iTunes Linux project petition

[IHATEDLINK]

Welcome to the iTunes Linux Project!
Here you will find Information about the Project, a way to contribute, iTunes alternatives for Linux, and a guide on how to install iTunes on Ubuntu.

1. The Project
This is the iTunes feedback page:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

And this is the iTunes project:
If you like iTunes go to the iTunes feedback page and ask for a Linux version of it.
There is also an online petition that you can sign (http://www.petitiononline.com/itmslin/petition.html).
I know it's hard we make a difference but maybe we will. Maybe if 1000 users reclaim a Linux version in a day they will consider it, and maybe, MAYBE, even release a Wine compatible version.
Anyway YOU can make a difference.
If you are an iTunes fan like me don't be lazy, a few clicks, just for hope.
And if you are NOT please help us.
And i know there are great alternatives for Ubuntu, yes, but iTunes is just so much better, and nothing syncs better with my iPod.
Thanks in advance
Remember to reply once you finish.



2. HOWTO: Install iTunes on Ubuntu Linux
You don't want to wait for a Linux version? Want to install iTunes right now? Here's how it done:

1. The Wine Way:
Yes, it can be done.
I found THIS (http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/10/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html) guide available online.
Pros: It's free, It's the easiest way to do this.
Cons: No iPod support, buggy, it doesn't work for everyone, there are some problems with the store.

NOTE: There are some other methods to do it with wine. Keep googleing!

2. VMware & Dual-Boot

This method is for user that can't live without iTunes.
There are several way's to do this to:

VMware Click HERE (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209) for a VMware guide.
Pros: It's iTunes, fully functional. You can run EVERY SINGLE WINDOWS PROGRAM YOU WISH.
Cons: You HAVE *cough* to purchase a Windows license. It's Windows and all the crap that it involves. It's a little slower than average.

Dual-booting

With XP
Click HERE (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_instal led_first.htm)for Ubuntu installed first or HERE (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm) for XP installed first
With Vista
Click HERE (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_ installed.htm) for Ubuntu installed first or HERE (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_f irst.htm) for Vista installed first

Pros: It's iTunes, fully functional. You can run EVERY SINGLE WINDOWS PROGRAM YOU WISH.
Cons: You HAVE *cough* to purchase a Windows license. It's Windows and all the crap that it involves.

3. iTunes Alternatives:
So you refuse to use the Buggy Wine method or to install XP??
Try the fallowing alternatives:

Amarok (http://amarok.kde.org)
Banshee (http://www.banshee-project.org)
Rythmbox (http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/)
Floola (http://www.floola.com/)
Songbird (http://www.songbirdnest.com/)
gtkpod (http://www.gtkpod.org/)*
Yamipod (http://www.yamipod.com/)*
*Only iPod support.

What about the store?
Amarok and the latest version of Ryhtmbox come with the Magnatune music store integrated. But what about the others?
Well just open your good-old web browser and check out the fallowing DRM-free and available at any location in the world Online Music Stores!:
GoMusic (http://www.gomusic.ru/)
Audiolunchbox (http://www.audiolunchbox.com/)
PayPlay.FM (http://payplay.fm/)
Magnatune (http://www.magnatune.com/)

These are just a few of the many available stores so keep googleing!
You can also check out Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/) that offers free legal downloads. (VERY COOL :D)

HELP US
If you like iTunes, if this guide helped you or if you are just a good person please help us spread the message! Add a link this thread in your signature, point out people who would like iTunes on Linux here, any help would be much appreciated. Please contact me if you do so so I can add you to the contributors list.
Thanks for reading.

Contributors so far:
eragon100
gameryoshi600
phr0ze

[Kingsley]

Hmm...

Is there a script that'll automatically fill in all those fields for me?

[bsharp]

The only reason I would go for this is for the iTunes Store. gtkpod works fine for me, but most of the music I listen to is very hard to find in the U.S and I have to either import a CD for $30 or boot to Windows for iTunes.

[HangukMiguk]

This will go by the wayside much like attempts to get Blizzard to release a Linux compatible version of Starcraft/WoW

[IHATEDLINK]

I know it seems useless but any help will be much appreciated HangukMiguk.

