Rhythmbox Roadmap

[b3n87]

Hi guys

I must admit, I've grown to like Rhythmbox, i never used to like it but I do now.

Anyway I was just wondering, does anyone know what they have in mind for new features in rhythmbox, I cant find anything.

On a second note, what would you like to be added to Rhythmbox if it was up to you?

But more im more curious on my first point, anyone know whats to come?

[swoll1980]

Equalizer, I want it. I don't know if it's coming, or not

[b3n87]

yeah my friend wants that badly to. hes a recent ubuntu convert and was surprised that it didnt have one.

your sig quote is classic btw

[RiceMonster]

Equalizer, I want it. I don't know if it's coming, or not

Agreed. If an audio player has no equalizer, I immediatly uninstall it. I also had problems editing tags in Rhythembox. Untill both those problems don't exist, I won't use it.

[swoll1980]

your sig quote is classic btw

Yeah. W is quite the character.

[swoll1980]

Agreed. If an audio player has no equalizer, I immediatly uninstall it. I also had problems editing tags in Rhythembox. Untill both those problems don't exist, I won't use it.

Yeah I use Exaile. It's a nice GTK music player with an eq

[banjobacon]

Someone developed a Rhythmbox equalizer plugin, but I'm not sure if it works. http://cs.helsinki.fi/u/ttokalli/rb-plugins/

[geoken]

Just tried the plugin, it works but it's not ideal.

To access it you need to go to plug ins > equalizer > configure, there's no panel or menu shortcut for it. Also, the changes aren't live. You need to make changes, then disable and re enable the plugin. Also, the disable-re enable cycle will make the current track restart.

[banjobacon]

Just tried the plugin, it works but it's not ideal.

To access it you need to go to plug ins > equalizer > configure, there's no panel or menu shortcut for it. Also, the changes aren't live. You need to make changes, then disable and re enable the plugin. Also, the disable-re enable cycle will make the current track restart.

No wonder it never worked for me. I didn't bother dis-/re-enabling. The again, I don't really use equalizers, so I didn't really care much. This seems to be an important feature for many people, though, so maybe someone with know-how and free time will spot this plugin and contribute to it. Maybe bugzilla will draw more attention to it.

[banjobacon]

I guess one feature I'd like to Rhythmbox is better tagging fuctionality. I currently use Ex Falso for tagging/remaning, but I'd prefer to just use Rhythmbox, if they could duplicate the functionality in a sane interface.

[geoken]

I found this on launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~jmillikin/rhythmbox/equalizer-plugin

I'm in the same boat as you though, I've never really thought twice about an equalizer.

[pt123]

There was plans to add glitz features i.e. coverflow. There was a page detailing it (don't have the link to it).

Other ideas included adding tags like how you tag mail in Gmail. I.e. you can have multiple tags for a song. There by building more complex smart playlists.

[hanzomon4]

Why is everything audio related painfully difficult on linux, like getting an eq or god forbid listening to more then one thing at a time?

[swoll1980]

If you want an eq use Exaile as far as listening to more than one thing at a time I've done it a few times on accident, and it worked fine, though I don't know why someone would choose to hear several things at the same time.(I get enough of that from the kids) That's the great thing about people, they are a unique in there own way.

[grossaffe]

one feature i'd like is for it to not crash when i plug in my mp3 player.

[AmishFury]

proper replaygain support... if exaile's playlist sorting wasn't so [hurrrr] and if it didn't slow down anytime i try to do anything with my 4000+ track playlist i'd be using it purely on proper replaygain options (ability to choose between album or track gain, preamp gain, gain adjustment for files without replaygain tags... rhythmbox only has a hidden checkbox but it handles my library and sorts my playlist properly)

[muep]

The developers of Rhythmbox have said that there is no intention of getting an equalizer into Rhythmbox. Instead, if an equalizer is needed, it would be much more efficient to make it a Pulseaudio plugin, so that every player wouldn't need to duplicate the effort.

Rhythmbox is meant for searching and playing music, not fine-tuning your audio system.

[50words]

The developers of Rhythmbox have said that there is no intention of getting an equalizer into Rhythmbox. Instead, if an equalizer is needed, it would be much more efficient to make it a Pulseaudio plugin, so that every player wouldn't need to duplicate the effort.

Rhythmbox is meant for searching and playing music, not fine-tuning your audio system.

Good point.

[geoken]

Rhythmbox is meant for searching and playing music, not fine-tuning your audio system.

While I never wanted an equalizer, I can understand where those people are coming from and I think you've mis-characterized them with the above comment.

