Firefox 3 release candidate released!

[El King]

The first Release Candiate is OuT!
Life Hacker (http://lifehacker.com/391458/firefox-3-release-candidate-1-released)

Release Notes! (http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0/releasenotes/)

Let's try it out!

[NightwishFan]

Nice! :guitar:

[ghindo]

When will it hit the repos?

[prshah]

The first Release Candiate is OuT!
Let's try it out!

Unfortunately, it's not in the repositories yet, and FireFox's help->check for updates is greyed out; apparently in ubuntu the acceptable method is to upgrade through the update manger only..

[barbedsaber]

my check for updates button is greyed out.

[vishzilla]

it should be in the repo in a day or two aint it?

[JorritL]

I hope it's better than the one shipped with Ubuntu 8.04. It doesn't even start the default FF3.0B5! It just sits there "Starting Firefox", the text disappears and nothing happens. When I install Firefox 2 I can only start it as root...

For that, I am tempted to "downgrade" back to 7.10 as UB804 has given me nothing but headaches. Certainly not something that I would dare to call a release :-(

[mech7]

:( yes its kinda aannoying the upgrade button is greyed out

[retrow]

Firefox in Ubuntu has always been this way. The update button is always gray. Firefox updates show up as new update notification once it has been added to the repositories. It takes a day or two or three at the most. And if you can't wait, you can always remove the installed FF3 and get RC1 from Mozilla's website (in reverse order, of course).

[klange]

Back in beta, Hardy always got FF3 updates within a week. I'll wait.

[Half-Left]

Dudes, it's easy to try out if you can't wait, just download the tar and run it from the directory.

[barbedsaber]

I don't think I will, until I know how many of my add-ons will work.

[Nerrep]

Excellent. I hope gmail will be usable again...

[Mazza558]

I don't think I will, until I know how many of my add-ons will work.

Out of all my addons, only Adblock Plus works.

[rune0077]

The current Hardy version is already rock solid and very fast on my end. Is anyone seeing any major improvements for the RC?

[sancho panza]

:( yes its kinda aannoying the upgrade button is greyed out

Thats bcos firefox (and other programs) by default do not run as root. If you run firefox as root from terminal, the update button is not greyed out, but clicking it finds no updates. I guess thats becos ubuntu firefox is customised to check for updates in the ubuntu repos.

Be patient, it should be updated in ubuntu soon (I hope :) )

[34.50]

On Windows, it acts much better than 3b5, hopefully this will be avaliable as an update in Ubuntu

[ghindo]

How do I compile FF3 RC1 from source? If I do compile it from source, what are the drawbacks/benefits as opposed to installing from the repos?

[Xfcn]

I'm going to let the HH team put RC1 through its paces before I let my systeem upgrade. Right now the main problem I'm having with Firefox on my Dell Inspiron E1505 is some pretty severe lags where it'll hang up the entire browser for five to fifty seconds. Usually Flash is somehow involved, but not always. Makes it annoying as hell to try to listen to Pandora.

[sports fan Matt]

Has RC1 hit the repos yet?

[forrestcupp]

Guys, I hate to break it to you, but it's never going to be in the main Hardy repos. Once they put on the feature freeze during the beta, that's it for the duration of that release. They only do security updates, etc.

Our best bet is to hope it gets into the Proposed updates repo.

[janz84]

That sucks... is it the same policy when FF3 goes gold?

[profjohn]

Excellent. I hope gmail will be usable again...

I tried it out and finally GMail was usable again, I think the Firefox b5 was better than Firefox 2 for everything apart from a couple of sites like GMail, now that's fixed too it's great. :)

[kxmas]

Guys, I hate to break it to you, but it's never going to be in the main Hardy repos. Once they put on the feature freeze during the beta, that's it for the duration of that release. They only do security updates, etc.

Our best bet is to hope it gets into the Proposed updates repo.

Don't be silly, supporting only security updates on Firefox beta 5 for over two years would be extremely difficult and a waste of effort. I imagine that the codebase has changed significantly between beta 5 and rc1. Figuring out how to back port security patches from the main FF 3 branch to the beta 5 would be maddening.

They're supporting Firefox 3, not a specific release of Firefox 3

[profjohn]

Guys, I hate to break it to you, but it's never going to be in the main Hardy repos. Once they put on the feature freeze during the beta, that's it for the duration of that release. They only do security updates, etc.

Our best bet is to hope it gets into the Proposed updates repo.

Why can't it go into the updates repo? With Firefox 2 they put all of those updates into the repos apart from those they deemed to have no security benefits. For it to be a successful LTS I can't see them sticking to a beta when a full release comes out. or even with this RC as it's much better than its predecessor.

[Erunno]

Guys, I hate to break it to you, but it's never going to be in the main Hardy repos. Once they put on the feature freeze during the beta, that's it for the duration of that release. They only do security updates, etc.

Our best bet is to hope it gets into the Proposed updates repo.

Doubtful, as the major reasons for including a beta version of Firefox 3 was the ability to profit from upstream bug and security fixes as the support for Firefox 2 will run out at the end of the year and Canonical will have to support 8.04 for 3 years.

So, it's pretty certain that the final version of Firefox 3 will find its way into the update repositories over time.

[drascus]

I just can't wait for the final new release of FF3. I just hope that Ubuntu gets it into the Repos quick when the final version is out.

[rune0077]

I tried it out and finally GMail was usable again, I think the Firefox b5 was better than Firefox 2 for everything apart from a couple of sites like GMail, now that's fixed too it's great. :)

What was the issue with gmail? I have had no problem with it at all.

[profjohn]

What was the issue with gmail? I have had no problem with it at all.

The scrolling was very slow, GMail wasn't the only site suffering from it but it was the most significant for me. Other sites also slowed slightly if GMail was open but the most significant effect was that scrolling in GMail was a slow process and bit jumpy.

[rune0077]

The scrolling was very slow, GMail wasn't the only site suffering from it but it was the most significant for me. Other sites also slowed slightly if GMail was open but the most significant effect was that scrolling in GMail was a slow process and bit jumpy.

Hmm, I rarely use gmail, but I haven't experienced this. I'm still on the beta (Hardy version), just tested it, and scrolling seems fine on my end.

[leamanc]

I'm sure it will be in the repos by Wednesday the 21st at the latest. Anyone saying Hardy will be stuck at FF3b5 is wrong.

I've got all my favorite extensions installed, fine-tuned and working nicely, after struggling somewhat with b3 and b4. All in all, I have *no* problems with b5, so if it's going to break extensions, I'd almost rather not upgrade!

Still wanting to try it out though, but I'll just do it on my Mac Book Pro running Leopard. :)

[phaed]

The scrolling was very slow, GMail wasn't the only site suffering from it but it was the most significant for me. Other sites also slowed slightly if GMail was open but the most significant effect was that scrolling in GMail was a slow process and bit jumpy.

I use the Older Version, which works fine.

[Nerrep]

Hmm, I rarely use gmail, but I haven't experienced this. I'm still on the beta (Hardy version), just tested it, and scrolling seems fine on my end.The problems only occur for the people for whom Gmail has been updated to the latest version - Google have been rolling it out iteratively, rather than all at once.

Going back to the old version in the top right does fix it, but only until you log out and in again.

Glad to hear it fixes the problems.

[babylon2233]

I can't stand keep using Firefox 3b5. It just keep freezing all the time. It is better if i call it Mozilla Freezefox. I hope update will be available soon

[matthias_k]

Does anyone here have any experience with RC1 already? I am wondering if the following has been fixed/changed, things I considered quite annoying:

1) The huge font in download manager; ugly...
2) The fact that the one-click bookmark star icon will always save the bookmark in a folder which is not accesssible via the "Bookmarks" menu item (super-annoying, one has to go through "Organize bookmarks" first and move the bookmark...)

not to mention the various crashes and freezes I had been experiencing, particularly in conjunction with Adobe Flash Player.

Apart from that, FF3 is a very decent upgrade from version 2. But the lack of available plugins makes it absolutely useless for me unfortunately (I need Firebug for Web development).

