OMG..., i think all the big flash bugs were fixed :0

[madjr]

Please vote at the adobe website to get flash fixed!

main flash bugs (but please report any new bug you find):

Choppy and jerky compared to that of the "other" OSs:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-83
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-114
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-7

hardware acceleration does not work
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-205

javascript menus behind flash bug
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-120
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-80


If you ever had a crash or have seen flash eat up your CPU then why haven't you voted already?? :confused:

Aside from pulseaudio,
Slower the performance = more crashes.

really low number of voters....pitty.:(


Yeah, this bug is really annoying, i registered and left a comment, cuz i'm so sick of us linux users taking a back seat in adobes priorities

update: they are now looking into it (+20 votes), but priority is set to NONE, we need more votes so they can make it a priority for next version !

With 100 voters they might change it to mid or High !! Vote and spread the Word now !!



--UPDATE--

flash 10 BETA 2

try it yourself

http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/07/05/installing-flash-player-10-prerelease-on-linux/

fullscreen speed is better or fixed (on some video cards), javascript menus fixed (but some tearing) and most crashes :O

the dell website now works fine

1st tested in old PC with 256mb ram + geforce 5200. Flash 10 pre-release Works like a charm, fullscreen youtube goes fast. :)

2nd tested on Dell 1420 Dual-core geforce 8400GS + 1gb ram. For some weird reason Xorg process takes 50% CPU and goes really slow (with or without 3d effects). Re-installed Flash 9,0,48 and things are normal now... no flash 10 for this one :(

is it my Nvidia 8XXX card drivers that affect Xorg?

--Edit--

Never mind, Xorg only peeks on some websites, fullscreen youtube speed is doing fine, except some minor glitches.

Note: This has been a Win for the community. I would like to thank the people who reported and the hundreds who voted at Adobe.

[Polygon]

flash also needs to add pulseaudio support or somtehing cause when a flash video tries to play with other things using sound, it just freezes.

[jrusso2]

Yeah I had a feeling pulse was going to be a problem with flash. Anyways flash works ok for me does seem to use more cpu then it should seems to be the main issue I have.

[madjr]

this going to get bumped till a decent number of u vote.

I think it would be better of as sticky

[fedex1993]

The question is will this really actually fix flash. :guitar: :p

[madjr]

The question is will this really actually fix flash. :guitar: :p

they won't make it priority for next release if no one votes... don't you think?

they got a new bug tracking system to identify bugs based on Votes, so with at least 100 voters we should be good.

[Darkhack]

What we should be demanding is that Adobe open source the flash player. This is bull. They make their money by selling the Flash authoring tools, not the player. In fact they want to get the player out as much as possible so that people will use Flash. If 95% of home users didn't have flash, no one would use it. If Adobe open sourced it, we'd get a better quality player, people could ship with it by default, and that includes Windows and OS X shipping with it too. I really admire the Gnash and swfdec developers efforts. They're doing Adobe's job for them which is just pathetic on Adobe's part.

What we really need is a true, open standard to replace Flash. We have SVG but we need elements for audio and video (like in HTML 5) and ways to animate SVG and synchronize it to music and stuff. Basically it should be powerful enough to do everything that flash can but also more integrated into web pages. For example I can have HTML elements like drop downs and buttons that can communicate with the media and it's not confined to a box like flash is. The whole page can act like flash while still being plain HTML. Think of it like an HTML page with SVG graphics, animated with javascript, and audio controls so that background music is in synch too.

[Tomatz]

No photoshop after years of petitions and begging.

Useless slow acroread.

And now no flash?


Seems like a downward trend to me. Adobe have seen gnash and thought oh well lets save ourselves a few bucks.


:(

[billgoldberg]

2 of your links don't work.

Anyway, I've signed up and voted for the cause.

It's the only thing that ever bugged me about ubuntu. I watch a lot of flash content on lots of different sites.

[madjr]

2 of your links don't work.

Anyway, I've signed up and voted for the cause.

It's the only thing that ever bugged me about ubuntu. I watch a lot of flash content on lots of different sites.

retry now

[madjr]

What we should be demanding is that Adobe open source the flash player. This is bull. They make their money by selling the Flash authoring tools, not the player. In fact they want to get the player out as much as possible so that people will use Flash. If 95% of home users didn't have flash, no one would use it. If Adobe open sourced it, we'd get a better quality player, people could ship with it by default, and that includes Windows and OS X shipping with it too. I really admire the Gnash and swfdec developers efforts. They're doing Adobe's job for them which is just pathetic on Adobe's part.

What we really need is a true, open standard to replace Flash. We have SVG but we need elements for audio and video (like in HTML 5) and ways to animate SVG and synchronize it to music and stuff. Basically it should be powerful enough to do everything that flash can but also more integrated into web pages. For example I can have HTML elements like drop downs and buttons that can communicate with the media and it's not confined to a box like flash is. The whole page can act like flash while still being plain HTML. Think of it like an HTML page with SVG graphics, animated with javascript, and audio controls so that background music is in synch too.

i would settle with just a few bug fixes.

[jespdj]

I see so many people complaining about Adobe Flash crashing, or that it doesn't work properly or is hard to install, especially on 64-bit systems.

