded to Kubuntu 7.10 (again). Hardy Heron just not works for me.
Reasons:
1. First installation - good. Second reboot - desktop takes "forever" to load.
2. Sometimes, my monitor acts as though it had encountered a huge static electricity when it reaches the logon screen.
3. Panel does not load up, even after "months" of waiting.
4. Partition problems encountered.
5. Screen resolution default: 1024:1206 )please correct me here.)

Maybe this problem is unique to me, but then I don't like it. I think I will wait for those problems to clear up before re-installing Hardy Heron again. Please notify me in case.