converting windows codes to linux [Archive]

LoneWolfJack

June 9th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Sure. Reprogram it from scratch.

Microsoft .NET is platform dependent, especially when it comes to GUIs.

Mono can compile C# under Linux but I don't think that will get you very far with a GUI.

However, you may htry to compile it for windows and tweak it until it runs with WINE.

x88a

June 9th, 2008, 02:38 PM

LOOOOL
no way i am going to program that huge complicating program from scratch.

However, you may htry to compile it for windows and tweak it until it runs with WINE.

could you please state the procedure?
tq

Frak

June 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM

Let's get this MinGW bus on the road!

By that I mean you'll need to install MinGW cross-developing compiler/libs to be able to compile for a Windows system.

If your up to it, just say and I'll help, but it'll be a pretty long procedure.

LoneWolfJack

June 9th, 2008, 02:46 PM

could you please state the procedure?

Compile the code under windows.
Move the exe to linux and run it with WINE.
Check the WINE error messages.
Change the code to avoid the problem.
Compile it under windows.
Move the exe to linux and run it with WINE.
Check the WINE error messages...

x88a

June 9th, 2008, 02:58 PM

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 03:09 PM

Wouldn't adapting it to work in Mono be a lot more easier?

LaRoza

June 9th, 2008, 03:17 PM

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818192

With no knowledge of C# and programming, you will not be able to do this.

I see so many of your threads about mono, and posting errors. You will not be able to do anything this way.

If you can't run the Windows app in Wine, try to find a Linux alternative or use Windows for this app (in a VM even)

You aren't going to be able to get this working by posting errors on this forum, please don't try.

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 03:25 PM

You aren't going to be able to get this working by posting errors on this forum, please don't try.

Thank you for your encouragement, but I think that if you simply ignored this thread, it would have been a lot more productive.

Frak

June 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM

x88a

June 9th, 2008, 03:32 PM

i do have knowledge in programming.
i did C++ and a bit of javascript and Ruby before.
it is just that i am new to C#.
i am confident i can do it.
So pls teach me

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 03:59 PM

While I'd recommend that you use C++ on Linux, or anything else but C#, C# is still a very viable choice on Linux. Look here (click (http://www.monodevelop.com/Main_Page)) to get started on it.

x88a

June 9th, 2008, 04:05 PM

While I'd recommend that you use C++ on Linux, or anything else but C#, C# is still a very viable choice on Linux. Look here (click (http://www.monodevelop.com/Main_Page)) to get started on it.

i am using C# because the available Windows source code i have is C#

KingTermite

June 9th, 2008, 04:23 PM

You aren't going to be able to get this working by posting errors on this forum, please don't try.
Then what is the point of this forum existing at all? Might was well chuck it.

LaRoza

June 9th, 2008, 04:36 PM

Thank you for your encouragement, but I think that if you simply ignored this thread, it would have been a lot more productive.

I noticed that all the other threads on this same issue (a Windows program in C# not working in Linux) have no responses and the ones that do, have no fixes posted. Productivity isn't shown in the other threads also on this same issue.

i do have knowledge in programming.
i did C++ and a bit of javascript and Ruby before.
it is just that i am new to C#.
i am confident i can do it.
So pls teach me

There is more to it than the language, C#. The program you are using is apparently using non standardized libraries, probably highly specific to Windows. C# itself is easy to learn, the rules are very similar to C++ and Java.

So, to get this project working on Linux, I would recommend contacting the original developer of this open source project. You will also need to study how it works.

Then what is the point of this forum existing at all? Might was well chuck it.

Look at the other threads started (all the ones about mono or C#). Do you see a pattern?

The OP doesn't know C# or anything about mono, doesn't know how the application works, and doesn't know (or didn't) how to use the repositories to install needed libraries. The reason I made the post was to help end the pointlessness.

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 04:50 PM

Canonical is paying for the forum storage, so don't worry about some extra posts for help. Someone might come by and answer.

KingTermite

June 9th, 2008, 04:57 PM

canonical Is Paying For The Forum Storage, So Don't Worry About Some Extra Posts For Help. Someone Might Come By And Answer.

Lol +1

Can+~

June 9th, 2008, 05:34 PM

If you made your own C# project on windows and then port it to windows, is likely that it will run, since, you know how it works.

Trying to understand someone else's project (the bigger, the worse) when not knowing the language, and trying to fix it via trial and error it's the highway to voodoo programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_programming).

Try to run it in wine (wine is in the repository), or in virtual box. If you want to learn C#, start from the bottom, build your own application, and try to port it then.

LaRoza

June 9th, 2008, 06:10 PM

Canonical is paying for the forum storage, so don't worry about some extra posts for help. Someone might come by and answer.

It has nothing to do with storage. Doesn't anyone else see the futility of this? An unknown project of unknown scope written in C# for Windows, being ported by someone who doesn't know C# and doesn't understand the code and starts many threads without giving context to the problem?