I wonder if I'm lucky, because I've never had much problems with Flash on 32-bit Gutsy and 64-bit Hardy on different computers. It's easy to install and works without crashing or other problems. I've never experienced the slow video problems as described in those bug reports (on Firefox 2 and Firefox 3b5).

Even though I don't have problems with Adobe Flash, I'd prefer an open source implementation. Unfortunately the current FOSS implementations of Flash (gnash and swfdec) aren't yet good enough to replace Adobe Flash.

[billgoldberg]

To help spread the word, I've put it on my blog.

If you have a blog (linux related or not) put it up there.

I want to see this fixed and the more people who vote, the faster it will get worked on.

(link to blog in sig)

[Slorg]

It may be a Noob question but how and where do you vote?

[madjr]

It may be a Noob question but how and where do you vote?

the Links are in the first post of this thread :)

if u need more help just ask

[madjr]

I see so many people complaining about Adobe Flash crashing, or that it doesn't work properly or is hard to install, especially on 64-bit systems.

I wonder if I'm lucky, because I've never had much problems with Flash on 32-bit Gutsy and 64-bit Hardy on different computers. It's easy to install and works without crashing or other problems. I've never experienced the slow video problems as described in those bug reports (on Firefox 2 and Firefox 3b5).

Even though I don't have problems with Adobe Flash, I'd prefer an open source implementation. Unfortunately the current FOSS implementations of Flash (gnash and swfdec) aren't yet good enough to replace Adobe Flash.

fullscreen youtube goes fast for u?

u should compare with windows flash to have an idea.

[madjr]

No photoshop after years of petitions and begging.

Useless slow acroread.

And now no flash?


Seems like a downward trend to me. Adobe have seen gnash and thought oh well lets save ourselves a few bucks.


:(

yea sadly, but if we don't vote we won't get any priority, we need to grab their attentions

[gardara]

Flash has been eating up my cpu since I upgraded to hardy. This needs to be fixed.

I just votend and am going to let some of my friends do so too.

[klerfayt]

why haven't you voted already??well. For a start I was not aware of Adobe's public bugtracker.
I only ever used their automated feedback form http://www.adobe.com/bin/fp9betafeedback.cgi quite some time ago.
But I gave my vote now for Flash movies over all the elements bug.

[ubuntu-freak]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but try the following to improve Flash performance:

sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common swfdec-mozilla && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport

The purge command is a "just incase" measure and the libflashsupport package adds PulseAudio support to Adobe Flash.

Nathan

[mgmiller]

sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common swfdec-mozilla && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport

I just checked my installed packages. I have a gutsy upgraded to hardy install. The only package I have is the flashplugin-nonfree. I do not have libflashsupport installed. I can watch youtube and google flash videos fine. Even full screen is good without skipping and properly synched sound. I looked in my System > Preferences > Sound and everything was set to autodetect. Trying the "test" tone produces a short skip, If I change to Alsa, the test tone plays cleanly. I tried changing the setting from autodetect to pulseaudio, which produces the skip with the test tone (telling me the auto setting is using pulseaudio) and went back to youtube and everything is still fine.

I decided not to install the libflashsupport package because I don't want to fix something that's not broken.

[madjr]

I just checked my installed packages. I have a gutsy upgraded to hardy install. The only package I have is the flashplugin-nonfree. I do not have libflashsupport installed. I can watch youtube and google flash videos fine. Even full screen is good without skipping and properly synched sound. I looked in my System > Preferences > Sound and everything was set to autodetect. Trying the "test" tone produces a short skip, If I change to Alsa, the test tone plays cleanly. I tried changing the setting from autodetect to pulseaudio, which produces the skip with the test tone (telling me the auto setting is using pulseaudio) and went back to youtube and everything is still fine.

I decided not to install the libflashsupport package because I don't want to fix something that's not broken.

you probably have v9,0,48 of flash

it's not the one we're talking about here.

we're speaking of the newer v9,0,115 and 124

just do a clean install of ubuntu and you'll see

[ubuntu-freak]

All you have to do is check the description of libflashsupport, it's not some theory I came up with. My Flash streaming worked (as PulseAudio does support apps wanting Alsa), but was very jittery at times before I installed libflashsupport.

Nathan

[z0mbie]

Solution:


sudo aptitude install libflashsupport

[ubuntu-freak]

Solution:


sudo aptitude install libflashsupport


I posted the most thorough solution on the previous page, that's what we were commenting on.

Nathan

Edit: This post


Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but try the following to improve Flash performance:

sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common swfdec-mozilla && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport

The purge command is a "just incase" measure and the libflashsupport package adds PulseAudio support to Adobe Flash.

Nathan

[mpince]

Adobe have apparently dropped the licensing fees surrounding swv & flv:

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/04/adobe-drops-lic.html

[mgmiller]

you probably have v9,0,48 of flash

No, I have v 9.0.124.
I did find that if I visited other flash sites, like:
http://ironmanmovie.marvel.com/
I do see the lagging and "slide show effect" that everyone is talking about. In fact, I just noticed that just having that tab open in FF while I was typing this reply, caused my keyboard to act laggy. As soon as I closed the tab, keyboard action returned to normal. Sound, however, seemed to be okay. Youtube and google videos continue to work fine.