[david.rahrer]

The fact that the one-click bookmark star icon will always save the bookmark in a folder which is not accesssible via the "Bookmarks" menu item (super-annoying, one has to go through "Organize bookmarks" first and move the bookmark...)
I actually like this. It keeps me from creating a growing cache of unorganized bookmarks which I just keep using them from there. This way I have a nice incentive to stop procrastinating and put them in their proper places ;)

Making it an option would probably be sensible, if it isn't already (have you checked about:config?

[noynac]

Does anyone here have any experience with RC1 already? I am wondering if the following has been fixed/changed, things I considered quite annoying:...2) The fact that the one-click bookmark star icon will always save the bookmark in a folder which is not accesssible via the "Bookmarks" menu item (super-annoying, one has to go through "Organize bookmarks" first and move the bookmark...)...

There is a very simple extension that does nothing more than add an "Unfiled Bookmarks" entry to the Bookmarks menu. This can be found at:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7269

BTW, I agree with you that this is something that should be included in Firefox at least as an option. Perhaps it is in RC1.

[FuturePilot]

Guys, I hate to break it to you, but it's never going to be in the main Hardy repos. Once they put on the feature freeze during the beta, that's it for the duration of that release. They only do security updates, etc.

Our best bet is to hope it gets into the Proposed updates repo.

This would totally defeat the original purpose of shipping with Firefox 3 in the first place. One of the reasons was so that Firefox 2 wouldn't have to be maintained after its EOL. That's what happened with Dapper. By including the almost complete Firefox 3, it would make it very easy to upgrade to the final Firefox 3. Nothing would have to be recompiled against a new Xulrunner since the code base is already there. Whereas say Hardy shipped with Firefox 2. Then we would not see Firefox 3. There would be too much work involved in recompiling all dependencies against Xulrunner.

[matthias_k]

Very good point.

[olskar]

I have been told that Firefox RC1 will not be in the repos. When final version of Firefox comes, it will be in the repos.

[Nerrep]

I have been told that Firefox RC1 will not be in the repos. When final version of Firefox comes, it will be in the repos.

http://i.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/ck/07/11/cranberry-sauce-ck-1673016-l.jpg

?

[olskar]

http://i.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/ck/07/11/cranberry-sauce-ck-1673016-l.jpg

?

:shock:

[FuturePilot]

http://i.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/ck/07/11/cranberry-sauce-ck-1673016-l.jpg

?

wat? :-k

[-grubby]

wat? :-k

I'm not sure but...that looks good

[Nerrep]

I'm not sure but...that looks good

It's cranberry sauce.

Or more specifically, a request for a source for the information contained within the quoted statement :p

[olskar]

It's cranberry sauce.

Or more specifically, a request for a source for the information contained within the quoted statement :p

That would be bazhang on #ubuntu :)



askand: Firefox 3 rc1 is released! When can we expect to see it in the repositories?

bazhang: askand, never-->final likely though in short time

askand: azhang: ahaa I see, can I read about that somewhere?

bazhang: askand, it's a secret (shh!) gleaned from folks who work on ubuntu :)

[rune0077]

Am I the only one who's still not entirely convinced that Firefox 3 final version will ever come out? It's just one of those I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it things for me.

[bradtem]

I have to say that's disappointing. While I understand the normal policy, I had thought that the decision to move to Firefox 3 while it was still in beta was itself an exception to the rules, driven by various factors, and as an exception on one of the most widely used applications in the world, it deserves further exceptions. Ie. replacing the beta with release candidates. (And of course the final, as expected.)

Many of us found an "ouch" with the default to ff3-beta. Now I like FF3, but it was a hard switch because it was missing so many add-ons. So I had to do the debate about going back to FF2 or sticking with 3. I bit the bullet and stuck with 3, but I did so hoping that my period of using a beta without all my add-ons would be short.

Now of course I am sure some "intrepid" person will release an independent .deb of the rc1 somewhere, even if the official team does not. Post it here if you do.

[pluckypigeon]

I'm not enjoying this Firefox ride.

Fair enough the beta version was released with hardy development but it shouldn't be final hardys default web browser.

Most of the add-ons don't work with b5 yet, I can't see it getting any better with Rc1 or the final release.

I had to disable add-on compatibility so I could get a few add-ons working but that just made it completely play up so I had to re-enable it.

I've had a few problems with stability which I never had with Firefox2, the browser closes when viewing flash videos and when I right click on links it selects something from the popup menu. It selects whatever the mouse is over.

Maybe I should of uninstalled Firefox 3 and installed Firefox 2 but I don't like uninstalling default software on Ubuntu.

:(

[FuturePilot]

I'm not enjoying this Firefox ride.

Fair enough the beta version was released with hardy development but it shouldn't be final hardys default web browser.

Most of the add-ons don't work with b5 yet, I can't see it getting any better with Rc1 or the final release.

I had to disable add-on compatibility so I could get a few add-ons working but that just made it completely play up so I had to re-enable it.

I've had a few problems with stability which I never had with Firefox2, the browser closes when viewing flash videos and when I right click on links it selects something from the popup menu. It selects whatever the mouse is over.

Maybe I should of uninstalled Firefox 3 and installed Firefox 2 but I don't like uninstalling default software on Ubuntu.

:(

You don't need to uninstall Firefox 3 if you want to use 2. They can be used side by side.

[pluckypigeon]

You don't need to uninstall Firefox 3 if you want to use 2. They can be used side by side.

I knew that but fair comment:)

Is it me or has the opera craze died down?

[Bubba64]

I actually like this. It keeps me from creating a growing cache of unorganized bookmarks which I just keep using them from there. This way I have a nice incentive to stop procrastinating and put them in their proper places ;)

Making it an option would probably be sensible, if it isn't already (have you checked about:config?

If you install toolbar buttons from Mozilla add ons you get a bunch of extra buttons one of which is an instant bookmark button that places the bookmark in the main section, Don't leave home without it. Also I assume evrybody here knows about nightly tester tools for enabling add ons in FF 3.

[pluckypigeon]

Also I assume evrybody here knows about nightly tester tools for enabling add ons in FF 3.

Please elaborate. :)

[Bubba64]

Please elaborate. :)

If you upgraded to Hardy and you still have add ons from Mozilla that are not working this link when downloaded from Mozilla will allow the nonworking add ons to work there is a button on the right bottom of add ons after the download, and restart which triggers this, I don't know how to install nonworking add ons then trigger them to work, only that this add on will enable ones that are not working, that are there after the upgrade.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=nightly%20tester%20tools

[iGama]

I've been using the RC1 and it mutch better than the beta 5!

I think it should hit the repos util the final comes out.

[pluckypigeon]

I think it should hit the repos util the final comes out.

yeah i'm fed up of waiting,:confused: apt-get updating every 10 mins

[iGama]

Vote in brainstorm :

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8808/

[ghindo]

Vote in brainstorm :

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8808/This is unnecessary; the devs will move RC1 into the repos soon enough.

[iGama]

Really? wont they wait for the final?

[meganox]

I'd really like a definitive answer on this so I know whether to wait or to go ahead and install rc1 from mozilla :neutral:

[castrojo]

I don't understand where all this assuming and misinformation is coming from but yes, RC1 will be done soon. (I have confirmed with our FF maintainer, Alexander Sack)

(Definitely not today, as most of the ubuntu-mozillateam is in sessions at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, please be patient.)

[Wobedraggled]

I don't understand where all this assuming and misinformation is coming from but yes, RC1 will be done soon. (I have confirmed with our FF maintainer, Alexander Sack)

(Definitely not today, as most of the ubuntu-mozillateam is in sessions at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, please be patient.)


Good news, I couldn't see them not adding it, if they weren't going to support it out to full release they wouldn't have included it.

[hanzomon4]

Scrolling on certain sites is still atrocious, facebook being the worse

[austin1030]

O M G!!! \\:D/ I can't wait to get actual release of Firefox 3.0 ):P

I just installed firefox 3.0 rc1 and guess what? it DOES run faster and takes up less memory just like Firefox team claims =D> I love this :biggrin:

You got to try it.

