OpenOffice3 Beta

[ShodanjoDM]

Have anyone try it?

I've installed it but there's no menu entries at the usual location (Applications>>Office), so I have to manually run the program under /opt/ folder. Might try to create the shortcuts myself if there's no other way to automatically insert them in the menu.

So far it seems lighter and faster, and I definitely love this:

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[FuturePilot]

That looks awesome! \\:D/

[qamelian]

Have anyone try it?

I've installed it but there's no menu entries at the usual location (Applications>>Office), so I have to manually run the program under /opt/ folder. Might try to create the shortcuts myself if there's no other way to automatically insert them in the menu.

So far it seems lighter and faster, and I definitely love this:

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You will need to create the shortcuts yourself, but it is pretty easy.

I've been running OOo3-dev for a while now and it really does feel much more light-weight than OOo 2.X. It's also been surprisingly robust throughout the time I've been using it. I haven't touched 2.4 at all in the last 3 weeks and have been using 3 for all my office tasks.

[scouser73]

Judging by the 'tip of the iceberg' screenshot that ShodanjoDM has displayed
more good things are set to come from OpenOffice.

[qamelian]

Judging by the 'tip of the iceberg' screenshot that ShodanjoDM has displayed
more good things are set to come from OpenOffice.
If you check out some of the plans they have, it sounds like there are some great new features coming including PDF import to complement the existing PDF export feature. I think I recall reading that OOo Base will also gain the ability to read/import MS Access databases. This is good news for users already heavily committed to Microsoft tools, but want to make the move to a different toolset.

[Ardrias]

It's a shame it defaults to the KDE or Gnome themes instead of the new icons, since they are superior :D

The new starterthingy is neat, and it just feels a lot more responsive than 2.x ever did. Good job, keep it coming!

[eragon100]

Where can I get it?

[rax_m]

That looks pretty good :D
Is it possible to install the new Oo3 alongside the current version in Gutsy?

Thanks
Rax

[Het Irv]

Where can I get it?

Bump! I have a testing partition that I just set up for this kind of thing. If someone can post a link It would be nice. I think I went looking once and couldn't find it.

[FuturePilot]

here (http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/)

It installs it in /opt so I would think you could use it along side with 2.4

[Milos_SD]

Can someone tell me how to install this? There are a lot of packages i DEBs dir, some of them I can not install.
Edit: I figure it out.

[eragon100]

WTF !? In which order do I have to install them :confused:

There must be 20 .debs in there :confused:

[eragon100]

bump.

How do I install all those packages?

[qazwsx]

use wildcard


sudo dpkg -i *.deb

[eragon100]

Thanx it's working perfectly, main difference is speed. It starts 10 times faster :)

As far as I can see Base still only supports ODF databases and no access though :(

I hope OOo No 3.0 is finished, or in a stable beta state like firefox 3 beta 5, when ubuntu 8.10 comes out :)

[FuturePilot]

Thanx it's working perfectly, main difference is speed. It starts 10 times faster :)

As far as I can see Base still only supports ODF databases and no access though :(

I hope OOo No 3.0 is finished, or in a stable beta state like firefox 3 beta 5, when ubuntu 8.10 comes out :)
Last I heard slated release is in September. The final 3.0 should make it into 8.10.

[Ebuntor]

I managed to install it but I don't know how to start it. Could someone explain how please?

[saracen]

Is there a repository for the new beta debs? It would make installing it and subsequently removing it (if need be) much easier...

[WeeManDan]

Ooh, this is starting to sound and look like I could drop Office :)

[ugm6hr]

Anyone installed on AMD64?

The .debs are i386...

[ShodanjoDM]

I managed to install it but I don't know how to start it. Could someone explain how please?

They're all under /opt/openoffice.org3/program/ folder. Navigate to the folder, and you can run them from the terminal by typing (for launching writer, for example): ./swriter

Or make your own shortcuts like this one:

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[Tom--d]

They're all under /opt/openoffice.org3/program/ folder. Navigate to the folder, and you can run them from the terminal by typing (for launching writer, for example): ./swriter

Or make your own shortcuts like this one:

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Whats your gtk theme?
I like it :)

[boomtisk]

Oooh, this sounds neat. Can someone post some screenshots of the interface, etc? I'm not sure if I feel brave enough to try this out myself.