Edit:
I just installed the liblflashsupport package, but it did not seem to have any effect on the above site.

[sloggerkhan]

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145367/adobe_establishes_open_screen_project_for_flash_ai r.html
Well, even if the haven't made their's open, they've at least legitimized open source implementations it sounds like?

[ubuntu-freak]

No, I have v 9.0.124.
I did find that if I visited other flash sites, like:
http://ironmanmovie.marvel.com/
I do see the lagging and "slide show effect" that everyone is talking about. In fact, I just noticed that just having that tab open in FF while I was typing this reply, caused my keyboard to act laggy. As soon as I closed the tab, keyboard action returned to normal. Sound, however, seemed to be okay. Youtube and google videos continue to work fine.

Edit:
I just installed the liblflashsupport package, but it did not seem to have any effect on the above site.


Did you purge/install flashplugin-nonfree as well? Sometimes worth doing after it's upgraded too, don't ask me why.

Nathan

[mgmiller]

I just voted on the Adobe site for the 2 bugs listed in the first post. Wow, the Adobe site really stinks!!! It's the slowest forum I have ever worked with. ](*,) Takes forever to load and save changes. Usually, I have to reload the page to see what happened.

[madjr]

I just voted on the Adobe site for the 2 bugs listed in the first post. Wow, the Adobe site really stinks!!! It's the slowest forum I have ever worked with. ](*,) Takes forever to load and save changes. Usually, I have to reload the page to see what happened.

yep kinda slow here too

[Bakon Jarser]

Now that Adobe has opened the flash API we should start seeing improved flash support. http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/

[digger95]

I'm running Flash under Zenwalk 5.0 and have not experienced the problems I did when I was running it under Ubuntu. For information purposes only, I did not install Flash from the repositories this time. I manually downloaded the file direct from Adobe and installed from source. Perhaps that makes the difference? F-ck I dunno. Worked for me though.

[ubuntu-freak]

I'm running Flash under Zenwalk 5.0 and have not experienced the problems I did when I was running it under Ubuntu. For information purposes only, I did not install Flash from the repositories this time. I manually downloaded the file direct from Adobe and installed from source. Perhaps that makes the difference? F-ck I dunno. Worked for me though.


Yes, it can work better. I had better results in Gutsy with the manual install method and added the install instructions to my how-to.

Nathan

[madjr]

I'm running Flash under Zenwalk 5.0 and have not experienced the problems I did when I was running it under Ubuntu. For information purposes only, I did not install Flash from the repositories this time. I manually downloaded the file direct from Adobe and installed from source. Perhaps that makes the difference? F-ck I dunno. Worked for me though.

which problems u didn't encounter and what version did you install?

[Slorg]

I voted ^^

[centered effect]

Now that Adobe has opened the flash API we should start seeing improved flash support. http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/

How about seeing an Open Source Flash Publishing Tool? I would rather see one of those first!

[FuturePilot]

I'm running Flash under Zenwalk 5.0 and have not experienced the problems I did when I was running it under Ubuntu. For information purposes only, I did not install Flash from the repositories this time. I manually downloaded the file direct from Adobe and installed from source. Perhaps that makes the difference? F-ck I dunno. Worked for me though.

The Flash package in the Ubuntu repos is no different than the one from Adobe. Actually the Flash package in Ubuntu doesn't even contain Flash player itself. All it is, is a script that downloads the tar.gz from Adobe and installs it.

[madjr]

The Flash package in the Ubuntu repos is no different than the one from Adobe. Actually the Flash package in Ubuntu doesn't even contain Flash player itself. All it is, is a script that downloads the tar.gz from Adobe and installs it.

oh yea forgot about that

[madjr]

How about seeing an Open Source Flash Publishing Tool? I would rather see one of those first!

same here

[gardara]

you probably have v9,0,48 of flash

it's not the one we're talking about here.

we're speaking of the newer v9,0,115 and 124

just do a clean install of ubuntu and you'll see

So if the problem is not with the old flash. Can't we just downgrade until a good version comes out?

[madjr]

So if the problem is not with the old flash v9,0,48. Can't we just downgrade until a good version comes out?

yes, you could downgrade manually. Especially if you need fullscreen flash video.

you'll have to grab it at the adobe website, they don't let anyone else host it.

[FFighter]

Good initiative, mate.

Please, everyone, VOTE TOO.

I really like the freedom GNU/Linux and FOSS gives me, however, one of my passions is the Flash Platform. Nobody could say that it isn't the best thing after sliced bread for creative programmers (aka Deselopers). I love the creative side of logic, I love to melt logic and design and make beautifully functional experiences, and that's what Flash allows us to do.

My passion is so great as to abandon Linux and go to Vista (argh) if Adobe ever stop supporting Linux. I would be pissed off, but... anyways, I really think Adobe should treat Linux as a 1st class citizen. I have voted in all the bugs and do really hope that all other members of this lovely forum do so!

