Editor Flamewar (Vim is the best)

[LaRoza]

One more besides Emacs and Vim is Nano. Its the easiest to use of the three.

(nano is with pico on this scale)

It has nothing to do with being "easy".

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[Alasdair]

Do not listen to the vim users and their lies! Emacs is the one true editor! Why use irrsi when Emacs is the best IRC client there is? Emacs also makes a great web-browser, and you could probably hack up a twitter-mode pretty quick. Plus with shell-mode on offer, you'd never need to leave Emacs at all - 30 days of Emacs I say!

[loell]

Funny that, I haven't ever gotten nano to successfully save a file. VIM is easy.


sometimes simpler things are easily overlooked. :D

ctrl + o

[klange]

Funny that, I haven't ever gotten nano to successfully save a file. VIM is easy.

+1 for FINCH
+1 for screen (this one is a lifesaver)

... did you type Ctrl+X, type a name, and hit enter... or Ctrl+O? Exiting Nano will prompt you to save any changes. It's pretty simple for me. When I'm looking for a no-frills editor, I use Nano. If I'm looking for extras, I look towards a GUI.

[smartboyathome]

Funny that, I haven't ever gotten nano to successfully save a file. VIM is easy.

+1 for FINCH
+1 for screen (this one is a lifesaver)

Just use sudo nano /patch/to/file, and then control+x, and press y and enter to save the file if it is outside of your ownership, do the same without the sudo if it is in your ownership.

Funny thing is, I never could get VIM to work properly. VIM just made everything funky, and its hard to get used to.

[LaRoza]

Do not listen to the vim users and their lies! Emacs is the one true editor! Why use irrsi when Emacs is the best IRC client there is? Emacs also makes a great web-browser, and you could probably hack up a twitter-mode pretty quick. Plus with shell-mode on offer, you'd never need to leave Emacs at all - 30 days of Emacs I say!

It isn't an editor. Read your post again, this person intends to use Linux, not Windows/OS X/Emacs.

If the OP wanted a bloated OS, then I would recommend Emacs, but for an OS + editor combo, Linux + Vim.

[LaRoza]

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[smartboyathome]

It isn't an editor. Read your post again, this person intends to use Linux, not Windows/OS X/Emacs.

If the OP wanted a bloated OS, then I would recommend Emacs, but for an OS + editor combo, Linux + Vim.

lol, emacs isn't all that bloated, it is just many things in one. Its just for another person's taste. Try them all and see which one you like. I can pretty much guarentee it will be nano. :p

[undertakingyou]

... did you type Ctrl+X, type a name, and hit enter... or Ctrl+O? Exiting Nano will prompt you to save any changes. It's pretty simple for me. When I'm looking for a no-frills editor, I use Nano. If I'm looking for extras, I look towards a GUI.

yeah, but how is that easier that :wq?

[smartboyathome]

yeah, but how is that easier that :wq?

It is for me, because I don't like having to remember the 50 million options that Vim provides, plus vim has a funky way of entering stuff and backspacing etc.

[LaRoza]

lol, emacs isn't all that bloated, it is just many things in one. Its just for another person's taste. Try them all and see which one you like. I can pretty much guarentee it will be nano. :p

I guess we have different definitions of "bloated". "many things in one" IS bloated.

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[LaRoza]

yeah, but how is that easier that :wq?

:wq? isn't an option. :wq is, and you can use the "!" to force it.

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Ed is the standard editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html

[Alasdair]

Emacs has several mail modes, I'm pretty sure rmail should be installed by default. Just type M-x rmail from within emacs.

[LaRoza]

Ed is the standard editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html

Figures, someone always brings that up.

Now I will finish the game.

I use butterflies.

(But in the end, Vim is unquestionably the best editor. Anyone willing to dispute this will be...dealt with :evil:)

[LaRoza]

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[zmjjmz]

I'll just stick to nano and gedit kthx.

[chucky chuckaluck]

"nano, nano!"

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Figures, someone always brings that up.

Someone had to. Seriously though, it's got to be vim.

[Lostincyberspace]

wow this is the best flamewar I have seen in a long time Keep it up.

[cardinals_fan]

Those learning curves are very accurate. Notepad has very little to learn, Pico has a little more, Visual Studio destroys your mind if used for extended periods of time, Vi/vim is vertical at first, but easy after you learn it, and Emacs is completely psychotic. Kind of like Ion... :twisted:

[LaRoza]

Those learning curves are very accurate. Notepad has very little to learn, Pico has a little more, Visual Studio destroys your mind if used for extended periods of time, Vi/vim is vertical at first, but easy after you learn it, and Emacs is completely psychotic. Kind of like Ion... :twisted:

Yeah, the more you use Emacs, the less you can use it (because it is customized so much the default Emacs is unknown again)

[-grubby]

Kate FTW!!! /me dunks from all the CLI editor users

[LaRoza]

Kate FTW!!! /me dunks from all the CLI editor users

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[schauerlich]

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O NOES! Not Nathangrubb!