I deleted both firefox 2 and 3 beta 5 from my Ubuntu hardy and extract firefox 3.0 to /usr/lib/ and made a symbolic link to /usr/bin/firefox

This is so cool...:mrgreen:

[christooss]

I think Firefox RC1 3.0 is better. I doesnt crash on flash movies anymore.

Great news.

[Dr Small]

I just installed Firefox 3 RC 1 from the AUR for Arch. It works good so far and I like it :)

[FuturePilot]

At least on the Windows version, the Clear List button is back in the Download Manager. :D (haven't checked the Linux version yet.)

[atomkarinca]

Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!

Patience, you must have, young Jedi!

[tom56]

Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!

You package it then. Hurry up, Steviant, we're waiting.

On a serious note, the developer's conference is not a "holiday". More importantly many of the people who work on Ubuntu do so as volunteers and they may have better things to do than be sworn at and ordered around.

We know the update will be out in a few days. There is no hurry.

[kxmas]

You package it then. Hurry up, Steviant, we're waiting.

On a serious note, the developer's conference is not a "holiday". More importantly many of the people who work on Ubuntu do so as volunteers and they may have better things to do than be sworn at and ordered around.

We know the update will be out in a few days. There is no hurry.

I agree, it is better that the devs talk about making Ubuntu better than actually make Ubuntu better. I like to talk about making Ubuntu better too!

[bthoward]

Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!

You know if you're so upset and impatient with the Ubuntu developers I'm sure they'd be willing to refund your purchase price of Ubuntu in full. Any Ubuntu installs in a corporate environment would much rather that there be a delay and a testing phase before new releases are put into the repositories. These individuals actually PAY to have Ubuntu on their systems. Who do you think is going to take priority? You who (probably) installed it for free, or the corporate guys who are actually paying for the Ubuntu services. Ubuntu has put special enhancements into Firefox to make it install plugins properly and make it more user friendly for uncomfortable users. Why don't you sit tight and be patient for a little bit and say thank you when it comes out?

[darrenn]

Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!

You can download it directly from the firefox site if your so desperate to try it out.

[ssam]

How do I compile FF3 RC1 from source? If I do compile it from source, what are the drawbacks/benefits as opposed to installing from the repos?



Because the Mozilla codebase builds many different applications and has many options, it is complex to use and learn. Please read these instructions carefully before attempting a build.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documentation

Its probably one of the most difficult FOSS projects to build (i imagine openoffice.org is worse).

The advantage is that you can choose to turn many features on or off. might be able to make it slightly faster.

[MountainX]

The current Hardy version is already rock solid and very fast on my end.
This has been my experience with FF3b5 too -- no problems at all. I'll wait until it hits the repos to try RC1.

[Chokkan]

I'm also loving the beta. A few random crashes which could be attributed to Flash, but it's so much faster and slicker, I don't want to go back to FF2. Hats off to all involved.

[aikishugyo]

I'll be delighted to see RC1. Been using Debian on my AMD64 system mostly since about the end of March, with FF2, because both FF3b2, Seamonkey and FF2 crash regularly or hang indefinitely on Ubuntu HH. Errors are various, the traces sometimes show glib errors, etc. Very frustrating. Before that the fonts had spacing of about 4 times the normal space character between words, entirely unusable. Total disaster. No help on the forums on that score, and no solutions to the crashing either.

I tried FF3pre from the mozilla site, as well as nightly releases. None of them even ran, crashing with fatal errors the moment they are started from the command line.

[Steviant]

You package it then. Hurry up, Steviant, we're waiting.

On a serious note, the developer's conference is not a "holiday". More importantly many of the people who work on Ubuntu do so as volunteers and they may have better things to do than be sworn at and ordered around.

We know the update will be out in a few days. There is no hurry.

It is not my job to package up a new release of Firefox, whereas it is theirs, if the Firefox maintainers aren't able to commit the time to package up new releases then they shouldn't have put up their hands to be a package maintainer in the first place.

You'll notice I'm not putting my hand up to be a package maintainer for exactly that reason, see how easy it is to not **** people off by committing to do something and then dipping out on your responsibilities?

I can't see what these people would have to offer at a developers conference if they take a week to package up a few changes to a web browser that they themselves have made arbitrarily incompatible with the mainline version.

As I said before, it was irresponsible to package such an application by default knowing that it is in a beta state and will have to be updated more frequently than a release and then not commit the extra resources required to keep it up to date.

I wasn't aware however that being a volunteer puts you above reproach and allows you to be completely remiss in your responsibilities, I'll adjust my attitude appropriately and only talk in terms of reverent servitude about our perfect unaccountable volunteering overlords.

[Bubba64]

Just downloaded FF3 RC1 to my desktop to check it out seems faster, the download recognized all my add ons in the Hardy version but of course not the plugins, but all my bookmarks are there. Looking forward to the Hardy download.

[castrojo]

It is not my job to package up a new release of Firefox, whereas it is theirs, if the Firefox maintainers aren't able to commit the time to package up new releases then they shouldn't have put up their hands to be a package maintainer in the first place.


It's in QA and needs to be tested before it gets into the repositories. I didn't say nothing was being done (which is what you were assuming).

[ujhony03]

Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!


d00d if you were able to wait up to today with b5, why can't you wait a few more days for RC1? It's not that serious.. relax.
You are using FREE software aren't you?; not saying they are of less quality than something you would pay for *cough* MicroShaft *cough*
Just take a chill-pill and wait for the gravyTrain to roll by :guitar:.

[petoro]

There is a fact:

Windows users can install the programs at the very moment they are released, and very easily.

Linux users always have to wait, or install and risk to have broken links, nonfunctioning flash and thinks like that...



Petoro

[ujhony03]

Here's another fact:

Window users have to get security patches almost every day for windows....

[vexorian]

There is a fact:

Windows users can install the programs at the very moment they are released, and very easily.

Linux users always have to wait, or install and risk to have broken links, nonfunctioning flash and thinks like that...



Petoro
Your fact sounds a lot like BS.

[funnypanks]

Your fact sounds a lot like BS.

i agree with his "fact"

[Kokesh]

I've installed Windows$ into my Virtualbox for some reason and it was full of spyware after few hours! I forgot to install antivirus, antispyware and many other things to make it work without annoying popup windows. I just didn't think about it anymore, I was thinking about it as about the way to run certain Windows program. Thank god I don't have to use Windows anymore. After few more hours I found myself hunting some new spyware sh** with registry editor, searching internet for solution, installing newest anti-spyware softwares before I've realised that I could have had reinstalled Win maybe five times in the meantime :)
I'd rather wait for few days to get RC1 than anything from what I've mentioned above.
Sorry, this isn't much about this thread's theme "I want RC1 in this minute" :)

[Kokesh]

and one more:
what about apt-get?

c:\Documents and Settings\msdude\Desktop\apt-get install msoffice2007-nonfree
?

I believe that I'll rather wait a little.

[vexorian]

I've installed Windows$ into my Virtualbox for some reason and it was full of spyware after few hours! I forgot to install antivirus, antispyware and many other things to make it work without annoying popup windows. I just didn't think about it anymore, I was thinking about it as about the way to run certain Windows program. Thank god I don't have to use Windows anymore. After few more hours I found myself hunting some new spyware sh** with registry editor, searching internet for solution, installing newest anti-spyware softwares before I've realised that I could have had reinstalled Win maybe five times in the meantime :)
I'd rather wait for few days to get RC1 than anything from what I've mentioned above.
Sorry, this isn't much about this thread's theme "I want RC1 in this minute" :)
dude, the whole point of virtualbox is to have windows without access to the outer world, a windows whose only purpose is to run a couple of apps that can't be run yet on Linux and to make a couple of devices work. Yet you do not have to see its face all the day or risk your safety by using the internet from it, that's the reason virtualBox running windows is the best windows version yet. Don't ruin it giving it access to the web...

[Kokesh]

Of course! I just didn't think about that at the time.

[ujhony03]

they said the same thing about the attom bomb.. :lolflag:

[Mr. Picklesworth]

Here's another fact:

Window users have to get security patches almost every day for windows....