It does not matter if you don't care becouse you know you care. You don't have to have worked or work with Flash. Great support for Flash is something Linux really needs, so, please get youserlf in the sight of the big corps.. vote!

And I do also hope that Adobe will release ports of Photoshop and Illustrator do Linux soon... I won't stop believing!

EDIT: Could someone with the proper rights make this post sticky?

[kindofabuzz]

the new Flash 10 test version works great.

edit: well it's flash 10 beta now. works even better. =)

[gardara]

the new Flash 10 test version works great.

edit: well it's flash 10 beta now. works even better. =)

I uninstalled flash completely and then installed the flash 10 beta... But after I did, flash didn't work... I tried both the tar.gz and pointed it to install in /usr/lib/flash
Also tried converting the .deb to .rpm with alien and installing it that way but it didn't work....

How did you get it working?

[kindofabuzz]

I uninstalled flash completely and then installed the flash 10 beta... But after I did, flash didn't work... I tried both the tar.gz and pointed it to install in /usr/lib/flash
Also tried converting the .deb to .rpm with alien and installing it that way but it didn't work....

How did you get it working?

I just uninstalled through synaptic then ran the install script that comes with it. or you just copy the .so file to wherever your plugins are. usually ~/.mozilla/plugins

[doorknob60]

I voted, Flash 9 kinda stinks, but my experiences with Flash 10 are better, but my good computer is...well...unusable right now so I can't test it much, I only used it like twice. I know it fixes some of the problems though.

[madjr]

I voted, Flash 9 kinda stinks, but my experiences with Flash 10 are better, but my good computer is...well...unusable right now so I can't test it much, I only used it like twice. I know it fixes some of the problems though.

what version of flash you have on your laptop?

[Tomatz]

I have found i kind of workaround its not a total fix but it seems to make flash run somewhat smoother. This is for those who are still using flash 9 from the repos.

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-firefox-crashes-on-flash-contents-when-using-libflashsupport-in-hardy.html

Hope that helps ;)

[ubuntu-freak]

Perhaps we should remind Adobe that Flash 10 in Linux can be accelerated with composite enabled (desktop effects). The Adobe devs have programmed Flash 10 to run unaccelerated if it detects composite. If you have effects disabled, then pause a Flash stream, it will carry on being accelerated when you enable effects and un-pause the stream.

Anywho, might as well post my Flash v10 beta installation instructions here. Run this command:

sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport

Now skip to the manual install method for Flash in Part 1 of my how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683), then download and install v10 beta.

Nathan

[methodmarvel]

I've voted. My firefox loves to randomly crash if I have flashplugin-nonfree and libflashsupport installed. Without libflashsupport I have to close all other sound programs and restart firefox to get flash sound to work - so it's not really an option.

If I only have flashplugin-nonfree though it does not crash as much as I am aware.

Either way - I'd like to see flash as well supported on linux as it is windows.

[gardara]

Perhaps we should remind Adobe that Flash 10 in Linux can be accelerated with composite enabled (desktop effects). The Adobe devs have programmed Flash 10 to run unaccelerated if it detects composite. If you have effects disabled, then pause a Flash stream, it will carry on being accelerated when you enable effects and un-pause the stream.

Anywho, might as well post my Flash v10 beta installation instructions here. Run this command:

sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport

Now skip to the manual install method for Flash in Part 1 of my how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683), then download and install v10 beta.

Nathan

Thanks for those instructions... Got flash player 10 working on firefox, but now I have no flash player with epiphany and with opera all I get is a gray box...
Do you know how I can fix that?

[Tomatz]

Thanks for those instructions... Got flash player 10 working on firefox, but now I have no flash player with epiphany and with opera all I get is a gray box...
Do you know how I can fix that?



sudo apt-get install mozplugger

should fix it ;)

P.s

To get flash working in opera you may need to type this in a terminal (try mozplugger first):


sudo ln -s ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Restart opera

Hope that helps ;)

[Zero Prime]

I would vote, but I don't have any problems with Flash. No more crashes and no jerkiness.

[ubuntu-freak]

Thanks for those instructions... Got flash player 10 working on firefox, but now I have no flash player with epiphany and with opera all I get is a gray box...
Do you know how I can fix that?


Are you a 32-bit or 64-bit user? The beta of Opera will work with Flash v10 beta. I'm slightly stumped by your Epiphany issue, as it uses the same engine as Firefox and uses the same plugins directory also. Try logging out or rebooting.

Nathan

[gardara]

sudo apt-get install mozplugger

should fix it ;)


that didn't change anything in epiphany or opera.. I still get gray boxes in opera and in epiphany I get a white window with "Click here to download plugin"


To get flash working in opera you may need to type this in a terminal (try mozplugger first):


sudo ln -s ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Restart opera

Hope that helps ;)


ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so': File exists


so that didn't change anything

[Tomatz]

Thats strange???

I cant see what would be causing the problem as the plugin is obviously in the opera plugin dir.

Also mozplugger is a plugin that consolodates all your plugins into one and shares them with your browsers. So you shouldn't have a problem with that.

All i can suggest is that you try to reinstall flash again.

[ubuntu-freak]

Also mozplugger is a plugin that consolodates all your plugins into one and shares them with your browsers.