[IHATEDLINK]

No there arn't any scripts... :(
Please do it your self :)

[zmjjmz]

I think the big problem here is Apple porting quicktime to Linux, or rewriting iTunes to use gstreamer or something.

[abuakel]

Although this is a long shot and I'm quite doubtful, what harm will come of doing it.. and it won't take much time.. so why not? :)

[Frak]

I think the big problem here is Apple porting quicktime to Linux, or rewriting iTunes to use gstreamer or something.
Meh, Apple has a secret hate for gstreamer. If its useful, and not branded by Apple, they always try to find a way to buy it out. CUPS for example.

[myusername]

i will try it

[Iandefor]

iTunes works fine in WINE as of .9.58 (http://iandefor.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/wine-0958-rocks/). Hardy currently has .9.59 in the repos and winehq's repo has .9.61 right now.

Just use that, it'll be less of a waste of time than petitioning Apple for a port.

[swoll1980]

This will go by the wayside much like attempts to get Blizzard to release a Linux compatible version of Starcraft/WoW

WOW runs fine on Linux/wine

[penguin steve]

i did it...

[RiceMonster]

I've never really understood what's so great about iTunes, other than for an iPod. I don't own an iPod, so I never really used it. I used foobar2000 when I was using Windows. Winamp was pretty nice too.

[marym]

Me, I am Me, I am not a number - see below


Brought to You by the Letter R
Linux user number 467833 Machine registration number 376280 Ubuntu User number is # 21026

[Bastaard]

Why the hell would people want to use iTunes?

[Incense]

We have a lot of media players already, and most of them work great with ipods. Why not just support a company like the amazon mp3 store, who have not only released a native linux client of their software, but also have DRM free downloads?

[billgoldberg]

HEYY
This is the iTunes feedback page:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

And this is my useless plan:
If you like iTunes go to the iTunes feedback page and ask for a Linux version of it.
I know it's hard we make a difference but maybe we will. Maybe if 1000 users reclaim a Linux version in a day they will consider it, and maybe, MAYBE, even release a Wine compatible version.
Anyway YOU can make a difference.
If you are an iTunes fan like me don't be lazy, a few clicks, just for hope.
And if you are NOT please help us.
And i know there are great alternatives for Ubuntu, yes, but iTunes is just so much better, and nothing syncs better with my iPod.
Thanks in advance

Remember to reply when you feedbacked(?) iTunes!

I'll pass.

I dislike everything Apple stands for and produces.

[rudihawk]

Dear Customer:

Thank you for your feedback regarding iTunes. We cannot respond to you personally, but please know that your message has been received and will be reviewed by the iTunes Team. If we need to follow up with you on your ideas for improving iTunes, we will contact you directly.

We appreciate your assistance in making iTunes better.

iTunes Team
Apple

I did it, the more software we can get to work with linux the better for everyone...

[Swarms]

We have a lot of media players already, and most of them work great with ipods. Why not just support a company like the amazon mp3 store, who have not only released a native linux client of their software, but also have DRM free downloads?

Still USA only?

[GavinZac]

Apple hate Linux. It won't happen.

Linux is an alternative to "PC", i.e. Windows, except its free and works on pretty much any hardware you'd like without having to pay extra for a specific Apple laptop and look. Apple would prefer if Linux died.

[Frak]

We have a lot of media players already, and most of them work great with ipods. Why not just support a company like the amazon mp3 store, who have not only released a native linux client of their software, but also have DRM free downloads?
Zune marketplace
DRM-Free downloads

[sajro]

The only reason I would go for this is for the iTunes Store. gtkpod works fine for me, but most of the music I listen to is very hard to find in the U.S and I have to either import a CD for $30 or boot to Windows for iTunes.

Well, it's not the only way...

[phrostbyte]

Apple hate Linux. It won't happen.

Linux is an alternative to "PC", i.e. Windows, except its free and works on pretty much any hardware you'd like without having to pay extra for a specific Apple laptop and look. Apple would prefer if Linux died.

Yeah. With Linux in the picture all there "LOL! LOL! PC is teh suxxxx buy Apple crap" loses all it's cred..