No, they get security patches the second Tuesday of every month and then neglect to install them unless they accept that the operating system does not do everything on its own.



There is a fact:

Windows users can install the programs at the very moment they are released, and very easily.

Linux users always have to wait, or install and risk to have broken links, nonfunctioning flash and thinks like that...
Incorrect. Here is an example (http://www.toribash.com/downloads.php) I noticed just recently. (See here, specifically (https://redmoonstudios.org/~aszlig/toribash/debian/)). Alas, Suse's one-click-install would make that much nicer...
That game has an apt repository which I can trust to be up to date. Whenever an update comes out, it gets downloaded by the central update manager. Cool, eh?


Come on Ubuntu people, this is an important release. It was irresponsible to put beta software which is going to be frequently updated as a default if you're going to lag behind the official releases so much, and go on F*CKING HOLIDAY(!) to a developers conference when a new release of one of the most important applications in the whole distro comes out.

This release fixes a number of important bugs (and a particularly annoying flash bug). We can't just use the version from Mozilla.org because Ubuntu customizes the binaries and installs add-ons in a random selection from a multitude of paths that are terribly documented.

Hurry up FFS!

As a matter of fact, it was quite responsible to do so given that the alternative (FF 2.x) is a browser that will not be supported throughout Hardy's life. Upgrading major versions - particularly when said versions are very different in handling user settings - is a bad, bad thing mid-release.
FF3, however, will change very little from now until its completion and will be supported throughout Hardy's lifetime.

As for "The developers going on holiday", I think you need to take a good (https://launchpad.net/), long look (http://planet.ubuntu.com/) at how (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate) this works (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment) before commenting further on that topic.
Development conferences such as that (summit, actually) tend to be quite productive and important things.

[tom56]

I agree, it is better that the devs talk about making Ubuntu better than actually make Ubuntu better. I like to talk about making Ubuntu better too!

If you think Ubuntu's not good enough then don't use it. No one's forcing you to.

I would be extremely worried if RC1 had been in the repos straight after it was released; it would imply that no testing had been done at all. I think a week is pretty reasonable, considering that this isn't a security fix. I would be more concerned if we were waiting a week for a security fix but we're not.

[diegops]

How to install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5004136

[kxmas]

If you think Ubuntu's not good enough then don't use it. No one's forcing you to.

Are there any other things that I already know that you'd like to tell me?

I think you missed the point. How can talking about improving Ubuntu be better than actually improving Ubuntu?

[Nickedynick]

The short answer is it's not. But to effectively improve Ubuntu discussion needs to take place as to how to go about it. You can't expect the OS to improve without any planning.

[pluckypigeon]

I think everyone is missing the point now. This thread is about Firefox not about people arguing. We are all excited on this release and we all can't wait.

[Sand & Mercury]

I'm just glad that they're making progress on it. Beta 5 is working perfectly fine for me so I'm happy to wait till it's in the repos. I don't see the issue here... if you really want RC1 so badly you can just go and get it yourself.

[Bubba64]

How to install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5004136

I used the launch pad installation and the only side effect is that my links in Thunderbird will not load to destination, does anybody have an answer to this.

[misfitpierce]

I would wait, I'm sure it's repo bound within a few days. I myself am using Opera 64 bit with no issues until Firefox 3 is out in June or whatever. Maybe stick with Opera just because I like layout :)

[Exsecrabilus]

Go!: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/20/firefox-3-release-candidate-released/

I hope it comes in soon in Synaptic/Update Manager, I've been waiting! XD

[Samueltehg33k]

its been out for a week i gotta say its meh its sort of slow but the stability is alot better

[Exsecrabilus]

LOL sorry, I just read the article on Tombuntu written yesterday so I assumed it was new. XD

[Samueltehg33k]

LOL sorry, I just read the article on Tombuntu written yesterday so I assumed it was new. XD
its okay you were only off by 6 days no biggie

[Steviant]

You can download it directly from the firefox site if your so desperate to try it out.

No, you can't. They've made it arbitrarily incompatible in some way that means that no plugins work anymore if you use your own version. I'd be quite happy if there was any way at all to get it working, but apart from the breaking compatibility with vanilla Firefox they've also been remiss about documenting what they've done.

The only hope of getting it at this stage would be to download source packages of the previous version and then applying the patches to the current version.

The reason I'm annoyed is because they put a deliberately broken beta version in the release, knowing that releases were imminent and then according to someone else here effectively went on holiday straight after release.

I'm not the only person complaining about the mismanagement of this release of Ubuntu which seems to have been rushed out the door with no apparent advantages and a lot of half-finished half-supported applications.

Frankly, according to the license they shouldn't even be using Firefox name or branding from what I can tell since the browser they ship is not actually Firefox, nor can it be easily replaced with Firefox.

[Steviant]

If you think Ubuntu's not good enough then don't use it. No one's forcing you to.

I think the performance of the Ubuntu team on this entire release has been well and truly sub-par compared to their performance in the past. Something has changed in regards to quality, they've started focussing on something other than their users (a release date would be my guess) and quality is noticably worse.

Firefox is the most important application in Ubuntu bar none, it's rare to find a place where a bug fix could have a more dramatic impact on the usability than fixing the only viable web browser for a platform. Ubuntu's team have had fixes in hand for a number of usability issues including a major flash bug which crashes the browser and have been sitting on it for a week.

If this is how they handle updates with the single highest profile application on the desktop, then I shudder to imagine what things are going to be like 3 months down the track when they are focused on the next release.

I'm beginning to suspect that this is the tip of the iceberg, and yes I most certainly am looking at more responsible and responsive alternatives.

It's a shame that they seem to be losing their way, but I for one won't be going down with the ship with like the cheerleading squad here.

[dvpdiner2]

I had no issues with the version that I downloaded from the Mozilla website, I just dropped it in a folder and it worked fine. Many plugins still haven't been upgraded to support Firefox 3 (or even upgraded from beta 5 to RC1), so don't expect all of your plugins to be there and functional when you first load it.

Admittedly, it's annoying waiting for software to be updated in the repos, and for many programs, the repos are only updated when a new Ubuntu release is made. I'm glad that the decision was made to use the latest version of a program, even if that means that updates might be frequently released, and frequently delayed.

I only wish that they'd done the same for Blender3D, but again, I've never had problems with downloading the latest version from the program's website and running it.

[luke16]

If its been out for 6 days already, then why hasn't it show up in my synaptic reps yet?

[Bubba64]

If you use the launchpad download everything works including the plugins if they all worked in the Hardy FF 3.
http://blog.rosanegra.org/2008/05/20/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-on-ubuntu-hardy/
The only negative for me was the links in Thunderbird emails do not work, otherwise it overwrote the Hardy version with everything intact. If you still have extensions (add ons) that are are in your add on list in Firefox get nightly tester tools from add ons this will force everything to work.

[vexorian]

Steviant, your posts annoy me for the reason you are drowning on a glass of water and "according to someone" you are paid to post ubuntu-smears in this site.

[andrew200]

Firefox in Ubuntu has always been this way. The update button is always gray. Firefox updates show up as new update notification once it has been added to the repositories. It takes a day or two or three at the most. And if you can't wait, you can always remove the installed FF3 and get RC1 from Mozilla's website (in reverse order, of course).

seems to me they are still trying to get the kinks out

[Dr Small]

I think the performance of the Ubuntu team on this entire release has been well and truly sub-par compared to their performance in the past. Something has changed in regards to quality, they've started focussing on something other than their users (a release date would be my guess) and quality is noticably worse.

Firefox is the most important application in Ubuntu bar none, it's rare to find a place where a bug fix could have a more dramatic impact on the usability than fixing the only viable web browser for a platform. Ubuntu's team have had fixes in hand for a number of usability issues including a major flash bug which crashes the browser and have been sitting on it for a week.

If this is how they handle updates with the single highest profile application on the desktop, then I shudder to imagine what things are going to be like 3 months down the track when they are focused on the next release.

I'm beginning to suspect that this is the tip of the iceberg, and yes I most certainly am looking at more responsible and responsive alternatives.