Mozplugger allows you to view formats embedded in Gecko based browsers that aren't supported by them natively, such as PDF forms, by using the desktop application Document Viewer.

Nathan

[Choad]

just voted on all of em.

my god i wish they would hire 1 (yes, 1) decent coder who knows linux. that's all it would take. just have one guy hacking away making it run better on linux and i'd be happy.

it's quite obvious that the current linux release was however coded by an amoeba

[Tomatz]

Mozplugger allows you to view formats embedded in Gecko based browsers that aren't supported by them natively, such as PDF forms, by using the desktop application Document Viewer. It will also conflict with the Adobe Reader browser plugins, acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread.

Nathan

It also works with opera, which is not geko based ;)

[ubuntu-freak]

It also works with opera, which is not geko based ;)


That's often true with Opera.

nAtHaN

[geoken]

it's quite obvious that the current linux release was however coded by an amoeba


We'll with that said, I'm guessing a genuine multi-celled organism such as yourself should be able to reproduce, and surpass the work done by an amoeba in the better part of a day?

I look forward to seeing your SVG based flash alternative sometime this afternoon.

[Choad]

We'll with that said, I'm guessing a genuine multi-celled organism such as yourself should be able to reproduce, and surpass the work done by an amoeba in the better part of a day?

I look forward to seeing your SVG based flash alternative sometime this afternoon.
i don't have access to the source code or documentation. gimme that and for sure i'll have everything working in a day ;)

*feels confident his bluff cannot be called*

[FuturePilot]

Mozplugger allows you to view formats embedded in Gecko based browsers that aren't supported by them natively, such as PDF forms, by using the desktop application Document Viewer. It will also conflict with the Adobe Reader browser plugins, acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread.

Nathan

mozplugger does not conflict with any of those packages.

[Tomatz]

We'll with that said, I'm guessing a genuine multi-celled organism such as yourself should be able to reproduce, and surpass the work done by an amoeba in the better part of a day?

I look forward to seeing your SVG based flash alternative sometime this afternoon.


Well said ;)

[ubuntu-freak]

mozplugger does not conflict with any of those packages.


Which one would be used to display PDF documents within Firefox if both were installed? I'm on 64-bit and only have mozplugger installed.

Anyway, I was thinking of a different conflict I think. Past problems with mozplugger and mozilla-acroread were due to a bug.

[alexsabree]

Voted.. Hopefully everyone is voting, Adobe will have to eventually do something about it.

[gardara]

Got a strange problem with flash 10, I can't use the keyboard when playing flash games, I press the arrow keys that I am supposed to use and nothing happens... However flash games that only require mouse work well.

Anyone else experiencing this?

[Robux the great]

Can you believe it?

I didn't know about this

I will vote now

Regards

Rob

[gameryoshi600]

i heard flash 10 has good linux support.

[bruce89]

i heard flash 10 has good linux support.

In fact they said "Ubuntu OS support". Plonkers they be.

[gardara]

i heard flash 10 has good linux support.

Well atleast flash 10 doesn't have good linux support. Flash 10 is eating up my cpu, just as flash 9 did.... Let's hope that will be fixed before final.

[lswest]

voted on them all. Wonder if they'll do anything about it.

[madjr]

voted on them all. Wonder if they'll do anything about it.

yes, there's already one in high priority B

i think we'll see some improvements for flash 10 final

[keiichidono]

I just voted on them all, i hope everything gets fixed.

[sefs]

Has anyone posted this forum thread to dig?

[phaed]

Gnash might be at 1.0 stage by next year or the year after. Do you suppose Adobe doesn't give the Linux Flash Player high priority because they think people will flock to Gnash eventually? So why waste time fixing it.

[hanzomon4]

Will the OSS implementations be any better then Adobe's?

[madjr]

Gnash might be at 1.0 stage by next year or the year after. Do you suppose Adobe doesn't give the Linux Flash Player high priority because they think people will flock to Gnash eventually? So why waste time fixing it.

this comment is pro flash or pro gnash ?:confused:

[cardinals_fan]

The only Flash bug I've experienced is the way Flash content covers menus.

[yen223]

Got a strange problem with flash 10, I can't use the keyboard when playing flash games, I press the arrow keys that I am supposed to use and nothing happens... However flash games that only require mouse work well.

Anyone else experiencing this?

I have the exact same problem. Which is a shame, coz otherwise Flash 10 works perfectly fine for me.

[Brain-free]

Voted for the bugs. I don't think that this is the perfect solution though (give us stable versions every now and then) but it is better than what we have.

Hopefully, one day these problems will be history and there will be a poll where we can vote whether Adobe should or not make their source open. I'd like to see Bill Gates expression then... Guess for now I have to stick with splicing his face in porn movies. Ah well, c'est la vie...:grin:

[madjr]

try it yourself

http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/07/05/installing-flash-player-10-prerelease-on-linux/

fullscreen speed is better or fixed (on some video cards), javascript menus fixed (but some tearing) and most crashes :O

the dell website now works fine

1st tested in old PC with 256mb ram + geforce 5200. Flash 10 pre-release Works like a charm, fullscreen youtube goes fast. :)

2nd tested on Dell 1420 Dual-core geforce 8400GS + 1gb ram. For some weird reason Xorg process takes 50% CPU and goes really slow (with or without 3d effects). Re-installed Flash 9,0,48 and things are normal now... no flash 10 for this one :(

is it my Nvidia 8XXX card drivers that affect Xorg?


see my sign and report bugs before final release


Note: This has been a Win for the community. I would like to thank the people who reported and the hundreds who voted at Adobe.