:KS

[IHATEDLINK]

iTunes works fine in WINE as of .9.58 (http://iandefor.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/wine-0958-rocks/). Hardy currently has .9.59 in the repos and winehq's repo has .9.61 right now.

Just use that, it'll be less of a waste of time than petitioning Apple for a port.

It works under wine, yes. But it´s buggy, NOT fully fonctional, slow, and it doesn´t sync with iPod.

[qazwsx]

Double post. Sorry

[qazwsx]

When pigs fly.
Apple can't convert large masses to use OSX from Linux side.

Why yet another media player for Linux?

Good documentation for devices and store should be enough.
Why someone wants to install proprietary player :confused:

[IHATEDLINK]

When pigs fly.
Apple can't convert large masses to use OSX from Linux side.

Why yet another media player for Linux?

Good documentation for devices and store should be enough.
Why someone wants to install proprietary player :confused:

Because of the beautiful way that it syncs with my iPod, because of the clean and easy to use interface, the iTunes store, podcasts, and movie-renting ALL-IN-ONE....

[days_of_ruin]

When pigs fly.
Apple can't convert large masses to use OSX from Linux side.

Why yet another media player for Linux?

Good documentation for devices and store should be enough.
Why someone wants to install proprietary player :confused:

+1.Just switch to a different mp3 player.DRM FAILS!
Lol they wouldn't make it until they made a linux version of safari so itunes
could download it without asking.:lolflag:

[perlluver]

I filled it out, considering Macintosh is built off of BSD, I figured they should be able to build a Linux version, with no problems.

[timcredible]

Apple would prefer if Linux died.
not true - apple os/x is linux with gnome window manager - if linux died, so would apple os/x.

[Incense]

not true - apple os/x is linux with gnome window manager - if linux died, so would apple os/x.

Not quite....not even close really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X


Mac OS X was a radical departure from previous Macintosh operating systems; its underlying code base is completely different from previous versions. Its core is a Unix-like operating system (OS) built on top of the XNU kernel, with standard Unix facilities available from the command line interface (Apple released this core as a free and open source operating system named Darwin). Over this core, Apple layered a number of components, including the Aqua interface and the Finder, to complete the GUI-based operating system which is Mac OS X

[mustang]

I don't quite see the need anymore frankly. Amazon's platform independent music service changed the whole game---I have no desire for iTunes anymore. And if you want a similar player, can't you use RythmBox or similar clones?

[retrow]

+1 for Apple and iTunes can go fsck themselves.

[ghindo]

I agree witht those who say they don't see the need. Apple's software is bloaty, proprietary, and unnecessary. The iTunes music store can easily be replaced by stores like Amazon or *ahem* other means of obtaining music. If you own an iPod, you can just sync it with one of many Linux music players.

[atomkarinca]

...or *ahem* other means of obtaining music...

I'm sure by "other means" you mean like Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/), Grooveshark (http://www.grooveshark.com/), Furthur (http://furthurnet.org/) or bt.etree.org (http://bt.etree.org/) :)

[ghindo]

I'm sure by "other means" you mean like Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/), Grooveshark (http://www.grooveshark.com/), Furthur (http://furthurnet.org/) or bt.etree.org (http://bt.etree.org/) :)But of course!

[Swarms]

So if I just plug my iPhone into my laptop with Amarok or other player and required plugins, it will just sync it, iTunes style?


I don't quite see the need anymore frankly. Amazon's platform independent music service changed the whole game.

Yeah for USA...

[RiceMonster]

I never understood paying for mp3s anyway. If I pay for it, I want the actual CD with artwork, etc. Yeah it's more expensive, but that's really why I pay for music. If I don't have a real physical copy, I don't feel like I really own it.

[gameryoshi600]

done! we do need the official because syncing w/ other programs makes me feel funny... so we need iTunes.

[Exsecrabilus]

I SENT FEEDBACK!

I changed every choice so it would make them more want to read the comment. :D

[IHATEDLINK]

Thanks a lot.



I changed every choice so it would make them more want to read the comment. :D

LOL :D

[highfructose327]

I signed it good luck !