It's a shame that they seem to be losing their way, but I for one won't be going down with the ship with like the cheerleading squad here.
Move to Arch then. Get the latest bleeding edge updates in the [unstable] repository, if you will.

[Niniel]

Here's another fact:

Window users have to get security patches almost every day for windows....

Lol, we are a bit ignorant, aren't we?
I've never seen as many updates being pushed almost daily as with Ubuntu. Windows has NEVER EVER had this level of activity. So your comment is incorrect on two levels - first it wrongly claims patching activity for Windows that simply isn't there. Second, it pretends that Linux, being the greatest thing in the Universe, shows its greatness by not requiring frequent updates.
C'mon, see the light!
Updates are your friend!
I am very grateful to the Ubuntu developers for constantly updating their software, and for the Ubuntu OS to make it so easy to get these updates.
I consider this one of the advantages of Ubuntu over MS Windows.
Maybe, with some thinking, so will you.

[Niniel]

As for FF3, I am having serious doubts about this after I read yesterday that Mozilla is pursuing a project that would record FF users' web browsing and phone that data home during update checks for analysis by Mozilla, developers, and corporations. They are already collecting some data during update checks.
I just hope that derivative browsers, like IceWeasel, won't follow suit on that madness. Firefox is a great browser, but the entity behind it seems to be losing it.

[Nerrep]

Lol, we are a bit ignorant, aren't we?
I've never seen as many updates being pushed almost daily as with Ubuntu. Windows has NEVER EVER had this level of activity.
This comparison might be vaguely relevant if the update manager only dealt with operating system updates, and not the associated programs.

[Bubba64]

If you use the launchpad download everything works including the plugins if they all worked in the Hardy FF 3.
http://blog.rosanegra.org/2008/05/20/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-on-ubuntu-hardy/
The only negative for me was the links in Thunderbird emails do not work, otherwise it overwrote the Hardy version with everything intact. If you still have extensions (add ons) that are are in your add on list in Firefox get nightly tester tools from add ons this will force everything to work.

I was able to fix the hyper link problem in Thunderbird through the configuration editor in Thunderbird with the second post of this thread.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798848
I just updated my desktop via the Launchpad down load of the latest FF 3 release not yet in the Hardy repositories with no problems, and have all the add ons, plugins, and bookmarks in the latest release.

[Exsecrabilus]

If its been out for 6 days already, then why hasn't it show up in my synaptic reps yet?
Pidgin 2.4.2 has been out for weeks, yet it still hasn't shown up.

Just be patient, it'll come..... :D

[Bubba64]

Steviant, your posts annoy me for the reason you are drowning on a glass of water and "according to someone" you are paid to post ubuntu-smears in this site.

+ 1000

[bobbocanfly]

If its been out for 6 days already, then why hasn't it show up in my synaptic reps yet?

Most of the core Ubuntu developers (the guys that handle packages like Firefox and Pidgin etc.) are at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Prague. This means they dont have any time to upload any new upstream versions.

Im pretty sure that Firefox updates will be uploaded into Hardy but im not sure about Pidgin. The developers try and keep Hardy as stable as possible by not introducing many new packages or updates. Normally its only security updates or high importance bug fixes, so you might have to wait until August for the next Pidgin upstream.

Asac (the leader of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team) says he will upload a new Firefox package when he returns from UDS (which finishes tomorrow), so i'd expect it to hit the repos in the next week or so.

[K.Mandla]

Similar threads merged.

[K.Mandla]

Linux users always have to wait, or install and risk to have broken links, nonfunctioning flash and thinks like that...
Linux users can also grab prerelease versions, install the necessary libraries, and compile the software while it's still being developed, and use it before the average Windows user ever even hears that it's been improved.

Never forget the Linux Philosophy:

The Linux philosophy is ‘Laugh in the face of danger.’ Oops. Wrong one. ‘Do it yourself.’ Yes, that’s it.
If you want the newest and best software, jump in there and get your hands dirty.

[jonasbh]

Here is a really good reason to wait for Ubuntu repo to be ready with Firefox. The distros will need to patch this bug:

http://jasondclinton.livejournal.com/66509.html

[linuxd00]

Hey Guys.

:KS YOU CAN TEST RC1!:KS

just go to the firefox site and Download the linux package.
unzip it to your desktop or whenever and run it *from there*.

No need to install or even have root rights.
It will use your current profile(bookmarks and addons) BUT WILL NOT CHANGE IT!

so after i ran it and shut it off i ran the firefox on my gnome menu and it was still Beta5.

It seems to work like those portable versions.
so if you want to know if it runs better on your system just do it.

[mrgnash]

This method will not work for amd64 users.

[bikeboy]

As for FF3, I am having serious doubts about this after I read yesterday that Mozilla is pursuing a project that would record FF users' web browsing and phone that data home during update checks for analysis by Mozilla, developers, and corporations.

You might want to read something other than FUD on the subject then.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/msg/1fed1514e5c5dc64

[kxmas]

According to this, it's in hardy-proposed now. I can't find a link to anything but the source...

https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.hardy

[mgol]

BUG: Firefox 3 uses fsync excessively (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421482)

Of course even if it is a bug and if by some miracle we fix it,
that doesn't help anything much for next year or two.
This doesn't sound very good...

[jamesstansell]

BUG: Firefox 3 uses fsync excessively (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421482)

This doesn't sound very good...

That quote seems somewhat out of context. Andrew seemed to be talking about implementation details of fdatasync rather than anything that pertained directly to Firefox.

[jamesstansell]

According to this, it's in hardy-proposed now. I can't find a link to anything but the source...

https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.hardy

The hardy-proposed might not have been built yet. The only rc1 build I'm finding is for intrepid. Here's the i386 build:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/613493

[mgol]

RC1 went out on May 16... 10 days ago. :) I hope next Fx updates will be applied at least a bit faster...

[Exsecrabilus]

At least on the Windows version, the Clear List button is back in the Download Manager. :D (haven't checked the Linux version yet.)
Maybe they got rid of it because you could clear your download history by going Tools >> Clear Private Data... and checking Download History.

But I guess it's back because many people got confused and requested it be back? XD

[tom56]

The hardy-proposed might not have been built yet. The only rc1 build I'm finding is for intrepid. Here's the i386 build:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/613493

I tried enabling hardy-proposed yesterday and I wasn't offered any updates for firefox.

[Exsecrabilus]

I tried enabling hardy-proposed yesterday and I wasn't offered any updates for firefox.
He said it's not available in Hardy yet..... ^_^;;

[Twitch6000]

He said it's not available in Hardy yet..... ^_^;;

Idk I got it in hardy <.<.

[FuturePilot]

He said it's not available in Hardy yet..... ^_^;;

It's not available in Hardy Updates yet. It's in Hardy Proposed though.

[bobbocanfly]

It's not available in Hardy Updates yet. It's in Hardy Proposed though.

Its not synced to the UK servers yet. Mozillateam PPA ftw!

[Exsecrabilus]

It's not available in Hardy Updates yet. It's in Hardy Proposed though.
ORLY? I don't have it available as an update.....?

[HoldSteady]

As for FF3, I am having serious doubts about this after I read yesterday that Mozilla is pursuing a project that would record FF users' web browsing and phone that data home during update checks for analysis by Mozilla, developers, and corporations. They are already collecting some data during update checks.
I just hope that derivative browsers, like IceWeasel, won't follow suit on that madness. Firefox is a great browser, but the entity behind it seems to be losing it.

I believe the system they are proposing is opt-in, but it still is disturbing they are even considering such dreck. Perhaps this is being imposed on them by their Sugar Daddy Google (who is getting evil-er by the day, it seems). I dumped FF due to the memory suckage, but maybe I'll stick with Opera even post-FF3 release...

[marcelo danico]

Is the RC1 free of the constant crashing problem? Or does the problem run deeper (in Ubuntu), I got both ff3.5 and epiphany crashing all the time with the new 8.04.:confused:

[northwestuntu]

Is the RC1 free of the constant crashing problem? Or does the problem run deeper (in Ubuntu), I got both ff3.5 and epiphany crashing all the time with the new 8.04.:confused:

it's only crashed on me once or twice. been very solid for me.