[-grubby]

O NOES! Not Nathangrubb!

YAY!! People defending me against the evils of Laroza

[LaRoza]

YAY!! People defending me against the evils of Laroza

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[RiceMonster]

Vim, no contest. Nano doesn't have the functionality, and emacs... I don't see why I need to be able to play tetris with a text editor.

[schauerlich]

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I can't seem to find that .gif where the admin kicks a user in the face and the mod cheers him on, but I meant to post it here...

[-grubby]

I can't seem to find that .gif where the admin kicks a user in the face and the mod cheers him on, but I meant to post it here...

I've got it!

[conehead77]

I use butterflies.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/real_programmers.png

[MONODA]

yeah, but how is that easier that :wq?
or just :x I love vim. I use vim for all my typing, I even use it to type in text boxes on the web with kazehakase. I also use it to type up my documents with the LaTeX plugin. i also love folds.

[samjh]

I used Emacs for a semester, then forgot how to use it one week after it finished.

Vim for the win! (Hah, it rhymes!)

:popcorn:

[Barrucadu]

I generally use Gedit, but between Vi/Vim and Emacs, I prefer Emacs. In fact, I'm just removing Gedit and installing Emacs now :)

[LaRoza]

I generally use Gedit, but between Vi/Vim and Emacs, I prefer Emacs. In fact, I'm just removing Gedit and installing Emacs now :)

O rly?

I am removing a certain user from the forum...

</joking>

I like using Gedit with the terminal plugin, you can use Vim from within Gedit!

[cardinals_fan]

If somebody wanted an alternative OS complete with games, psychiatrist, and everything else, then I'd wholeheartedly recommend Emacs. As a text editor... not so much.

[Barrucadu]

O rly?

I am removing a certain user from the forum...
Please, no your borgness! It's only a matter of time before I try Vim anyway - I get bored very fast.

[spupy]

I like Geany! :twisted:

EDIT: Look at screenshot, doh!



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[Dr Small]

Please, no your borgness! It's only a matter of time before I try Vim anyway - I get bored very fast.
Lol. :D
I am a strong vim user, and use it for ALL of my text editing. I don't even own a GUI text editor, and I think I removed nano..

Dr Small

[cardinals_fan]

I like Geany! :twisted:
Geany is a fine IDE, but as a text editor? Not for me...

[nrs]

Christians should contemplate using a less blasphemous editor, lest they be damned for all eternity. Consider: VI VI VI

[LaRoza]

Christians should consider using a less blasphemous editor, lest they be damned for all eternity. Consider: VI VI VI

Emacs is a religion: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/

Christians shouldn't use such things.

[nrs]

Emacs is a religion: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/

Christians shouldn't use such things.

Vi is a cult. Being recognized as a religion, it has some aura of legitimacy.

[spupy]

Geany is a fine IDE, but as a text editor? Not for me...

Didn't you see the screenshot I attached? :)

[Barrucadu]

I... I'm sorry, I just comitted a terrible atrocity. See the attached screenshot...

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I... I'm sorry, I just comitted a terrible atrocity. See the attached screenshot...

Uh oh. Your computer is going to explode now.

[Barrucadu]

I know. I closed it very quickly and performed an exorcism on the computer, but I'm not sure if it was enough. It's also gone all cloudy suddenly - it's connected!

[days_of_ruin]

Vi is a cult. Being recognized as a religion, it has some aura of legitimacy.
-1:mad:

[Dr Small]

-2

[Lostincyberspace]

I use scite for a text editor for programing since it has syntax highlighting and I have been using it for years because it is portable.

[raul_]

vim FTW

Emacs is a great OS, only lacking a good text editor :popcorn:

[cardinals_fan]

Didn't you see the screenshot I attached? :)
I didn't see what you were doing. That's an abomination! No mixing text editors!

I... I'm sorry, I just comitted a terrible atrocity. See the attached screenshot...
What's wrong with that? You're running Vim, the ultimate editor, inside a perfectly good OS, Emacs.

[doorknob60]

Nano is a lifesaver when I get stuck without a GUI. I used to only know about vim, and I screwed up so many config files that way :D Nano works fine for everything I need, and I don't want to have to waste my time learning vim or emacs when nano does everything the way I'm used to it :) Vim is confusing, and emacs had to download like 80 megs of crap :lolflag: It's a text editor, WTF? I use Kate sometimes too, but nano is still ownage.

[Pogeymanz]

Aw darn... I use emacs...:oops:

I thinks all of its extra stuff is fun, but I don't use most of it.