@OP Instead of making a thread every error, you'll be better off providing the project's name, homepage (with source code), and keeping everything together. There is a reason you aren't getting anywhere with this.

With no knowledge of C# and programming, you will not be able to do this.

If you can't run the Windows app in Wine, try to find a Linux alternative or use Windows for this app (in a VM even)

Try to run it in wine (wine is in the repository), or in virtual box. If you want to learn C#, start from the bottom, build your own application, and try to port it then.

In otherwords...

Phenax

June 9th, 2008, 06:18 PM

LaRoza

June 9th, 2008, 06:26 PM

Canonical is paying for the forum storage, so don't worry about some extra posts for help. Someone might come by and answer.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5148786&postcount=5

et tu, Vadi?

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 06:43 PM

Yeah, I didn't tell him to give up and go away, I provided him a resource on more help.

KingTermite

June 9th, 2008, 06:52 PM

Yeah, I didn't tell him to give up and go away, I provided him a resource on more help.
Exactly!

I think people should ask all the questions they want. If its too much in scope or there are better resources to help OP discover their answers, then those can be posted.

Sometimes a link to a good reference can be just as helpful as "knowing" the answer.

x88a

June 9th, 2008, 06:56 PM

wow....it is nice to see this thread so active now.
i will try what you all suggested.
stay tuned :)

LaRoza

June 9th, 2008, 09:10 PM

Yeah, I didn't tell him to give up and go away, I provided him a resource on more help.

I didn't say that, I just gave things he can do, instead of trying to do things he can't do.

Trying it on Wine, running it in Windows, and running Windows in a VM are all things to consider to get this working, instead of not getting it work...

lisati

June 9th, 2008, 09:22 PM

How do you port an application from one operating system to another?

You learn the programming language and make sure it is intended for the platform you are porting it to.
You find the platform-specific libraries that are used in the project, and then find the code that relies on this.
You find libraries that work on your platform and then begin converting the platform-specific code to use this library.

Hopefully the original progam is sufficiently well-structured so that the GUI-related and OS-specific stuff is sufficiently separated from the "meat and bonens number crunching" parts of the code

I didn't say that, I just gave things he can do, instead of trying to do things he can't do.

Trying it on Wine, running it in Windows, and running Windows in a VM are all things to consider to get this working, instead of not getting it work...

This option might be a better place to get started for the novice programmer trying to adapt software.

Vadi

June 9th, 2008, 09:36 PM

I didn't say that, I just gave things he can do, instead of trying to do things he can't do.

Oh? Well I think you did, and here's what I'm referring to:

You aren't going to be able to get this working by posting errors on this forum, please don't try.

I understand your pessimism, and I don't think it's doing any help at all, even if you claiming that it's for the better.

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 07:34 AM

So, to get this project working on Linux, I would recommend contacting the original developer of this open source project.

i have contacted the original developer and they gave me the source code.
They dont offer Linux support.

Try to run it in wine
unfortunately, Wine doesnt support it.

@OP Instead of making a thread every error, you'll be better off providing the project's name, homepage (with source code), and keeping everything together. There is a reason you aren't getting anywhere with this.

i am trying to create a viewer in Linux for an ethernet camera.
http://www.smartnd.com/sites/products/smart_cams/
i have the source code for the viewer in windows XP

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 09:27 AM

By that I mean you'll need to install MinGW cross-developing compiler/libs to be able to compile for a Windows system.

for cross-developing compiler, do i need a the windows OS in my comp?
my comp only has Linux.

If your up to it, just say and I'll help, but it'll be a pretty long procedure.
awaiting orders from you :)
i am now reading up on WinGW

scourge

June 10th, 2008, 10:46 AM

for cross-developing compiler, do i need a the windows OS in my comp?

No, you don't need Windows. That's whole point of using a cross-compiler. But I don't see any need for MinGW here.

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 11:20 AM

No, you don't need Windows. That's whole point of using a cross-compiler. But I don't see any need for MinGW here.

what would you suggest me to do then?

scourge

June 10th, 2008, 12:36 PM

what would you suggest me to do then?

What others have already suggested: learn some C#, bring the code to Monodevelop, and make the changes that you need to compile a Linux binary. MinGW is only for compiling Windows binaries, which you don't need.

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 12:38 PM

ok
could you pls go to www.monodevelop.com ?
can you access it?
i dont seem to be able to access the website
tq

LaRoza

June 10th, 2008, 01:39 PM

ok
could you pls go to www.monodevelop.com ?
can you access it?
i dont seem to be able to access the website
tq

http://lwn.net/2000/features/Axis/

It may be possible to get this working without a special application (note, above article is for a specific camera, but the concepts are likely the same)

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 01:53 PM

http://lwn.net/2000/features/Axis/

It may be possible to get this working without a special application (note, above article is for a specific camera, but the concepts are likely the same)

reading it now :)

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Instead, you have to configure your system to give an IP address to the camera via either ARP or BOOTP. ARP is the simpler solution

does anyone know of any manual which can teach me how to do this?
tq

pmasiar

June 10th, 2008, 02:56 PM

With no knowledge of C# and programming, you will not be able to do this.