[The_Dark_Lord]

RC2 is almost ready to be released


http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2478

also beta 5 has also been very solid with me, only 1 or 2 problems so far but also waiting for hardy updates to finally show a Firefox update

[tom56]

He said it's not available in Hardy yet..... ^_^;;

I know; he said "might" so I was confirming that he was right.

[mgol]

I didn't agree with this people saying "why isn't it still here?" for all the time, but now... I do. This is not fair from the Mozillateam to say that RC1 will be shipped and then not to do it for... 12 days! If they do it this way, RC2 will appear before they put RC1 in repo... I can understand 1-2 days, I can even understand 5 days sometimes, but 12 days (and still counting!) is just too long, really.

EDIT: RC2 is supposed to appear on June 5. I would bet that Ubuntu Mozillateam won't put RC1 in repo before that...

[Shii]

Does Hardy fix the no-redraw problem? I asked about this earlier on these forums but people called me a troll and told me to leave :(

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6831/screenshotgt4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6831/screenshotgt4.e6ec526848.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=233&i=screenshotgt4.png)

[bikeboy]

I personally haven't seen that issue since before Fx Beta 5, which I was running on Hardy development.

[srossnz]

As a noob I'm at the mercy of the autoupdate. the only major prob i have with beta5 is constant internal server error pages. I got nailed with page fails from linkedin and paypal/ebay payments -yet i boot into winxp and the pages work fine..

[xebian]

For those who can't wait, there's the swiftweasel RC. You can find it here

http://swiftweasel.tuxfamily.org/

:guitar:

[FuturePilot]

Does Hardy fix the no-redraw problem? I asked about this earlier on these forums but people called me a troll and told me to leave :(

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6831/screenshotgt4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6831/screenshotgt4.e6ec526848.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=233&i=screenshotgt4.png)

I'm almost certain that is not a Firefox bug. Are you using Compiz? What graphics card and driver are you using? Any examples of sites this happens on?

[markbuntu]

RC1 works just fine with compiz and the ATI 8.47.3 fglrx driver and Flash9. No crash, no artifacts. No creepingly slow redraw, no 100% cpu usage. no flash problems if you get rid of libflashsupport, no memory leaks. Scrolling vastly improved. They seem to have fixed a lot with this release. I was on the verge of kicking firefox to the curb before I got this.

I just now got a compiz update too, even better.

The no redraw problem is not a firefox problem. Probably your video driver.

[hotweiss]

For those who can't wait, there's the swiftweasel RC. You can find it here

http://swiftweasel.tuxfamily.org/

:guitar:

Just installed Swiftweasel and Flash 10. The combination is pretty nice, my Flash movies play really nicely now. Thanks.

[jrusso2]

Due to some security issues found in FF 3 RC1 looks like they will be releasing RC2 in about a week.

[mgol]

Due to some security issues found in FF 3 RC1 looks like they will be releasing RC2 in about a week.

I've already written it few posts ago...

I'd like some response from Ubuntu team - why does it take so long for Fx3RC1 to hit the repo?

[mjuhasz]

Good news! It just hit the Hardy-changes notification list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-May/thread.html).

It is already in building phase, you can track the status in the launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds).

[Exsecrabilus]

Good news! It just hit the Hardy-changes notification list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-May/thread.html).

It is already in building phase, you can track the status in the launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds).
Win.

[MemoryDump]

Good news! It just hit the Hardy-changes notification list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-May/thread.html).

It is already in building phase, you can track the status in the launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds).

so does that mean we should be able to upgrade FF?

[Nathan_M]

Time to sudo apt-get update

It's up!

[Joeb454]

I quite surprised at how excited people seem to be getting about it :p

[DC@DR]

No update for Firefox yet, for me. Anyone got upgraded? Really hate FFb5, it sucks the resources so much ;-)

[LuCiAn0]

nothing here just some gcc and sql updates

[loopeando]

Upgrading to RC1

[mgol]

It is already in building phase, you can track the status in the launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds).

I can see only intrepid builds there, not hardy's...

[amendt]

Does it make a difference if I select main server or server from Canada?

[mjuhasz]

Does it make a difference if I select main server or server from Canada?

I selected the main server instead of the local one. It may take some time to synchronize the servers.
The update is working fine for me. Language pack came along with Firefox so it remained translated. Plugins (flash, adobe pdf, vlc, Sun java) are working. YouTube videos ditto. It works as it should, no crash, no freeze, no slowdown.
[Kubuntu 8.04, KDE 3.5.9]

[bilbo.san]

Tried it from >System>Administration>Update Manager and no updates for FF yet. Could there be any difference if I run it from the Terminal?... I mean the updates call?

b.

[monstermudder78]

Tried it from >System>Administration>Update Manager and no updates for FF yet. Could there be any difference if I run it from the Terminal?... I mean the updates call?

b.

I don't think so. I haven't gotten the upgrade yet either, and I've been trying w/ the terminal.

[MemoryDump]

I just got mine installed off the mirror I'm using! woohoo!

[mjuhasz]

Tried it from >System>Administration>Update Manager and no updates for FF yet. Could there be any difference if I run it from the Terminal?... I mean the updates call?

b.

I updated from command line using aptitude but that should not make any difference. You'd better check the server you are using. I commented out the following line in my sources.list:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

After that I executed:

sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade


Of course update can be done with Synaptic or Adept, I am just simply used to using aptitude.
If you follow my advice you wait for some time and snap! there will be the firefox update :)

[BigStan23]

It's currently in proposed updates, which is not one of the default repositories. However it's very easy to add via the update manager.

[bilbo.san]

I updated from command line using aptitude but that should not make any difference. You'd better check the server you are using. I commented out the following line in my sources.list:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

After that I executed:

sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade


Of course update can be done with Synaptic or Adept, I am just simply used to using aptitude.
If you follow my advice you wait for some time and snap! there will be the firefox update :)

Thanks... but how can I check for which server the OS is connected to?

[mjuhasz]

Thanks... but how can I check for which server the OS is connected to?

From command line:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep proposed

You should see something like this:
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

From Gnome:
Select System/Administration/Software Sources, then make sure the hardy-proposed repository checkbox is checked (3rd tab). On the 1st tab you can find a dropdown list where you can select the primary server.

From KDE:
Use Adept manager and follow the same procedure as in Gnome (enable hardy-proposed repository, select primary server.)

Good luck!

[Smiecho]

I've just upgraded FF from server http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and... it crashed. It seems that Polish language pack is bugged. :evil:

I got error:

Błąd parsowania XML: niezdefiniowana jednostka
Obszar: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
Numer linii: 242, kolumna 5:
which means something like this:

Error while parsing XML: undefined unit
Area: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
Line: 242, column 5:

I managed to get it working by running FF in safe mode and switching to English.

[unityofsaints]

Just got it from the proposed repository, working well sofar. On english Ubuntu here tho so language pack probs not likely for me :)

[Exsecrabilus]

I tried the main server and enabled the hardy-proposed repo and everything.....


I still don't have it available as an update..... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[klange]

I tried the main server and enabled the hardy-proposed repo and everything.....


I still don't have it available as an update..... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

You may be on an slower repo. Some repos are up to a week behind!
I use mirrors.anl.gov - always up to date, 10gbps, html/ftp/rsync. Just now installing the updates.

[monstermudder78]

Just got mine installed from Hardy Proposed. Not sure if someone mentioned it already or not, or if it is common knowledge, but I had to uninstall the beta version first to get it to work.

[robertchahine]

i'm using now the FF3 RC1,
and i like it. it's amazing

[bapoumba]

Just a small reminder, it may have been already noted but I did not read the whole thread. The -proposed repos are for tests, not for general use. The packages tested in -proposed will get in the main repos once bugs are handled (or no bug came up).

[Exsecrabilus]

Just a small reminder, it may have been already noted but I did not read the whole thread. The -proposed repos are for tests, not for general use. The packages tested in -proposed will get in the main repos once bugs are handled (or no bug came up).
Yeah, it's just a proposed update.

Proposed updates are updates that are only proposed.
They might reach the important security or recommended updates, or they might not.
It's only proposed, so you can't guarantee anything.

But I'm pretty sure Firefox 3 RC 1 will make it past since it fixes so much bugs! :D

[Exsecrabilus]

Just got mine installed from Hardy Proposed. Not sure if someone mentioned it already or not, or if it is common knowledge, but I had to uninstall the beta version first to get it to work.
Do you remove it or completely remove it?

[mgol]

It would be nice if there was more response from Ubuntu staff if sometimes it happens for some packages to be delayed for a few more days... Now we've been only said that "RC1 will hit the repos" and that's all - no information about why it takes so long to do that...

[bapoumba]

Yeah, it's just a proposed update.

Proposed updates are updates that are only proposed.
They might reach the important security or recommended updates, or they might not.
It's only proposed, so you can't guarantee anything.

But I'm pretty sure Firefox 3 RC 1 will make it past since it fixes so much bugs! :D
Probably, yes ;)
I thought the packages in -proposed were all going to updates, after being tested on a larger userbase (to avoid mass breakages):

-proposed is the testing area for -updates. A number of people must give positive feedback on these packages before they are allowed into -updates. This repository is recommend to ONLY interested in helping to test updates and provide feedback. Since they are in effect testing updates, there is a higher chance of defective updates in this repository.
From : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-c8ff4dccb06c553c4f03777dd5dcbeb5caa38a32
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-c8ff4dccb06c553c4f03777dd5dcbeb5caa38a32)

[monstermudder78]

Do you remove it or completely remove it?

Umm, from Synaptic I completely removed firefox, then let it remove the rest itself.

[klange]

I never had to remove anything and it's working fine... Interestingly enough, one of my favorite improvements is the new loading animation (it's an APNG now, so it's nice and smooth unlike the old aliased one)

[gameryoshi600]

install firefox 3 rc1 - gui method (and two simple terminal commands)
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-in-ubuntu-hardy.html

[EdThaSlayer]

I can't wait till the final version comes out. The release is good, but still not good enough for hardcore usage(although it works fine as it's...).

[RoboRutt]

install firefox 3 rc1 - gui method (and two simple terminal commands)
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-in-ubuntu-hardy.html

Hmmm.. tried this stull... got some errors (NODATA) in the apt-get update... looked into it further and there were a few "Failed to fetch" errors...

I tried checking out http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/ and found a bit of a suss site!

Whaddya rekon - taken over by aliens ? (or domain vampires at least ;) )

Not too stressed about missing our on FF# - but maybe someone who knows more than me (gotta be lots of youse out there!) could tell me if this site is dodgey, then have I just opened the door to some freakiod on my machine?

:)RR

[bapoumba]

Hmmm.. tried this stull... got some errors (NODATA) in the apt-get update... looked into it further and there were a few "Failed to fetch" errors...
Did you try from the PPA?
The packages are in -proposed for now, to be tested.


I tried checking out http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/ and found a bit of a suss site!

Whaddya rekon - taken over by aliens ? (or domain vampires at least ;) )

Not too stressed about missing our on FF# - but maybe someone who knows more than me (gotta be lots of youse out there!) could tell me if this site is dodgey, then have I just opened the door to some freakiod on my machine?

:)RR
What kind of link is that ? :D

[dunnerz]

Hi,

I'm getting this when I try and run firefox (just upgraded):

XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
Line Number 242, Column 5: <key key="&fullZoomReduceCmd.commandkey2;" command="cmd_fullZoomReduce" modifiers="accel"/>
----^

I also get it when running firefox -safe-mode
It's just a popup diaglogue then it quits, no browser or anything. I think it is related to files in /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/chrome but no idea how to fix it!!!

Help - i'm currently running opera!

[hotweiss]

RC1 is in the repositories now, just run an update.

[dunnerz]

Hi,

I'm getting this when I try and run firefox (just upgraded):

XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
Line Number 242, Column 5: <key key="&fullZoomReduceCmd.commandkey2;" command="cmd_fullZoomReduce" modifiers="accel"/>
----^

I also get it when running firefox -safe-mode
It's just a popup diaglogue then it quits, no browser or anything. I think it is related to files in /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/chrome but no idea how to fix it!!!

Help - i'm currently running opera!

Ok, I've downloaded firfox from mozilla, then unpacked the download, and taken chrome directory and copied it accross /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/chrome
Firefox works, but none of the extentions do.

[dunnerz]

Ok, I've downloaded firfox from mozilla, then unpacked the download, and taken chrome directory and copied it accross /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/chrome
Firefox works, but none of the extentions do.

Still no extensions, and I can't reinstall any of them.
Also tried unistall and reinstall - no joy.

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know !!

(p.s the first thing I did was clear the profile, but that didn't work either)

[dunnerz]

Right, follow these instructions if your is broken like mine

apt-get purge firefox-3.0
(also did apt-get purge firefox2 and firefox just incase)

then pop up a terminal,

rm /usr/lib/firefox*

rm /etc/firefox*

apt-get install firefox-3.0

Its should all then work (along with the original profile - i.e. all bookmarks and extensions back up and running)

That's a morning of my time I won't get back

[saratchandra]

RC1 is in the repositories now, just run an update.

Where? I can't find it.:( Should I enable proposed updates?

[dunnerz]

Where? I can't find it.:( Should I enable proposed updates?

I just did
sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

Although if your using a mirror for your repo's it might take slightly longer to filter through (although I'm using GB mirrors with not problems)

[FuturePilot]

I think the Ubuntu gods don't want me to have RC1. I still am not seeing this update.:confused:

[ukheather]

I think the Ubuntu gods don't want me to have RC1. I still am not seeing this update.:confused:

Me neither :(

[robertchahine]

I think the Ubuntu gods don't want me to have RC1. I still am not seeing this update.:confused:
i just did that :



gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

the add this to the text :

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main

and save the file.

then go to the terminal and type


sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade .
it's done ;)

[robertchahine]

I think the Ubuntu gods don't want me to have RC1. I still am not seeing this update.:confused:
i just did that :



gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

the add this to the text :

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main

and save the file.

then go to the terminal and type


sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade .
it's done ;)

[Elswood]

I installed it. Firefox 3.0 RC. But the email link under File now doesn't do anything (like invoke evolution mail). Could someone tell me to set that? Appreciate it! :)

[sancho panza]

Does anyone know why the extensions which work with beta5 dont work with rc1? I've heard theres been some major rewrites in the codes, but does that cause whole set of extensions fail?

[bikeboy]

Does anyone know why the extensions which work with beta5 dont work with rc1? I've heard theres been some major rewrites in the codes, but does that cause whole set of extensions fail?

Because the authors haven't checked to make sure they still work. Therefore they haven't updated the part of the extension that specifies what versions of Fx they work with, causing Firefox to disable them for safety. In most cases the changes between Beta 5 and RC1 won't "break" the functionality of the extensions, but you never know. You can either use something like Nightly Tester Tools to bypass the compatibility check, or wait until the author confirms that the extension still behaves properly.

[zekopeko]

My Firefox RC1 crashes like crazy when i try to download anything.

[mgol]

Great. RC2 is coming in a few days and there is still no RC1 in hardy-updates...

[The_Dark_Lord]

Can't wait till ubuntuzilla gets hardy sorted out in there programming, then theres no waiting for Firefox to show in the repo's. Its straight download from the Mozilla site and it does all the work for you


http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net

[elmer_42]

Wait, it still hasn't hit the Repo's? Maybe that's why it wasn't updating.

[Exsecrabilus]

Oh it did. Just enable the hardy-proposed repo.

[FuturePilot]

Oh it did. Just enable the hardy-proposed repo.

I'd advise to be careful with that repo.

[elmer_42]

Is there a way to update only Firefox? As of now I'm thinking of trying to enable it, update, and then disable it. Will that work?

[Exsecrabilus]

Is there a way to update only Firefox? As of now I'm thinking of trying to enable it, update, and then disable it. Will that work?
You can always enable hardy-proposed, install the update to RC 1.

Then, if you don't like it, uninstall Firefox 3 completely, disable hardy-proposed, and install Firefox 3 (which will be Beta 5.)

[monstermudder78]

Is there a way to update only Firefox? As of now I'm thinking of trying to enable it, update, and then disable it. Will that work?

Yes, you just need to tell it to install the new version. If you do update, then upgrade, it will list all the new packages. Tell it no to the big list, then install just the new firefox. You might have to uninstall the old one first, I did but I can't remember why.

[tom56]

You might have to uninstall the old one first, I did but I can't remember why.

Just upgrading worked fine for me; I didn't uninstall anything. Enable hardy-proposed, install the updates relating to firefox, then disable hardy-proposed again. Works like a charm.

[mgol]

Hardy-proposed, alternate FxRC1 download sites... That's not what I am talking about. It just shouldn't take so much time to prepare a new version of browser to hit the repo. Come on, it takes less time for Mozilla to make a new version of Firefox that for Ubuntu to just prepare it for the repo...

Will I have to wait for all incoming updates so long? Don't be kidding...

[Exsecrabilus]

I wish it would just hit the hardy-updates repo already, I don't like hardy-proposed since it's not secure. :|

[mgol]

I wish it would just hit the hardy-updates repo already, I don't like hardy-proposed since it's not secure. :|

That's just what I'm talking about. :)

[Exsecrabilus]

That's just what I'm talking about. :)
LOL, me = you > everyone. XD!!!!!

[bapoumba]

Just upgrading worked fine for me; I didn't uninstall anything. Enable hardy-proposed, install the updates relating to firefox, then disable hardy-proposed again. Works like a charm.

That is the way I do with every package I install from other repos than mainstream ubuntu. Enable the repo, install said package, comment the repo out. The end. Then you have to manually check from time to time for new versions but meh, no weird updates :)

[Joeb454]

That's the same way I got my Firefox 3 :)

[Ub1476]

"Finally", the Arch repos has updated to Firefoxrc1. It's only bugs for me though:(

My bookmarks seems to steal each others icon (on the left) all the time. It's a bit confusing..

[bilbo.san]

Well... I just think that it should not be the way to update stuff that came pre-installed on, I mean having everyone to go to the settings and change here and there. If the Ubuntu team is not adding each new update release for FF in the repos, then FF should have the 'update program' option available.

[Joeb454]

It will be updated in the main repo soon, after it has been tested by those using hardy-proposed :)

[mgol]

It will be updated in the main repo soon, after it has been tested by those using hardy-proposed :)

Oh, so will it be before July? :D Final version of Fx3 won't if it will go so "fast"...

[kahrytan]

Question: Did anyone check Mozilla website or ftp (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc1/linux-i686/en-US) for Firefox 3 RC1?

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc1/linux-i686/en-US If you haven't, here ya go. It's not the same as deb but it will run and use the existing profile. Run the 'firefox' and not firefox-bin. Just drop the folder in ~/

[Exsecrabilus]

It will be updated in the main repo soon, after it has been tested by those using hardy-proposed :)
Let's just hope it happens before RC 2 is released..... ^_^;;

[vexorian]

well, now it is easy for anyone who is rushing to get it to install it, just enable hardy-proposed, update firefox , disable hardy-proposed.

[mgol]

Read this: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8808/, especially this comment:

FF3 final will appear in hardy-updates when it's released. The RCs can be found in the hardy-proposed repository and in the mozilla team PPA.
It seems that RCs won't be in hardy-updates at all... Good to know.

[FuturePilot]

ooooohhhh. Now I see how it works. :|

[mgol]

I can't find key file on site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. There is only an information about what to add to /etc/apt/sources.list. But we shouldn't update unsigned software...

This sentence:

These packages have been signed with gnomefreak's key, to add this key:
looks like unfinished - where to look for this key, finally?

[FuturePilot]

I can't find key file on site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. There is only an information about what to add to /etc/apt/sources.list. But we shouldn't update unsigned software...

This sentence:

looks like unfinished - where to look for this key, finally?

I don't thing it really matters. It's just added security so you can authenticate the packages.

[mgol]

I was told on #ubuntu-mozillateam that archives are not signed and, therefore, the mentioned sentence about key is obsolete.

[bapoumba]

I was told on #ubuntu-mozillateam that archives are not signed and, therefore, the mentioned sentence about key is obsolete.

You can install an unsigned package if you are sure of the repo. As FuturePilot pointed out, the sig is an extra security measure.

[mgol]

You can install an unsigned package if you are sure of the repo. As FuturePilot pointed out, the sig is an extra security measure.

Yes, but it's a bit annoying when you see warnings and asks for confirmation all the time you update sth... ;)

I enabled -proposed, updated Firefox and disabled it again. I would did it earlier but I didn't know Fx3 RCs won't hit the -updates.

[Exsecrabilus]

Yes, but it's a bit annoying when you see warnings and asks for confirmation all the time you update sth... ;)

I enabled -proposed, updated Firefox and disabled it again. I would did it earlier but I didn't know Fx3 RCs won't hit the -updates.
It's not?

OH NO, WHY?????

[mgol]

It's not?

OH NO, WHY?????

I think that it's because of extensions' incompatibility.

[pluckypigeon]

it's still not in the official repos yet though is it?

[bistory]

Firefox RC2 is out :lolflag:

[mgol]

Firefox RC2 is out :lolflag:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html - as you see, it's not.

EDIT: OK, it is, but only here: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc2/. :)

[Fundi]

Are they waiting until the final release to update firefox 3 in the repos?

[FuturePilot]

This is a statement from the developers

FF3 final will appear in hardy-updates when it's released. The RCs can be found in the hardy-proposed repository and in the mozilla team PPA. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives for more information.

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8808/

[ghindo]

I'm having a bit of trouble installing the RC from the repos, and was wondering if anyone could help me out.

I go into software sources, enable the "proposed" repo, run
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefoxDisable proposed, but I'm still at Beta 5.

Any ideas? :(

[Exsecrabilus]

I'm having a bit of trouble installing the RC from the repos, and was wondering if anyone could help me out.

I go into software sources, enable the "proposed" repo, run
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefoxDisable proposed, but I'm still at Beta 5.

Any ideas? :(
Just enable it through System >> Administration >> Software Sources and when you close, it should download package information automatically if you press Reload.

Now just go System >> Administration >> Update Manager and check the update for all packages related to Firefox.

You should have it then.

[andrewabc]

Firefox RC2 is out :lolflag:

Sigh.
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0rc2

No it is not. There may be builds out there but none are finalized releases. Yes they may be exactly what will be released, but until officially released there is no point jumping the gun.

[ghindo]

Well the ETA for RC2 is June 5, so we won't have to wait all that long anyway.

[mgol]

This is a statement from the developers

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8808/

I've already told that... No need to repeat it.

[FuturePilot]

I've already told that... No need to repeat it.

I know but there's a number of people asking why it isn't in the repos yet. They must have missed it. ;)

[Exsecrabilus]

Sigh.
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0rc2

No it is not. There may be builds out there but none are finalized releases. Yes they may be exactly what will be released, but until officially released there is no point jumping the gun.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

.....wha--?

[mgol]

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html
Now it's released, indeed. :)

[andrewabc]

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

.....wha--?

And at the link I posted now shows all tasks completed which means it has been released. When I posted the link it was only at:
Build pushes download files to mirrors

[BXCracer]

Lets guess when will it appear in the repos :)

[mgol]

I hope we won't have to wait 2 weeks, as with RC1. :D

[mgol]

I've heard that on Thursday morning RC2 hit SUSE repos. They seem to be "a bit" faster than Ubuntu does...

[Exsecrabilus]

I've heard that on Thursday morning RC2 hit SUSE repos. They seem to be "a bit" faster than Ubuntu does...
Maybe they don't test for bugs or other difficulties.

[andrewabc]

There is no point in ubuntu releasing RC1 or RC2 then releasing final version a week or two after that. Lots of unnecessary updates.
Release final version and get bug reports then.

If you need the RC then enable hardy proposed repository.