[loell]

o rly? i wonder when will it reach my system as an update.. :O

[LaRoza]

I am using the new beta of Flash, and it seems to have problems with Firefox (I happened to be using Firefox to watch a lengthy Flash video, and didn't want to run it with the same browser I was using) and it consistantly crashed the browser. It worked fine in Opera though (same movie, even with many other tabs open)

[madjr]

I am using the new beta of Flash, and it seems to have problems with Firefox (I happened to be using Firefox to watch a lengthy Flash video, and didn't want to run it with the same browser I was using) and it consistantly crashed the browser. It worked fine in Opera though (same movie, even with many other tabs open)

i think this a new build 10,0,525

you might want to re-download it.

even the javascript menus don't get hidden anymore :)

[mrgnash]

There are still plenty of problems. I still can't get Adobe's own Acrobat.com to work, for instance.

[wdaniels]

o rly? i wonder when will it reach my system as an update.. :O

If you want to add Markus Thielmann's PPA (http://launchpad.net/~thielmann/+archive) to your software sources, you can just:


sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfreebeta

He seems to keep it updated with the latest beta as they get released.

[FFighter]

That's good news!

May I ask you a question? I have both version 9 and the older build of the version 10 activated as plugins in FireFox, do I need to de-activate them before installing the new build?

EDIT: I remember that the installer for the older v.10 build installed the plugin in a system-wide directory, and this one in particular wants to install in /home/user/.mozilla. Does anyone know why?

I'm asking this becous it seems the installation fails, as Firefox is still using the old build.

[PriceChild]

/me wishes bbc news' site would recognise the new version

[joshdudeha]

:O i can scroll down a page full of flash stuff and not be stopped when my cursor hits it.
Yay =]

[wdaniels]

That's good news!

May I ask you a question? I have both version 9 and the older build of the version 10 activated as plugins in FireFox, do I need to de-activate them before installing the new build?

EDIT: I remember that the installer for the older v.10 build installed the plugin in a system-wide directory, and this one in particular wants to install in /home/user/.mozilla. Does anyone know why?

I'm asking this becous it seems the installation fails, as Firefox is still using the old build.

I'm not sure how you managed to get both installed. It's best to stick to packages if you can. The flashplugin-nonfreebeta that I mentioned before conflicts with the v9 package (flashplugin-nonfree) so it wouldn't allow you to have both that way.

The place where these files usually live is ~/.mozilla/plugins and if I were you I would make sure you uninstall the standard flashplugin-nonfree package then delete any remaining flash plugin files from the plugins folder before installing any new one. I don't know if there might be a system-wide plugin location as well somewhere though.

I'm very happy to note that V4L2 seems to be working for webcams in this latest beta now.

[damis648]

Yayy!! It works! It's howdy-doodie time!:popcorn:

[bilal.17]

I've updated and it no longer crashes whenever i watch a flash video!!

[madjr]

Yayy!! It works! It's howdy-doodie time!:popcorn:

how about fullscreen youtube?

for some weird reason my old pc goes smooth, but my laptop (similar to yours, Xorg process spikes and slows the computer down...)

[FFighter]

I'm not sure how you managed to get both installed. It's best to stick to packages if you can. The flashplugin-nonfreebeta that I mentioned before conflicts with the v9 package (flashplugin-nonfree) so it wouldn't allow you to have both that way.

The place where these files usually live is ~/.mozilla/plugins and if I were you I would make sure you uninstall the standard flashplugin-nonfree package then delete any remaining flash plugin files from the plugins folder before installing any new one. I don't know if there might be a system-wide plugin location as well somewhere though.

I'm very happy to note that V4L2 seems to be working for webcams in this latest beta now.

Thanks for the reply.

In addition to the .mozilla directory under the home dir for the user, I've found instances of the libflashplayer.so in the following locations:

./usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
./usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
./usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Not sure which one is used by FF3, or if any of them is FF2-legacy or even the v.9 one.

I will try deleting all of them and restart firefox3 to see if it will then use the latest just installed build.

[damis648]

how about fullscreen youtube?

for some weird reason my old pc goes smooth, but my laptop (similar to yours, Xorg process spikes and slows the computer down...)

Aww darn!! :( I have a similar problem, but Xorg does not spike... the video controls just look really bad and the video is really jittery. When i try to close it, the video in the original applet on the page freezes, and so do the controls (although I can click on them, there is no visual feedback.):(:(:(

[damis648]

I am also getting wierd white lines on the top and bottom of certain videos, too. I guess I will just stick to Flash 9 for now.

[FFighter]

Thanks for the reply.

In addition to the .mozilla directory under the home dir for the user, I've found instances of the libflashplayer.so in the following locations:

./usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
./usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
./usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Not sure which one is used by FF3, or if any of them is FF2-legacy or even the v.9 one.