[Ebuntor]

They're all under /opt/openoffice.org3/program/ folder. Navigate to the folder, and you can run them from the terminal by typing (for launching writer, for example): ./swriter

Or make your own shortcuts like this one:

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Thanks you. Worked perfectly. :)
Solution was so simple, I feel so stupid for asking. :lolflag:

[SomeGuyDude]

I'm going to give it a shot here. About to remove all of OOo2 and install this. I only use the writer, so if it all goes *** up I'll just use AbiWord.

[NightwishFan]

:shock::o It does look cool. :KS

[SuperSon!c]

Ooh, this is starting to sound and look like I could drop Office :)

because of a screenshot? lol

[shareme]

OKay I have a screen shot..

I just did a launcher short cut to soffice, seems to work fine and fast!

[Kingsley]

Does anybody have comments on the new features? All I'm seeing are screenshots of bad GTK themes. :D

I can't install this because my system is 64-bit.

[shareme]

Yes the only gripe I have about the user interface right now is that when adding extensions it shoudl default back to the extension folder your installing extensions form as I load multiple extensions..

I have not been in the rest of user interface yet..


GTK themes bad? I do not see your screenshot with your theme yet, do I? :)

Just kidding, as yo do not have the 64-bit binary package to install yet..

[SomeGuyDude]

crew@crew-laptop:~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter %U
exec: 4: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: not found
crew@crew-laptop:~$

What?

By the way, there's two folders in my opt folder, openoffice.org and openoffice.org3, the latter has the program names, the former has everything else.

[frup]

It's funny when you try a beta piece of software and discover this cool new feature you have been wanting, open up the previous stable and discover it has been there all along, you just didn't notice it.

I am knocking my head against a wall now. Be back in 30 mins.:lolflag:



Code:

crew@crew-laptop:~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter %U
exec: 4: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: not found
crew@crew-laptop:~$

What?

By the way, there's two folders in my opt folder, openoffice.org and openoffice.org3, the latter has the program names, the former has everything else.

Try just plain /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
that works for me :)

[jcwmoore]

I managed to install it but I don't know how to start it. Could someone explain how please?


/opt/ooo-dev3.0/program/soffice

i believe

[aktiwers]

crew@crew-laptop:~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter %U
exec: 4: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: not found
crew@crew-laptop:~$ What?

By the way, there's two folders in my opt folder, openoffice.org and openoffice.org3, the latter has the program names, the former has everything else.

Try like this:

/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

[SuperSon!c]

/opt/ooo-dev3.0/program/soffice

i believe

you're quick.

[SomeGuyDude]

crew@crew-laptop:~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
exec: 4: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: not found
crew@crew-laptop:~$

Same thing!

[frup]

crew@crew-laptop:~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
exec: 4: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: not found
crew@crew-laptop:~$

Same thing!

cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
ls

show us :)

[SuperSon!c]

some of you are making this too difficult for shortcuts. right click on desktop>create launcher>click "browse">navigate to /opt/openoffice.org3/program/>highlight "soffice">click open>click ok

[klange]

Anyone want to actually show the interface?
OpenOffice always looked like crap when it came to GTK integration. Have the fixed the icons to actually work properly, or are we still stuck with the crap we had in OOo2? These are the questions I want answered (as I download the massive tar archive...)


Wow. They didn't fix any of it. Well, back to Abiword...

[SomeGuyDude]

cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
ls

show us :)


crew@crew-laptop:~$ cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
scalc sdraw simpress swriter
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$

There's also cd /opt/openoffice.org/


crew@crew-laptop:/opt$ cd openoffice.org
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org$ ls
basis3.0 ure
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org$

And in basis3.0:


crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0$ ls
help presets program share
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0$

Then in program is a whole LOT of stuff.

[ShodanjoDM]

Whats your gtk theme?
I like it :)

Applecure by kimi. One of the best looking, apple-like, theme IMO :D

http://kims-area.com/?q=node/36

[frup]

crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
scalc sdraw simpress swriter


navigate there in nautilus and click on one of those and click run. If it doesn't work I am quite confused. Is there no soffice?

[aktiwers]

crew@crew-laptop:~$ cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
scalc sdraw simpress swriter
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ There's also cd /opt/openoffice.org/


crew@crew-laptop:/opt$ cd openoffice.org
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org$ ls
basis3.0 ure
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org$ And in basis3.0:


crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0$ ls
help presets program share
crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0$ Then in program is a whole LOT of stuff.


/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

[klange]

You all appear to be missing a significant number of files, are you sure you installed all the DEBs?

[klange 05/07 9:15] /opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
about.bmp fundamentalrc sbase simpress sofficerc unopkg.bin
bootstraprc intro.bmp scalc smath spadmin versionrc
crash_report redirectrc sdraw soffice swriter
crash_report.bin resource setuprc soffice.bin unopkg

[Gokee2]

I can`t seem to find any 64 bit debs around. Anyone know if there are any around? I tried it on my old computer (Athlon 1800 running Debian Lenny) and it crashed on startup. But its rather annoying not being able to try it on my nice new computer (Dual core 64 bit Intel running Ubuntu Hardy).

[ShodanjoDM]

crew@crew-laptop:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
scalc sdraw simpress swriter


navigate there in nautilus and click on one of those and click run. If it doesn't work I am quite confused. Is there no soffice?

Yes there is:

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But as mentioned earlier, I just created shortcuts in the Applications>>Office menu for the new OpenOffice apps.

[SomeGuyDude]

You all appear to be missing a significant number of files, are you sure you installed all the DEBs?

[klange 05/07 9:15] /opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ls
about.bmp fundamentalrc sbase simpress sofficerc unopkg.bin
bootstraprc intro.bmp scalc smath spadmin versionrc
crash_report redirectrc sdraw soffice swriter
crash_report.bin resource setuprc soffice.bin unopkg


I did the command (the "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" thing) from earlier in the thread. Maybe I should do it again? It should install stuff in the same directory, right?

aktiwers, that command gives me the same error.

frup, you're correct. It doesn't do anything.

[klange]

There may be new dependencies. If you install with dpkg -i it won't install them for you, and will instead just error out for that package (and possibly those that follow, I don't know how it breaks on error, it may stop bash execution, may not)

[ShodanjoDM]

I don't know if it will help, but I've uninstalled the OOo2.4 before installing the OOo3 eventhough I know it will installs in the /opt/ folder.

[SomeGuyDude]

We're good. Re-"installed" and all went well. BLAZING, uses GTK, I'm lovin' it.

[DoDoENT]

Can make someone a x64 build and put it into some repository from where it will be easy to install it and automatic updates would work?

[Phil Airtime]

While we're on the subject of "unreasonably involved requests", could someone build me a new website and sort out a server on which to host it? Ta.

[Dixon Bainbridge]

Oh, me too. Can someone cut the grass on my front lawn, its getting ridiculous.

[TheS0urce]

code:

opt/openoffice.org3/program/./soffice %U



that worked for me, I don't know if it's the right way to do it but it does work

[Bou]

uses GTK

Not really, just tries to look like it.

[moore.bryan]

i've been running it since it was "available." it's sweet and i've had no problems with it at all... the googledocs sync plugin is awesome, as well.

[bash]

Still looks pretty much like OOo 2.x. I hoped there would be some more interface changes.

For those asking for a screenshot. Here is OOo 3 Writer running in my Virtualbox:

[Wobedraggled]

It's not working here, just tanks out.

[_oOMOo_]

Still looks pretty much like OOo 2.x. I hoped there would be some more interface changes.

For those asking for a screenshot. Here is OOo 3 Writer running in my Virtualbox:

Zoom slider looks nice. Does it still go peculiar when scrolling (or is that just another Nvidia "feature")?

It would have been nice to see some more interface changes - like reducing the size of the toolbars for instance.

[OZFive]

I am so anxious to get this going here, but I cannot seem to get all the .deb packages installed. I can get verythin but the

ooobasis3.0-en-us-calc_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-draw_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-help_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-impress_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-math_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-onlineupd_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-res_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-en-us-writer_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-impress_3.0.0-2_i386.deb
ooobasis3.0-math_3.0.0-2_i386.deb

and it is all because of this one dependency. ooobasis3.0-en-US I just cannot find it out. Anyone help me on this one please?

[SuperSon!c]

i'm really liking the new beta and would like to remove OOo2, but am afraid that it will remove dependencies that the beta version needs. is there a simple way to remove OOo2 without hosing the beta?

[Nicram]

I can get verythin but the

and it is all because of this one dependency. ooobasis3.0-en-US I just cannot find it out. Anyone help me on this one please?

Just do this:

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

[OZFive]

Just do this:

sudo dpkg -i *.deb


You rock!