[Frak]

not true - apple os/x is linux with gnome window manager - if linux died, so would apple os/x.
Which apple site did you go to?

Mac OS X uses a FreeBSD core subsytem
It has a PROPRIETARY visual and graphics layer (Aqua and Quartz)
It does though use programs that are used in common with Linux.

[tubasoldier]

I own an iMac. I have all my music on my Mac as well as on my Linux box. I personally believe that iTunes blows goats. You have to organize your music accoring to the way iTunes wants it and not as you prefer it. Don't make the misteak to let iTunes organize your music. That will screw your organization up. As for browsing through your music iTunes is a joke. Either you search for it or you browse through your music using only the ugly genere/artist/album dialog. Lets not forget that half of iTunes exists just to point you towards the ITMS. No thank you, Apple, I bought your iMac and now I'm broke.

Amarok is freedom. iTunes is not. I patiently await the day for KDE 4.1 so I can run Amarok on OSX natively.

[stinger30au]

i have signed as well asking for Ubuntu support

[jethro10]

I'll pass.

I dislike everything Apple stands for and produces.

Me too, BUT if Apple did this, and it brought millions more to Linux, then you would have done a worthy job.

Think a bit deeper, it not just about you (or me!)

J

[fwre01]

Well said jethro10,

I signed it, i think bringing itunes over to linux would deffinately help the linux community by convincing more people to switch.

I really hope apple do this, but in the back of my mind im sensing that they wont

[ghindo]

It may bring more people to Linux, but what reasons would those people be switching for? And would it be a good thing?

[Frak]

Apple does not support an enemy, and Apple does not make unnecessary ports.

Seriously, there is no reason to follow this up. It's childish to think that Apple would seriously do anything. Apple has a hard enough time trying to get people to come to its platform (for much the same reason as Linux does: Games, Entertainment, Office, etc). To think that they would just throw away one of their prized bait apps is illogical.

Also, to think that Apple would also support Ubuntu is a joke. I've dealt with Apple before, and they try their best to not port anything they don't have to. Safari was only ported to show off that, for instance, if a browser is good enough to run on Windows, then it is good enough for anybody (much like the Firefox mentality). iTunes was ported to make MONEY from the heavy marketshare of Windows users, but with the dwindling share of Linux users, there is no actual benefit toward a port.

[drascus]

I won't add my name to this list because Itunes supports DRM and we should always oppose introducing DRM onto our systems.

[illusionweaver]

I've submitted a comment. I think that a Linux version of iTunes would be a positive development for Linux, after all, isn't more choice in software better?

[aysiu]

Seriously, there is no reason to follow this up. It's childish to think that Apple would seriously do anything. Apple has a hard enough time trying to get people to come to its platform (for much the same reason as Linux does: Games, Entertainment, Office, etc). To think that they would just throw away one of their prized bait apps is illogical. Frak brings up a good point.

It's a nice idea (re: naive) to think "Hey, because a lot of people like iTunes or think they need it and would also like to use Linux, maybe Apple will be considerate and port it to Linux."

Apple isn't about being considerate or trying to please users. Apple is about making money, and its primary money-maker is hardware. It makes software to sell hardware. The only reason they ported iTunes to Windows was to sell iPods to Windows users (and Windows has a huge consumer marketshare, unlike Linux).

There's no indication, based on what I've seen on these forums, that Apple would increase its iPod sales by porting iTunes to Linux. First of all, the Linux home user marketshare is as small as Apple's Mac marketshare, if not smaller. Secondly, let's take a look at the different groups in that small marketshare with regard to the iPod: Linux users who refuse to support Apple or prefer other players to iPods Linux users who have an iPod leftover from using Windows and have made it work with Linux Linux users who actually like iPods and have made it work with Linux It's possible that the second group (Linux users who have an iPod leftover) might potentially not buy an iPod due to the lack of iTunes on Linux, but they may also buy one anyway and make it work on Linux. So given there are only millions of Linux home users worldwide and only a small portion of those might buy an iPod if iTunes were ported to Linux, would you port it if you were Apple?

[phr0ze]

Here is what I said to apple. I don't think it will change their minds, but I'll give it a try anyways. BTW: Sign the petition in my SIG. It has lots of signatures already!