I will try deleting all of them and restart firefox3 to see if it will then use the latest just installed build.

Yes, just what I thought.

FireFox seems to search all these locations for plugins, and was loading all of them, so I had a v. 9, an old build of v. 10 (which was the one that FF3 insisted on using) and the latest b.525 of v.10.

I deleted all of them, and FF3 is now using the v.10, build 525.

Yay! I can see the official SPAM site correctly now! -> www.spam.com

The performance is not as smooth as it is on Windows, yet. But this was a significant improvement indeed. I'm happy!

[nilarimogard]

Well i'm still having the problem with flash behind javascript menus :( (Using Ubuntu Hardy x86)

[paul101]

my ubuntu flash has been working fine :confused:

[keiichidono]

Using flash 10 beta 2 here and i'm not having any problems. I used to installation guide in the media forum here to install it and i've been fine. I can't have more than one audio source being played by Pulseaudio though so having Rhythmbox and Youtube open doesn't work, my only complaint so far. Seems like Adobe is getting off their lazy **** and is finally doing something.

[madjr]

I am also getting wierd white lines on the top and bottom of certain videos, too. I guess I will just stick to Flash 9 for now.

i reinstalled flash 9,0,48 and that solved my issues (probably due to the video card: geforce 8XXX).

but am keeping flash 10 on my old pc which works really well with it's 5200

--edit--

for another weird reason flash 10 now works very good :)

[TheAL76]

I'm seeing a major slowdown when using Flash 10 on any sites using Flash.

I'm considering downgrading to 9.

Anyone else seeing this?

[phaed]

Yeah, it's running a little slower, but I'll take that over random crashes and sites diabled by the menus being hidden under flash objects -- any day.

[madjr]

I'm seeing a major slowdown when using Flash 10 on any sites using Flash.

I'm considering downgrading to 9.

Anyone else seeing this?

try disabling 3d effects and rebooting.

seems Xorg was using all my CPU now it's normal, this flash rocks :)

also remove the flash non free package in synaptic

[Kingsley]

/me wishes bbc news' site would recognise the new version
/me wishes cnn video would recognize the new version

[FuturePilot]

Well I'm gald Wmode Transparency is working. Finally! But there are still some issues. It still uses way too much CPU. It's reduced from Flash 9 but it's still too high. Also the hardware acceleration doesn't seem to work at all and it still randomly crashes. At least it doesn't freeze the browser like Flash 9 did.

[quanumphaze]

Well my experience it is worse than Flash 10 beta 1 that was used in one of the PulseAudio fixes.

I went to a page with lot's of embedded YouTube clips and it killed Swiftweasel. As a good scientist I tried it again and it stayed alive but X and Swiftweasel were melting my CPU just displaying the flash objects, not even playing them. And then closing the page killed Swiftweasel.

Sigh, downgrading to the previous beta I used. (10.0.218)

[Canis familiaris]

How could I configure it so that it works in Opera? It worked in Firefox for me and not in Opera.

[kindofabuzz]

10 beta 2 is worse for me than 9 was. I'll stick with beta 1

[kindofabuzz]

"For Linux, the hardware acceleration feature will not work if you are using a compositing window manager (compiz). In this case, Flash Player 10 Beta will always fall back to software. If you would like to test Flash Player 10 Beta on Linux, please disable your compositing window manager."

[medic2000]

Now i have voted for all of them.

[bash]

There is still no 64-bit version. And if you use compiz and try to watch fullscreen flash movies the flashplayer will fallback to software rendering instead of hardware. So the player still stays mostly useless.

[SlugO]

No OMGs here... Flash still has the same awful performance especially in full screen.

The strangest thing for me with Flash has been that the repo version worked fine for a while until one day it decided to start having performance problems. Neither of the new betas have fixed this.

[K.Mandla]

Similar threads merged.

[gaspard.leon]

wow... just downloaded this (using the ppa, thanks)

I can now watch full or normal screen you tube with fast performance and about 30 percent cpu usage.. used to clip at 100 percent in full screen with choppy performance.

www.toyota.com (flash with DHTML menus) actually works although due to lack of hardware acceleration for transparency and such, the performance blows but at least you can see the menu!!

(same for asus.com) although the DHTML over flash works, it's flickery and a bit buggy...

minor glitch: the preferences dialog still comes up with the security tab open with blank buttons but as soon as you click one it comes right.

I'm using NVidia 5900XT w. binary closed source drivers...
I'm NOT using compiz (it ruins totem and some other things for me)
I'm using Hardy w/ GNOME
I'm on 32 bits w. AthlonXP 3200+

well this is a big help... it doesn't solve every thing, but at least I can watch You Tube like windows users... lol

:popcorn:

[TheAL76]

try disabling 3d effects and rebooting.

seems Xorg was using all my CPU now it's normal, this flash rocks :)

also remove the flash non free package in synaptic

I'll give it a try when I get home, but I'd rather not have to disable 3D effects just to get Flash to work decently.

I'll probably just stick with 9 for now.

Progress is being made, but it's still not ready for primetime yet.