[OZFive]

It's a shame it defaults to the KDE or Gnome themes instead of the new icons, since they are superior :D



I did find the new icons for download here.... http://rapidshare.com/files/109305881/images.zip.html

You have to go to ...

/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/share/config

to install and replace the images.tar package with the one downloaded. They still have the weird ugly shaded button when it is not active/available.

[WeeManDan]

Seems I wasn't quick enough to get there, is it hosted anywhere else?

[OZFive]

Seems I wasn't quick enough to get there, is it hosted anywhere else?

Here is a quick link for the direct download for Ubuntu.

Direct Download (http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxinteldeb&lang=en-US&version=3.0.0beta)

[SuperSon!c]

You rock!

it was posted earlier.

[WeeManDan]

Sorry I meant the images

Dan

[OZFive]

it was posted earlier.

I know I saw it later, but he did respond and let me know the way and for that He/She rocks!

[SuperSon!c]

roger.

[jeyaganesh]

Please write in detail about how to upgrade to open office 3 Beta. I prefer step by step instruction. Please!

[Wobedraggled]

Well, I got the writer to run, when I run soffice I get this barfed back at me.


Locking assertion failure. Backtrace:
#0 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 [0xb6853767]
#1 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0(xcb_xlib_lock+0x2e) [0xb685381e]
#2 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 [0xb7cab518]
#3 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(XCreateWindow+0x26) [0xb7ca2616]
#4 /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0(gdk_window_new+0x388) [0xb4e3ee98]
#5 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb50eb2ea]
#6 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID+0x4f) [0xb4d45a4f]
#7 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb4d37079]
#8 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x129) [0xb4d38759]
#9 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb4d4c975]
#10 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x8c6) [0xb4d4e916]
#11 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29) [0xb4d4ec59]
#12 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_realize+0x8d) [0xb50dae4d]
#13 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_gtkli.so [0xb521f4d7]
#14 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_gtkli.so [0xb5221ccb]
#15 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_gtkli.so [0xb5221ea6]
#16 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_gtkli.so [0xb52017d6]
#17 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvclli.so [0xb6acfee0]
#18 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvclli.so [0xb6a6d101]
#19 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvclli.so(_ZN9TabDialogC2EP6WindowRK5ResId+0x5a) [0xb6aa54be]

[GavinZac]

oh wow its super fast! fantastic. and they've tidied up the toolbars a lot, made them much smaller.

God damn, I'm always waiting for a new product to come out of beta, be it hardy, firefox or OOo!

[macaholic]

Anyone find or know if there are any 64-bit packages yet? They don't have to be debs, I jsut want it in any form I can get.

[Chimera76]

The Open Office Team has really outdone themselves, I love how fast it loads :D

[enbuyukfener]

Anyone find or know if there are any 64-bit packages yet? They don't have to be debs, I jsut want it in any form I can get.
Get the sources and compile from that. Why are you using 64 bit anyway?

http://www.google.com/search?q=compiling+from+sources+in+linux

[SuperSon!c]

Please write in detail about how to upgrade to open office 3 Beta. I prefer step by step instruction. Please!

details are in this thread already. it's pretty easy to see.

[Canis familiaris]

Works pretty well! way better than Oo.org 2.x
I hope they do change the interface in some way, not copy MS or something but innovate. After all change is good.
Perhaps if they make it skinnable, it would be brilliant isn't it?
And add one feature: this feature NO office suite has, import articles from Wikipedia without those links and references.

[newbie2]

The OpenOffice.org Community is pleased to announce that the public beta release of OpenOffice.org 3.0 is now available. This beta release is made available to allow a broad user base to test and evaluate the next major version of OpenOffice.org, but is not recommended for production use at this stage.

If you are a regular user of OpenOffice.org, here's a great opportunity to help us make the next release the best ever.
http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/announcementbeta.html
:mrgreen:

[SuperSon!c]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785555

[steffen]

If you don't want to mess up your stable OOo2.4 setup, following this guide gives you a fully functional OOo3beta to play with, without touching either your 2.4 or your config files. Just did it, and it's great :)

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel#DEB_packages_2

[macaholic]

Get the sources and compile from that. Why are you using 64 bit anyway?

http://www.google.com/search?q=compiling+from+sources+in+linux
Ok, well I'm not a noob, no offense but I probably know more about linux than you do, so I know how to compile stuff. My question was where i would FIND the source files to compile it or 64-bit versions of the debs. Your information was not useful in any sense of the word. As to why I run 64-bit, look for any thread in these forums about the advantages and disadvantages, and then ask me.

[msktje]

hello,

i've done the steps above:
decompressed and installed all the debs with dpkg -i *.deb
it all went wel no errors and i also checked the md5sum
but when i try to run it i get this:

ubuntu@ubuntu:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$ ./swriter
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
ubuntu@ubuntu:/opt/openoffice.org3/program$

is there someone who can help me? i don't have java installed maybe that has to do with it? and witch package do i have to download?
The weird thing is that libuno_sal.so.3 is in opt/openoffice.org/ure/lib. I installed also openoffice.org-java-common but it didn't help. My keyboard is azerty dont know if that has to do with it?

greetz

[ugm6hr]

My question was where i would FIND the source files to compile it or 64-bit versions of the debs.

The source files are available at the same place: http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/

There are multiple packages, and I'm not really sure whether dependencies etc are an issue.

If you successfully compile, I'd be glad to know which order you managed it.

[macaholic]

The source files are available at the same place: http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/

There are multiple packages, and I'm not really sure whether dependencies etc are an issue.

If you successfully compile, I'd be glad to know which order you managed it.
Alright, I'll think I'll try that. I'm used to compiling code anyway, I run compiz, kiba-dock, and epiphany with webkit (testing purposes), which are all compiled and updated via either git or svn. I will report back if/when I succeed.

[macaholic]

Well this sure is challenging. I got the configuring done, after resolving all the strange dependencies. Now I'm stuck, I have no idea how to compile this sucker. The folder structure is really confusing. Does anyone know how to compile it after you have configured it correctly?
P.S. This is one of the most annoying things I've compiled on linux, up there with firefox and gecko, or compiling a custom kernel.
EDIT: I started a thread to hopefully address this problem here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4929193#post4929193).

[Luke has no name]

Get the sources and compile from that. Why are you using 64 bit anyway?

http://www.google.com/search?q=compiling+from+sources+in+linux

Because 64-bit is the future, and many of us have 4GB or more of memory.

[SuperSon!c]

i'm really liking the new beta and would like to remove OOo2, but am afraid that it will remove dependencies that the beta version needs. is there a simple way to remove OOo2 without hosing the beta?

anybody?

[urukrama]

anybody?

Why don't you try and uninstall OO2? If it breaks OO3, you could just reinstall OO2 with a few clicks/commands.

[SuperSon!c]

cuz i'm skurred. was going to try that tomorrow morning though if nobody was sure, but i have some best practices to write up tonight, so it'll have to wait.

[GavinZac]

cuz i'm skurred. was going to try that tomorrow morning though if nobody was sure, but i have some best practices to write up tonight, so it'll have to wait.

removing OOo 2 doesn't touch OOo 3, I've done the same.

[SuperSon!c]

thanks gavin

[macaholic]

Well this sure is challenging. I got the configuring done, after resolving all the strange dependencies. Now I'm stuck, I have no idea how to compile this sucker. The folder structure is really confusing. Does anyone know how to compile it after you have configured it correctly?
P.S. This is one of the most annoying things I've compiled on linux, up there with firefox and gecko, or compiling a custom kernel.
EDIT: I started a thread to hopefully address this problem here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4929193#post4929193).
Well, I gave in and forced the install via
dpkg -i --force-architecture *.debEverything seems to be working, except the fiel browser and some other things look a little funky.If anyone successfully builds it on 64-bit please tell me. You can see how far I got in my thread here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4929193#post4929193).

[ugm6hr]

Well, I gave in and forced the install via
dpkg -i --force-architecture *.debEverything seems to be working, except the file browser and some other things look a little funky.If anyone successfully builds it on 64-bit please tell me. You can see how far I got in my thread here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4929193#post4929193).

If you force dpkg, can you still uninstall in the future? I might do the same, but don't want to be left with a permanent 32-bit package if a genuine 64-bit version comes out in the future.

[nirudha]

I downloaded the final v3 x64 debs from the openoffice site and installed via sudo dpkg -i *.deb and it works fine. This is on Hardy. The problem is the package manager pops up wants to do a partial upgrade which is to remove all the openoffice components. Until I do that I cannot use the package manager again. Anyone know a workaround for this?

[turvyc]

Wow, I wish I'd found this post an hour ago!!!!!
Oh, the things I've learned . . .