I am a long time Itunes/Ipod fan. I have bought every Ipod released, usually on the week it's released. I even am an early user of the Apple TV. I have also purchased over 600 tracks in the Itunes music store (check my account). I love these services but I have switched from Windows to Linux (Ubuntu) last year. It is becoming very difficult for me to use my Apple TV and my Ipod in the way I have become accustomed. You will notice that my music store purchases in the last year have become almost nil. I am having a hard time using any of this and when I buy a new player this year to replace my 3g Ipod Nano video, it will probably not be an ipod.

I find it strange that the software keeping me in windows most is made by a MS competitor. You would think Apple would not stand in the way of anyone switching from windows, even if it's not to their own system.

You can check my registrations and accounts to see the hundreds of dollars I spend a year on apple products. This money will not be coming to you in the near future.

BTW: Amazon now supports linux for their music. I don't really care about the DRM/Non-DRM issue, but now atleast I have a way to buy music again.

[aysiu]

The first part was good, since you focused on the money they're now losing from you as a former customer, but the second part makes no sense. Apple has no vested interest in moving users from Windows to Linux. They are not anti-Microsoft any more than they are anti-Linux.

It makes far more sense to just leave it as, "Too bad you're losing my business, as I would have kept buying iPods and iTunes music tracks if iTunes were available on Linux."

[phr0ze]

Apple is a windows competitor and the OS isn't their only business. I would consider buying a Mac for the style of it because they make some of the most attractive hardware. However I would put linux on it. Do they loose much money if I do that?

I sure don't see how it hurts them to support linux.

Anyways, I know what you are saying. I choose to disagree.

Thanks,
John

[aysiu]

Apple is a windows competitor and the OS isn't their only business. I would consider buying a Mac for the style of it because they make some of the most attractive hardware. However I would put linux on it. Do they loose much money if I do that? No. They don't lose much money at all. Their main thing is hardware. Yes, they also make money off sales of iTunes, iWork, Apple Care, and Mac OS X DVDs, but their main source of income is their hardware, so if you buy an Apple computer and install Linux on it, they're happy. Of course, if you'd kept OS X on it, they'd be happier.

[lespaul_rentals]

I think the big problem here is Apple porting quicktime to Linux, or rewriting iTunes to use gstreamer or something.

Hopefully not. xine is far better.

[dca]

I don't see any Linux iTunes client in the foreseeable future. Both Linux & OSX are POSIX-compliant OS(s), one built from Minix, one ported from BSD Unix. You can't tell me that Apple will make a vers for Linux, Apple HATES Linux... Apple wants there to be two OS(s) in the desktop market. Their's and Gates', period. Vista has caused even tech shops to re-think deployment of Vista in favor of purchasing Macs.

I've stopped looking at these issue(s) (codecs, Adobe CS/Acrobat, iTunes, etc) based on morality and common sense. Now I look at things from the company's perspective: money.

[IHATEDLINK]

Safari was only ported to show off that, for instance, if a browser is good enough to run on Windows, then it is good enough for anybody (much like the Firefox mentality).

I thought Safari was ported to Windows for developers to make iPhone web apps. (iPhone uses Safari)

[Frak]

I thought Safari was ported to Windows for developers to make iPhone web apps. (iPhone uses Safari)
I would doubt that since the debugger is only available in the standalone installer (remember how installing quicktime or iTunes added Safari to its need-to-be-updated components?)

Also, once I think about it. There is an SDK for iPhone Safari that only works on OS X.

[IHATEDLINK]

I would doubt that since the debugger is only available in the standalone installer (remember how installing quicktime or iTunes added Safari to its need-to-be-updated components?)

Also, once I think about it. There is an SDK for iPhone Safari that only works on OS X.


Yeah, you're probably right. I just thought that because Safari for Windows was released a few weeks before the iPhone, and in the downloads page for Safari there was a big sign who said: "Web Developers: iPhone uses Safari blablabla.. But the SDK thing convinced me.

Anyway PLEASE vote, not for you, but for the part of the community who wants it. A couple of clicks can do a difference!

