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oxEz
October 18th, 2005, 01:42 AM
How come some people in these forums just write "kernel" as "kernal". I don't want to start a flame war or anything I'm just curious..

And yes I find it annoying but oh well..

zenwhen
October 18th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Because they can't spell.

lyam_kaskade
October 18th, 2005, 01:47 AM
No idea. I haven't noticed.
But:


kernel



(Note: NOT "kernal").

1. <operating system> The essential part of Unix or other
operating systems, responsible for resource allocation,
low-level hardware interfaces, security etc. See also
microkernel.

pmj
October 18th, 2005, 01:57 AM
Results 1 - 10 of about 994 from ubuntuforums.org for kernal. (0.44 seconds) :)

Stormy Eyes
October 18th, 2005, 01:58 AM
How come some people in these forums just write "kernel" as "kernal". I don't want to start a flame war or anything I'm just curious..

Perhaps they're spelling it as they pronounce it.

Kapre
October 18th, 2005, 02:15 AM
I would go with what StormyEyes stated above. Some people just write it how it sounds and dont bother (as long as the reader will understand what they are trying to convey).

K

Sirin
October 18th, 2005, 02:15 AM
Results 1 - 10 of about 994 from ubuntuforums.org for kernal. (0.44 seconds) :)

Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 656,000 from the entire web for kernal. (0.75 seconds) :D

raublekick
October 18th, 2005, 05:49 AM
it's spelled "kernle"

skoal
October 18th, 2005, 06:05 AM
To el or not to al, that is the question I ask of thee.

An etymology lesson first...

kern - n. less commonly used to imply an awkard or careless person, an oaf.

el - suffix. of summarian and semetic origins depicting God like or super human abilities. For example, Jorel was the father of Superman.

al - suffix. forms an adjective of a noun. For example, I have a personal problem.

So, where does that leave us? Well...

Assuming the poster is a kern having some difficulty reaching a solution on their own...

"I have a kernel problem!" could very well mean:

I followed the ubuntu wiki, but even with my superhuman l33t like codemonkey compiling skillz I always get an error on '# make olbconfig'.

roll with me now...

and "I have a kernal problem!" would therefore imply:

Someone told me to use the Wiki. What's a wiki??? Is that like a female wookie or something?

[...]

And what are my philosophical conslusions on the matter?

Well, If you ask me, Linus really doesn't get enough credit for all the hard work he put into the colonel...

\\//_

UbuWu
October 18th, 2005, 04:12 PM
Perhaps because not all people here have English as their native language?

Master Shake
October 18th, 2005, 04:51 PM
What many people realise is that its really spelled Qkernzel, its just that the Q and Z are silent.

:D

Nu-Buntu
October 18th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Unless you're in the military, then it's "COLONEL".

Or if you are from Krypton, then it is Kern-El. Wasn't he Superman's uncle or something? :D

Sirin
October 18th, 2005, 06:00 PM
it's spelled "kernle"

I see... :)

Jenda
October 18th, 2005, 06:03 PM
I can explain that. I encountered this before, so I know where to go. I summon Wikipedia to my aid:
What they mean is: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29)

In computer engineering, the kernel is the core of an operating system. It is a piece of software responsible for providing secure access to the machine's hardware and to various computer processes (a process is a computer program in a state of execution). Since there are many programs, and hardware access is limited, the kernel also decides when and how long a program should be able to make use of a piece of hardware, which is called scheduling. Accessing the hardware directly can be very complex, since there are many different hardware designs for the same type of component. Kernels usually implement some hardware abstraction (a set of instructions universal to all devices of a certain type) to hide the underlying complexity from the operating system and provide a clean and uniform interface to the hardware, which helps application programmers to develop programs that work with all devices of that type. The Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) then relies upon a software driver that provides the instructions specific to that device's manufacturing specifications.
Whereas what they say is: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL)

The KERNAL is Commodore's name for the ROM-resident operating system core in its 8-bit home computers; from the original PET of 1977, via the extended, but strongly related, versions used in its successors; the VIC-20, C64, Plus/4, C16, and C128. (...) The Commodore computers' KERNAL consisted of the OS routines (in contrast to the BASIC interpreter routines, also located in ROM) and was user callable via a jump table whose central (oldest) part, for reasons of backwards compatibility, remained largely identical throughout the whole 8-bit series. For a small example of applying the KERNAL, see Hello world program. The presented code stub employs the CHROUT routine, found at address $FFD2 (65490), to send a text string to the default output device (e.g., the display screen). (...) According to early Commodore 'myth' and reported by writer/programmer Jim Butterfield among others, the word KERNAL is an acronym (or maybe more likely, a backronym) standing for Keyboard Entry Read, Network, And Link, which in fact makes good sense considering its role. There's also, however, a theory that the word originated as a misspelling of the word "kernel" (= OS core) by some unknown Commodore employee. Berkeley Softworks later used Commodore's (mis?)spelling for naming the core routines of its GUI OS for 8-bit home computers: the GEOS KERNAL.

The (completely different) OS core in the 16/32-bit Commodore Amiga series was called the Amiga ROM Kernel, i.e. using the correct spelling of kernel.

Master Shake
October 18th, 2005, 06:30 PM
According to Snoop Dogg, its spelled Kernizzle

Lord Illidan
October 18th, 2005, 06:41 PM
Actually, isn't a kernel a nut? So isn't Linux a nutcase? lol..

I always spell and pronounce it as kernel with an e...

skoal
October 18th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Or if you are from Krypton, then it is Kern-El. Wasn't he Superman's uncle or something? :D
haha, that's good shiznitt, brother. But I thought Kern-El was what Worf called his brother at the battle of Kum-zha-kaplar?

muahaha...

\\//_

az
October 18th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Unless you're in the military, then it's "COLONEL".

Or if you are from Krypton, then it is Kern-El. Wasn't he Superman's uncle or something? :D
Kal-el. And they use synaptics touchpads....

majikstreet
October 19th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Unless you're in the military, then it's "COLONEL".

Or if you are from Krypton, then it is Kern-El. Wasn't he Superman's uncle or something? :D
Yessir, Colonel!

TravisNewman
October 19th, 2005, 12:33 AM
I think Nu-buntu meant KERN-el was his uncle, whereas he himself was KAL-el.
Nicholas Cage just recently had a baby (er... well, his wife did) and his name is Kal-El Cage.

My mom is the worst. She labels everything, and when we were moving me out, she was labeling boxes of computer equipment. Words like "motem" (modem) and other misspellings cropped up quite a bit.

oxEz
October 19th, 2005, 07:13 AM
Perhaps because not all people here have English as their native language?

My native language is french, and kernel is french is "noyau" (new-i-o). I was just curious why people spell it "kernal" when in Linux docs it's always KERNEL. Maybe just a habit..

zenrox
October 19th, 2005, 07:37 AM
for me is casue i spell as it sounds one myth saulved
:confused:

BoyOfDestiny
October 19th, 2005, 01:03 PM
My native language is french, and kernel is french is "noyau" (new-i-o). I was just curious why people spell it "kernal" when in Linux docs it's always KERNEL. Maybe just a habit..

We need an "Académie française" for anglais. :)

If it makes you feel better I have a little OCD streak, so I like to spell things properly. :)

Jenda
October 19th, 2005, 09:46 PM
I'm not a native english speaker either. But what I posted earlier is true: The Linux kernel is NOT the same thing as the Commodore KERNAL. Notice capitalisation. KERNAL is an acronym (or a backronym, who knows).

jeremy
October 20th, 2005, 05:52 AM
I have never spelt 'kernel' as 'kernal', but do often type a instead of e by mistake if I'm in a hurry.