Recently, we have flooding of posting where people want to move app from Win to Linux without any clue about what obstacles they have to overcome. MSFT created whole industry based on platform lock, with many decisions made for deliberate incompatibilities with older, and more mature, Unix/Linux platform. Starting with picking \ as path delimited, which was used for decades in Unix as escape char (\t is tab, etc.). So of course you will have problems with porting - it was the whole point in developing Windows/.NET platform! Vendor lock!

We here use Linux because we want to use linux, and want to use tools native to linux. Java is the cross-platform C# you are looking for.

You aren't going to be able to get this working by posting errors on this forum, please don't try.

While I understand the spirit (yet another C# post going nowhere), "please don't try" feels wrong. Anyone should have opportunity try, and strive, maybe fail, but has chance to learn and win. I would not hold my breath, but maybe you can win. But:

does anyone know of any manual which can teach me how to do this?
tq

this approach shows that OP is just a wannabe, furiously thanking anyone supporting his quixotic quest, but without basic Google-fu skills. A leech, possibly. Let him live, maybe s/he is up to something. Maybe new influx of C#/VS lovers can help him to get off the ground.

LaRoza

June 10th, 2008, 03:07 PM

While I understand the spirit (yet another C# post going nowhere), "please don't try" feels wrong. Anyone should have opportunity try, and strive, maybe fail, but has chance to learn and win. I would not hold my breath, but maybe you can win. But:

I think I was the only one to see that all the threads started in this forum by the OP were all related.

See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823365&page=2

This is a larger program, with many threads that do not give the context. It isn't just an "error" it is part of a bigger picture.

I don't think the OP is going to get this working, especially by making lots of threads on it. Making lots of threads on one topic is against the Code of Conduct anyway, and it is just wasting people's time.

pmasiar

June 10th, 2008, 04:09 PM

especially by making lots of threads on it. Making lots of threads on one topic is against the Code of Conduct anyway, and it is just wasting people's time.

That's completely different issue then. Leech, breaking CoC!

x88a

June 10th, 2008, 09:15 PM

I don't think the OP is going to get this working, especially by making lots of threads on it. Making lots of threads on one topic is against the Code of Conduct anyway, and it is just wasting people's time.

but those 2 threads arent the same, correct?
if it aint allowed, i wont do it again
sorry

pmasiar

June 11th, 2008, 03:58 AM

It always helps to at least link to other thread, so ppl can get relevant background - humans rarely have perfect memory like LaRoza, and may not link your two posts together as relevant.

Make no mistake: we want to help people, but we want to help people who want to help themselves. We can show the way, but you have to do the learning - and show certain drive. Nobody has time and passion to teach you page by page - you go to school for that, and pay.

How to become a hacker (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html). And hacker is not cracker. :-)

x88a

June 11th, 2008, 07:15 AM

OK, i will keep that in mind next time :D

Yes, so pls show me guidelines on how to convert the codes.
i m giving my best.

TQ

thornmastr

June 11th, 2008, 03:14 PM

OK, i will keep that in mind next time :D

Yes, so pls show me guidelines on how to convert the codes.
i m giving my best.

TQ

I think you misunderstood. Pimsy will help you as will almost anybody provided you show some work of your own that attempts to solve your stated problem. So, please show us what code you have converted and what about that code is not working properly.

slavik

June 11th, 2008, 03:24 PM

Recently, we have flooding of posting where people want to move app from Win to Linux without any clue about what obstacles they have to overcome. MSFT created whole industry based on platform lock, with many decisions made for deliberate incompatibilities with older, and more mature, Unix/Linux platform. Starting with picking \ as path delimited, which was used for decades in Unix as escape char (\t is tab, etc.). So of course you will have problems with porting - it was the whole point in developing Windows/.NET platform! Vendor lock!

MSFT copied CPM's path delimeter (which is \). At the time, CPM was the big single user OS (a separate instance of it would run on an IBM 370 mainframe for every user).

LaRoza

June 11th, 2008, 05:41 PM

MSFT copied CPM's path delimeter (which is \). At the time, CPM was the big single user OS (a separate instance of it would run on an IBM 370 mainframe for every user).

Wrong. QDOS copied CP/M and Microsoft bought QDOS and renamed it. (basically, you forgot the guys in the middle)

pmasiar

June 11th, 2008, 05:54 PM

I do not recall original CP/M (for i8080) having directory structure, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M supports my hunch. Looks like directories were added only to CP/M-86, which has to compete with MS-DOS, but that was too late. When MS-DOS appeared on market, Unix was 12 years old -- all clues support my version of timeline. Do you have better resources?