[quanumphaze]

Well I can't revert back to 10 beta 1, the PulseAudio fix thread gives a link to an auto installer for it that downloads the tar.gz file with libflashplayer.so and I no longer have the old one.
The problem is that they don't seem to be hosting beta 1 anymore so the auto installer gives "404 not found".

Does anyone know where I can find the older beta 1 libflashplayer.so file?

[mech7]

Does anybody else has problem with SIFR on the new beta?

[madjr]

Does anybody else has problem with SIFR on the new beta?

what is that

[Roasted]

No way... did I just install 64 bit Ubuntu to find out that flash 10 isn't supported by it?

Good thing I partitioned my home directory separately...

[wdaniels]

No way... did I just install 64 bit Ubuntu to find out that flash 10 isn't supported by it?

Good thing I partitioned my home directory separately...

Flash anything doesn't support 64bit anything, but 64bit Ubuntu supports flash 32bit via nspluginwrapper. I am using the latest flash 10 beta on 64bit Hardy.

[Roasted]

Does it run pretty smooth? Is there any drawbacks to running the driver in nspluginwrapper/64 bit versus just going with a straight 32 bit install?

[wdaniels]

Does it run pretty smooth? Is there any drawbacks to running the driver in nspluginwrapper/64 bit versus just going with a straight 32 bit install?

It's difficult for me to say comparatively because I've always used 64-bit. It has always seemed "smooth" enough (considering the general poor performance of flash under Linux anyway) but it has been a little unstable at times where I just get grey boxes and have to restart firefox. I don't think this has happened more recently though and it's always hard to know whether this is actually due to nspluginwrapper or not anyway.

If flash is something important to you, that you tend to use frequently for watching video on the net and stuff like that, then perhaps it is better to go with 32bit, but for more general use it certainly works well enough under 64-bit. I may not be the best person to answer really since I find flash quite objectionable and avoid it wherever possible.

The other option of course is to run a 32-bit browser on 64-bit, in which case nspluginwrapper is not needed and it should work exactly the same as on 32-bit Ubuntu normally. If you've already installed 64-bit Ubuntu then this is probably your best option should you find flash not working well enough for you. Nobody really needs a 64-bit browser and it's easy enough to just install the 32-bit version, either as well as or instead of the standard 64-bit firefox.

[Roasted]

Well, I watch youtube a lot... like you know how teenage girls are with myspace? That's how I am with youtube. If Flash 10 works as good as 9 does (and hopefully better) under 64 bit, I'd be happy with it. But if 32 bit is "far superior" for whatever reason, then that's the route I'd rather take.

[TheAL76]

No way... did I just install 64 bit Ubuntu to find out that flash 10 isn't supported by it?

Good thing I partitioned my home directory separately...

I thought there was some wrapper workaround.

[wdaniels]

I thought there was some wrapper workaround.

Yes, that is the "nspluginwrapper" that I'm talking about. It seems to work fine for me 99% of the time, but as I said, I don't use flash extensively.


Well, I watch youtube a lot... like you know how teenage girls are with myspace? That's how I am with youtube. If Flash 10 works as good as 9 does (and hopefully better) under 64 bit, I'd be happy with it. But if 32 bit is "far superior" for whatever reason, then that's the route I'd rather take.

32-bit is not "far superior" for flash. At best it's probably marginally faster and marginally more stable. As I said before, there's no real need to use the entire 32-bit Ubuntu distribution based on this - you can just use 64-bit and if you find flash support to be problematic in some way, there is always the option to install a 32-bit version of firefox, which will have the same effect.

[Yfrwlf]

How about seeing an Open Source Flash Publishing Tool? I would rather see one of those first!

Ditto. If the Flash file format is open then there should be open source tools for it. If not, an alternative to Flash should be come up with. Heh, how many of you thought "It would be cool if there was HTML for moving lines/shapes/graphics around on your screen, too." years ago? Too bad more developers didn't jump on that idea sooner so there would be an alternative to Flash.

Any way, I tried the newest player from here (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html) and Flash is much smoother now it seems, but I'm getting some weird white pixels distortion around any black areas, like along the bottoms and tops of movies that have black bars there. I'm using an ATI card with the closed source drivers (until the open ones support 3D better). :)

[madjr]

Any way, I tried the newest player from here (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html) and Flash is much smoother now it seems, but I'm getting some weird white pixels distortion around any black areas, like along the bottoms and tops of movies that have black bars there. I'm using an ATI card with the closed source drivers (until the open ones support 3D better). :)

yea, same here geforce 8XXX

it's not a driver problem

anyway i hope they fix that it's annoying sometimes (might have to make a new bug report if they aren't aware of it already).

at least performance is good

[PriceChild]

Seems like the flash10 beta 2 backport will/has been pulled for regressions.

[Richard9795]

Here in Mandriva is playing flash like it is on windows, WITH compiz enabled, but strangely, on ubuntu, its slow, just like what others are complaning about with compiz enabled. keep in mind that I'm using an Eee pc. something else is going on here too, not just the support, but something else too.

[philcamlin]

i ahd that in my old ubuntu 8.10 install now in 9.04 its all good :):popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: