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miggols99
July 7th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Well I have always hated Comic Sans MS..it's so ugly! I see it everywhere, from at school, to businesses and posters. It makes me think "cheap", "unprofessional" and "boring". Does anyone else have a font they absolutely hate?

lzfy
July 7th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Everyone hates Comic Sans :)

fatality_uk
July 7th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Hate's a strong term. I dislike BitStream!

KingTermite
July 7th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Everyone hates Comic Sans :)+10000


I hate it because I used to love it (a looooooong time ago, like Win 3.1 days or maybe Win 95 days), but EVERYBODY started using it for EVERYTHING and it go so overused, I began to loathe it. I still loathe it to this day.

chucky chuckaluck
July 7th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Everyone hates Comic Sans :)

i don't. i like it. i hate terminus and zekton. they both say "i live in my parents' basement with all my star wars action figures".

joshdudeha
July 7th, 2008, 06:37 PM
UGH!!! Comic Sans MS is awful.
So is Impact.
I don't like the default theme in Ubuntu, it ****es me off everytime i see it.
I don't know why, but I have to change it lol.

Trebuchet MS is a nice them, a microsoft font I know-but nice nonetheless.

ice60
July 7th, 2008, 07:04 PM
there are some good articles about how microsoft made their own fonts to get by copyright costs. the fonts the made are almost clones of popular fonts, but to font experts they're really ugly.
http://www.urbanfonts.com/blog/arial-or-helvetica-take-the-test/
http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3599861

geoken
July 7th, 2008, 08:24 PM
There are sites and t-shirts devoted to the hate of comic sans. If you type 'comic sans' into google, the first link is for a site called Ban Comic Sans, the self proclaimed "source for anti-comic sans propaganda".

Jeff Rage
July 7th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Times New Roman!


Any of the Sans Serif fonts, including Comic Sans MS, are much easier to read.

And I like Comic Sans MS! :p

paul101
July 7th, 2008, 10:02 PM
i HATE times new Roman... it sucks

Mateo
July 7th, 2008, 10:08 PM
No, to me all fonts look more or less the same. I just pick whichever one is A) default or B) the most square/standard looking. I can't muster any emotions over a font.

Koori23
July 7th, 2008, 10:16 PM
CourierNew or any derivative of. Why? Unless you're actually USING a typewriter.. Don't use it!!!

LookTJ
July 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Well I dislike Times New Roman and all the Sans fonts. AquaBase is my font of choice even though it's a Mac font :).

http://www.osx-e.com/downloads/misc/macfonts.html

klange
July 7th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Comic Sans is a great font - if you're:
I. Writing a bad web comic, and
II. Too lazy to get a real comic script font, and of course
III. Using Windows

I despise Times New Roman. I don't understand why anyone would, in this day and age, want to use such a style in the first place, and even if they did, Times New Roman is one of the worst such fonts available.

TwiceOver
July 7th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Comic Sans is a great font - if you're:
I. Writing a bad web comic, and
II. Too lazy to get a real comic script font, and of course
III. Using Windows

I despise Times New Roman. I don't understand why anyone would, in this day and age, want to use such a style in the first place, and even if they did, Times New Roman is one of the worst such fonts available.

Ugh, Comic Sans is horrible. I worked for a company that the GM used that font exclusively in all memos, business letters, and emails.

regomodo
July 7th, 2008, 11:45 PM
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Cherry Cotton
July 7th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Papyrus. People who use this font think they are clever, original, or enlightened, I gather. It's so overused, people seem to slap it on anything halfway New Age-y and call it a day.

Bank Gothic is a great font, but it seems to have taken over building entrances and prime-time TV show credits, and it's getting old.

el_ricardo
July 8th, 2008, 12:24 AM
fonts that suck = MS fonts

cardinals_fan
July 8th, 2008, 02:00 AM
I hate all non-monospace fonts.

geoken
July 8th, 2008, 03:06 AM
wingdings

??

Is windings an 'actual' font. I thought it was just a collection of symbols that are frequently used for stuff like web design. It lets you use common icons without having to waste memory on a bunch of gif's/png's

Koori23
July 8th, 2008, 03:09 AM
Ugh, Comic Sans is horrible. I worked for a company that the GM used that font exclusively in all memos, business letters, and emails.

A General Manager used Comic Sans fonts in memos? Huh.. Did these memos also have the word "synergy" in it?.. That's like a double whammy right there.. I'd need professional help to work thru all that.

benny bronx
July 8th, 2008, 03:19 AM
I never liked the way Times New Roman looked, even when I used windows. My dislike of it really comes from the fact that it is the most widely used font in my profession, and I can not escape it or the squinting I must do to read it.

cardinals_fan
July 8th, 2008, 03:34 AM
A General Manager used Comic Sans fonts in memos? Huh.. Did these memos also have the word "synergy" in it?.. That's like a double whammy right there.. I'd need professional help to work thru all that.
Will you have those TPS reports ready for us this afternoon?

steveneddy
July 8th, 2008, 03:50 AM
i don't. i like it. i hate terminus and zekton. they both say "i live in my parents' basement with all my star wars action figures".

But terminus and zekton are so cool, dude!

I mean, just look at them!

cool.....

EDIT

zekton is now my new system font.

cooler......

Cherry Cotton
July 8th, 2008, 04:13 AM
I never liked the way Times New Roman looked, even when I used windows. My dislike of it really comes from the fact that it is the most widely used font in my profession, and I can not escape it or the squinting I must do to read it.

I'm curious to know what everybody's favorite replacements are for Times et al. I looked at my free serif fonts for a while and decided I like FreeSerif the best for my documents, but I use Bitstream Charter if I need something both pretty and readable at a distance (like on a poster), or highly "professional"-looking. (Thanks to Greasemonkey, I read the New York Times rendered in Bitstream Charter.) I also love Liberation Mono as a monospace font, its failure to distinguish 0 (zero) from O ("oh") notwithstanding.

FreeSerif is good stuff, I really like it. Liberation fonts are great but a little too thin and blocky for me. The Bitstream Vera fonts work well for UI, but seem a little too plain for much else.

smo0th
July 8th, 2008, 04:15 AM
times new roman suxx hard :mad:

Koori23
July 8th, 2008, 04:36 AM
Will you have those TPS reports ready for us this afternoon?

Yes Sir.. AND, I'll remember to put the correct cover sheet on it..

A little note here..

I just realized something. This thread represents the beauty of Linux. We're discussing fonts.. at length... Isn't that great? I mean, we aren't talking about defragging or "I just got a nasty bit of spyware".. We're talking about something as trivial as fonts. Kudos to the folks all around the globe who made this trivial argument possible. I certainly mean that. We aren't arguing about making the system work, we're arguing about tweaking it. That's amazing.

cardinals_fan
July 8th, 2008, 04:55 AM
Yes Sir.. AND, I'll remember to put the correct cover sheet on it..

A little note here..

I just realized something. This thread represents the beauty of Linux. We're discussing fonts.. at length... Isn't that great? I mean, we aren't talking about defragging or "I just got a nasty bit of spyware".. We're talking about something as trivial as fonts. Kudos to the folks all around the globe who made this trivial argument possible. I certainly mean that. We aren't arguing about making the system work, we're arguing about tweaking it. That's amazing.
That post looks great in Liberation Mono :)

Koori23
July 8th, 2008, 05:05 AM
That post looks great in Liberation Mono :)

Nah.. I think it looks better using Wingdings..

Whose bright idea was it to include those with Windows? I'm seriously asking.. That's just messed up.

OutOfReach
July 8th, 2008, 05:12 AM
I never liked the way Times New Roman looked, even when I used windows. My dislike of it really comes from the fact that it is the most widely used font in my profession, and I can not escape it or the squinting I must do to read it.

+1
I never did like Times New Roman.

zmjjmz
July 8th, 2008, 05:14 AM
I have to type all of my papers in Times New Roman.
I _hate_ it.
Zekton is my system font though, it's quite nice.

Masoris
July 8th, 2008, 05:41 AM
Why are you hate Comic Sans MS? This font is very fit with many case. Here is my recommendation.


Make 'Comic Sans MS' as your default font.
Download pinky theme from gnome-look.org and apply it.
Change your screen saver to 'FuzzyFlakes'.
Change your wallpaper to japanese 'nekomimi girl or nekomimi boy (http://images.google.com/images?imgsz=xxlarge&um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-GB%3Aunofficial&q=%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93%E3%81%BF%E3%81%BF&btnG=%EC%9D%B4%EB%AF%B8%EC%A7%80+%EA%B2%80%EC%83%8 9)'.
Make your firefox cute (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852020).

Then, you should love your desktop :KS

Lux Perpetua
July 8th, 2008, 06:23 AM
I don't like Bitstream Vera Sans Mono or DejaVu Sans Mono. I don't like the dorky "l" (lowercase ell) and the dotted zero. If it weren't for those, I think they'd actually be good fonts.

miggols99
July 8th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Well my favourite font to type with is Liberation Sans. And yes, Papyrus is overused. I've seen it in some movie credits..come on! A bit of originality please?

lisati
July 8th, 2008, 08:32 AM
Well I have always hated Comic Sans MS..it's so ugly! I see it everywhere, from at school, to businesses and posters. It makes me think "cheap", "unprofessional" and "boring". Does anyone else have a font they absolutely hate?


Everyone hates Comic Sans :)

I once saw Comic Sans used in the titles of a DVD - somehow, it didn't seem quite right

MONODA
July 8th, 2008, 08:45 AM
i hart arial :D. i also hate comic sans

Silpheed2K
July 8th, 2008, 09:57 AM
there are some good articles about how microsoft made their own fonts to get by copyright costs. the fonts the made are almost clones of popular fonts, but to font experts they're really ugly.
http://www.urbanfonts.com/blog/arial-or-helvetica-take-the-test/
http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3599861

interesting stuff... thanks for sharing.

Polygon
July 8th, 2008, 11:44 AM
I really have no preference when it comes to font, as long as its easy to read im ok with it. I tried a font on ubuntu, call purisa, and i found it annoying after a while cause things like 9 and 7 weren't distinguishable enough

geoken
July 8th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Whose bright idea was it to include those with Windows? I'm seriously asking.. That's just messed up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingbat

It's not meant to be switched to your default font. The point is to display high quality vector graphics in text based documents without having to import images. For example, If I wanted to put an arrow symbol beside a link it makes a lot more sense to have a dingbat font than it does to draw a png and try to insert that inline with the text.

Tom Mann
July 8th, 2008, 05:56 PM
I don't like... most fonts...

But seriously, I do like the Liberation fonts, and the Droid fonts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_fonts), I found it on a website...

The Droid fonts' license sadly is currently questionable, but downloadable via here: http://simos.info/blog/archives/648

ice60
July 9th, 2008, 10:05 PM
interesting stuff... thanks for sharing.

if you're interested in fonts there's a whole documentary about them! lol. it's called Helvetica, i quite liked it! :D

miggols99, was your arch install guide up about 2 years ago and then you took it down, or changed url? i think i might have used it. if it's the guide i'm thinking of i might follow it again, i really liked arch :)

Iandefor
July 9th, 2008, 10:18 PM
I absolutely hate Courier, and Arial, and Comic Sans.

I also hate the excessively-flourished typefaces you only ever see on tasteless wedding invitations. I have a friend who works at a letterpress and she has literally hundreds of them on her computer, not a single one looking remotely decent.

ism.
July 9th, 2008, 10:29 PM
I like arial more then Times New Roman because it looks like i wrote more then i did :)

Mateo
July 9th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Come on, how can you hate Arial. Look at this, it's about as standard as a font can possibly be. For those who hate it, please point out specific problems.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Helvetica-vs-arial.png

ice60
July 10th, 2008, 03:25 AM
Come on, how can you hate Arial. Look at this, it's about as standard as a font can possibly be. For those who hate it, please point out specific problems.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Helvetica-vs-arial.png
Arial is a nice font by itself, but, when you compare it to Helvetica, which it ripped-off, the few letters it did change aren't improved on.

i'm not a font expert, but, they say the cut off points are just random, whereas all Helvetica fonts are cut at right-angles.

you can compare all the fonts on this page, below, (it needs javascript enabled) you can see what i mean with the 'C's. Arial's start and finish at a random angle, Helvetica's 'C' is at a right-angle to the ground. does that make sense? lol, it probably explains it on the page.
http://ilovetypography.com/2007/10/06/arial-versus-helvetica/

EDIT: Coooool, you can drag the fonts on top of each other to compare them :D i'm starting to become a bit of a closet font lunatic i think

NxZDr
July 10th, 2008, 03:51 AM
I like URW Gothic... but I agree with the anti-Comic Sans sentiment... I always liked Monospace and Courier fonts.

steveneddy
July 10th, 2008, 03:56 AM
I just realized something. This thread represents the beauty of Linux. We're discussing fonts.. at length... Isn't that great?

What are you? Some kind of font nerd?

:D

NonPermissive
July 10th, 2008, 04:16 AM
Personally, I really hate Papyrus.

cookies
July 10th, 2008, 04:20 AM
I don't really hate many. Comic Sans is just annoying. Serif typefaces (like Times New Roman) are nice, even if they seem "outdated" compared to ultra-modern Sans-Serif typefaces. I really hate it when pratical fonts do not include bold and italic/oblique, though. (I can understand if you have a fancy font or are trying to cover all of Unicode, or CJK, Arabic, et cetera where it would be odd to read.)

jmedina
July 10th, 2008, 06:10 AM
I hate Times New Roman. My english teacher always used to ask me to use it and I hated it. Also, I agree I used to like Comic Sans MS, but I am now sick of it. I love Calibri.

miggols99
July 10th, 2008, 09:10 AM
if you're interested in fonts there's a whole documentary about them! lol. it's called Helvetica, i quite liked it! :D

miggols99, was your arch install guide up about 2 years ago and then you took it down, or changed url? i think i might have used it. if it's the guide i'm thinking of i might follow it again, i really liked arch :)
My website's changed to http://archux.com
I'm going to be updating the installation guide because the new version's out :)

Delever
July 10th, 2008, 10:45 AM
Why such font discrimination?

Iandefor
July 10th, 2008, 09:13 PM
Come on, how can you hate Arial. Look at this, it's about as standard as a font can possibly be. For those who hate it, please point out specific problems.Okay, I guess I don't hate it per se, but it made changes to Helvetica which didn't deserve to be made. My two biggest gripes with Arial are actually covered in the "How to Spot Arial" (http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html) article linked to earlier: The way the tail on the uppercase "R" just kind of "flops" out. It goes out straight an angle but it has a rather sharper curving to it near what's apparently called the bowl which implies it's going to go straight down. The impression it leaves me with is that the tail has no idea what it's supposed to be doing.

When the curve is followed by a tail that goes straight down as in Helvetica, it looks more like it knows what it's doing, even with the little rightward curve near the end.

Also, the angular top part of the lower-case "t" doesn't really fit in.

snork
September 22nd, 2008, 10:09 PM
today while shackled in my cube, i fully realized that I find all ms fonts to be quite fugly. i need a new job.