It isn't about wanting the audio player to fine tune the audio system. It's about wanting song by song control over how music sounds. I have some songs/DJ sets where the bass is simply too heavy and I get a much better listening experience turning that songs bass down. The very next song could be the opposite, with highs that are too high. I don't think they care how it's being done (ie. equalizer built into app, or app leveraging some system wide equalizer by having the ability to control it). All they really want is for the audio player to have control over equalization on some level because it's unlikely that a system wide equalizer will have the ability to remember equalizer settings for a specific song and mod the equalizer when said song is playing.

[banjobacon]

proper replaygain support...

How do you set replaygain values? On Windows, I'd use foobar2000, but I haven't found a comparably simple solution for Ubuntu.

[AmishFury]

How do you set replaygain values? On Windows, I'd use foobar2000, but I haven't found a comparably simple solution for Ubuntu.

exaile has full replay gain options
audacious has full replay gain controls
rhythmbox is an on/off checkbox you can get to with gconf-editor (i assume it uses track gain)


it's all about the player you use

[banjobacon]

exaile has full replay gain options


How do I set replaygain values in Exaile? In foobar2000, there was an option in the context menu: I'd select songs, right click, click "Set Album Gain" or something like that, and the program would calculate the values and write them in the tags. I don't see anything in Exaile or Rhythmbox that does this; as far as I can tell, they only read replaygain tags.

[pt123]

me to have been wondering how to do this

[quinnten83]

i would like the coverflow plugin to work right and better playlist handling.

[AmishFury]

no idea how one would set replaygain values in linux... i do all my ripping and encoding in windows

[Larir]

Random by album not just by song (selects a random album, plays all the songs on it and randomly selects the next album).

I guess that's all. That's the only feature I'd rather use Amarok for :D

Hmm, otherwise I think Rhythmbox is quite good for me. I don't have an mp3 player so don't know how those things work with the box. It's good for playing anything I have... oggs, mp3s, etc.

Ya, I think random by the album should make me happy. Maybe I should ask for it...!!!

Oh yeah, the cover plugin ***** up sometimes and brings the wrong cover for an album...

edit: Thought of another thing... A choice for when you press the X to close the application it won't close but minimize it to the systray. I know it's not much 'cause you can just click the tray icon anyway, but at first I didn't know such a thing was possible and would always accidentally close the box when I was supposed to minimize it... Just something for the people that're used to winamp I guess.

[pt123]

I did a fewe searches you can do replaygain by using a package called mp3gain
This article has instructions on how to use it
http://www.linux.com/articles/59957

[af20001]

If you encode to FLAC, you can use the built-in metaflac tools to set replay gain.

On an album by album basis you can run:

metaflac --add-replay-gain *.flac

within the folder containing the album.

If you want to apply it to your whole collection, this should work:

ls $dir/*.flac >/dev/null 2>&1 && metaflac --add-replay-gain $dir/*.flac

VorbisGain is also available for running against .ogg files.

Both metaflac and VorbisGain do not change the actual audio files, they just insert tags containing the volume adjustment levels.

[banjobacon]

I did a fewe searches you can do replaygain by using a package called mp3gain
This article has instructions on how to use it
http://www.linux.com/articles/59957

MP3gain write ape tags rather than id3v2 tags, which can cause some confusion in some mp3 players, apparently. I was playing around with it last night, and it seems to work well, otherwise.

I also read that LAME does some sort of replaygain analysis, but I'm confused as to whether it writes the tags in such a way that players can use them to apply the proper gain.

[knavarathna92]

support for video podcasts and music videos. I realize that rythymbox is an audio player but If it's also intended for management of some music players, I would like to manage it in one application. Currently I have to use Rythymbox for audio, Gpodder for podcast syncing, GTKpod for music videos and Gpixpod for photos. Rythymbox is nice, it just needs to grasp the more advanced needs of it's users.:)

[quinnten83]

Rythymbox is nice, it just needs to grasp the more advanced needs of it's users.:)

It's a gnome application they don't do advanced!!!

[banjobacon]

I did a fewe searches you can do replaygain by using a package called mp3gain
This article has instructions on how to use it
http://www.linux.com/articles/59957

So, I've decided to go with mp3gain. Can someone who is bash literate tell me what the command given in the article will do?


find . -name *mp3 -exec mp3gain -a -k {} \;

Will this command: (1) go through my collection of mp3s of albums, kept in separate folders, and analyze each album separately; or (2) analyze all the mp3s it finds as one huge album?

EDIT: I decided to test it out on a small collection of albums. The command gets mp3gain to analyze files one by one (not what I want), not as albums (what I do want).