I find emacs a much more intuitive and useful text-editor than all the ones with "regular" key-combos, like notepad, gedit, geany, etc.

I'm impressed and frightened by vi, unfortunately. Can someone explain why vi is so great? I use emacs only because it's what everyone I work with uses, so they taught me some tricks with it.

[cardinals_fan]

I'm impressed and frightened by vi, unfortunately. Can someone explain why vi is so great? I use emacs only because it's what everyone I work with uses, so they taught me some tricks with it.
Once you learn the vim key combos, it's amazing how many shortcuts you can take. Editing with vim is fast, simple, and clean.

[chewearn]

What's a vim, and how does it differs from vi ?

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What's a vim, and how does it differs from vi ?

vim is Vi IMproved.

From wikipedia:

Features and improvements over vi

Vim is almost fully vi compatible when in compatible mode, but Vim has many enhancements over vi which may or may not be available in compatible mode.[8]

Some of those enhancements include completion, comparison and merging of files (known as vimdiff), a comprehensive integrated help system, extended regular expressions, scripting languages (both native and through alternative scripting interpreters such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Tcl, etc.) including support for plugins, a graphical user interface (known as gvim), limited integrated development environment-like features, mouse interaction (both with and without the GUI), folding, editing of compressed or archived files in gzip, bzip2, zip, and tar format and files over network protocols such as SSH, FTP, and HTTP, session state preservation, spell checking, split (horizontal and vertical) and tabbed windows, unicode and other multi-language support, syntax highlighting, trans-session command, search, and cursor position histories, multiple level undo/redo history, and visual mode.

While vi was traditionally only available on Unix operating systems, Vim is very portable; there are versions for AmigaOS (the initial target platform), Atari MiNT, BeOS, MS-DOS, Microsoft Windows 95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008, IBM OS/2 and OS/390, MorphOS, OpenVMS, QNX, RISC OS, Unix, Linux, BSD, Mac OS and Mac OS X, etc.[9]
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[chewearn]

vim is Vi IMproved.

From wikipedia:


Ah so. Thanks for the explanation.

vi is text editor and little else. vim is more like a programming ide. Got it.

[Saint Angeles]

gedit


all the way

[p_quarles]

vi is text editor and little else.
Blasphemy!

That's like saying "water is a liquid, and little else." While both are true, the dismissive tone is highly misleading. Both Vi and water are necessary for life as we know it.

[toupeiro]

I learned emacs before vi(m), but once I learned vi(m), I never looked back. I even have vi(m) embedded into my tcsh shell

[wrtpeeps]

If I ever have gui problems and need to be editing files, then I look no further than nano.

Other than that, gedit!

[mrgnash]

Gedit or nano. Vim is too weird.

[Tigershell]

Another for nano... :KS

[qazwsx]

echo "my text file">textfile
sed is one nice for fixing

:lolflag:


OK kate(parts) for me. nano for cli usage

[Mazza558]

Microsoft Word FTW!

...*hides*

[moore.bryan]

+1 scite

[dizee]

Nano is the only one I can make sense of. Not that I do much editing through the terminal anyway, we're not all programmers you know. :D

[zmjjmz]

Programmers use Notepad++
(it runs perfectly in WINE)

[RiceMonster]

Programmers use Notepad++
(it runs perfectly in WINE)

I'd use that if I were using Windows. It's a good editor.

[InfinityCircuit]

I use vim. I used to be a strug user who just knew a few commands, but then I read vi for smarties and was hooked. I have read about ten percent of vim-doc but i can already do so much stuff in it. Bootstrapping Gentoo with only nano is so hard!

[Barrucadu]

Programmers use Notepad++
(it runs perfectly in WINE)
It does? I really liked that editor and missed it greatly when i first switched.

[Frak]

I use Notepad++ on everything now.

[sujoy]

vim ftw.

[LaRoza]

Microsoft Word FTW!

...*hides*

Not worth hiding, that is so silly no one is going to take that seriously ;)

[klange]

It does? I really liked that editor and missed it greatly when i first switched.

Should work fine. Used to be a bit slow, but that was a long time ago...
It's too bad Notepad++ is so connected to the Win32 API that it can't be directly ported.

[Frak]

Not worth hiding, that is so silly no one is going to take that seriously ;)
lol

I can see the compiler right now

&fontspace - make [3] not a recognized function
make [1] exiting

[LaRoza]

Should work fine. Used to be a bit slow, but that was a long time ago...
It's too bad Notepad++ is so connected to the Win32 API that it can't be directly ported.

It is based on the same thing as Scite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_(editing_component)

[klange]

It is based on the same thing as Scite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_(editing_component)

Hm? I'm simply referencing something said by the original author a while ago on the site. The rest of the app, outside the actual editor, is highly tied to the Win32 api.