[Frak]

Yeah, you're probably right. I just thought that because Safari for Windows was released a few weeks before the iPhone, and in the downloads page for Safari there was a big sign who said: "Web Developers: iPhone uses Safari blablabla.. But the SDK thing convinced me.

Anyway PLEASE vote, not for you, but for the part of the community who wants it. A couple of clicks can do a difference!
I already did.

[IHATEDLINK]

I already did.
Gee, thanks :P

[TBOL3]

I would, but I'm paranoid to give apple my information... (goes and hides in a dark corner)

[ntowakbh]

I've sent feedback to Apple, even though I don't have an iPod, don't use iTunes, nor like Apple in general. :P

[IHATEDLINK]

I've sent feedback to Apple, even though I don't have an iPod, don't use iTunes, nor like Apple in general. :P

Thanks, that's the spirit!!

[kamitsukai]

lol

[IHATEDLINK]

I would, but I'm paranoid to give apple my information... (goes and hides in a dark corner)

Apple Customer Privacy Policy (http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/)

[markyb]

I have also put in a request.

[theumang]

Nyc work done Ihatedlink..

Taken gr8 initiative, I hope Apple realizes that Ubuntu is not a small chunk of users and we get the itunes on ubuntu asap.

I have sent the Feedback too...

[IHATEDLINK]

I hope Apple realizes that Ubuntu is not a small chunk of users.

That's the point of the project. Thanks for your support!:)

[VTshredder]

I also sent Apple my 2 cents, even though my iPod has been collecting dust prior to me switching to Linux.

I took the same route as phr0ze, and was sure to include my account info (in relation to purchases via iTunes as well as the long list of iPod's i have purchased in the past). Not sure how that will change the minds of the higher ups at Apple, but as mentioned, it cant hurt and always good to show them the sales they have lost from a long time customer.

Also, many of you are blaming the wrong people for DRM on iTunes. This was a contractual issue with the "Majors" and beyond the control of Apple iTunes. Take it from someone in the music biz. ;)
Hence many new releases now DRM free on iTunes, as contracts are changing and being updated. Just an FYI.

[Johnsie]

I dont like apple and they dont like Linux. We're competing against them for the #2 position in the OS world. Someone should release a viable ipod competitior that's open. Don't just get an Ipod because your mates have one. Look for the many alternativeplayers and look for alternative music stores who actually support free music and musicians. There are thousands of great musicians out there just waiting to be discovered and the chances are that they are not on Itunes.

[Hells_Dark]

Well.. i have an ipod..
and i SO don't care to have itunes that i don't like.

[jumponskis]

<snip> man! I have to have iTunes 7.7! I need to get to the store to buy the <snip> app store software upgrade for my 'Pod! :mad:

[allforcarrie]

banshee is the hottness.

[Redrazor39]

done and done :)

[estyles]

If you truly love iTunes that much, then good luck with your campaign. More power to you.

But I really can't see where you're coming from. I hated iTunes when I put it on my PC, but I dealt with it because I didn't know I had any other options. Now that I can't use iTunes, man am I glad! =) Amarok is awesome. Banshee is supposed to be pretty good. And other than the poor iPod support, Rythmbox is actually a pretty nice little music player that is way less bloated and more feature-rich than iTunes. I assume you've tried Amarok if you're this gung-ho about getting iTunes ported to Linux. But if you haven't, do yourself a favor and try it.

Gah, I hate iTunes!

[Saint Angeles]

why does anybody like itunes? i just spent the worst half hour of my day on my windows partition. everything went wrong. i plugged in my 80GB iPod Classic (6th Gen) and whenever i clicked on a song to play it, it erased the track.

luckily when i rebooted into linux, the tracks were still there. thats because rhythmbox actually works.

[geoken]

Why not vote with your wallet and buy a linux compatible player.

[pi.boy.travis]

I have Windows Vista still around on a 30GB partition and the only app it runs is iTunes.

[ryaxnb]

I think more practical would be to donate to the great developers of gtkpod and Rhythymbox, and ask Apple to "help" the rhythymbox/gtkpod developers sync with new iPhones and such.

[estyles]

Or demand a refund from Apple for making their stuff crippleware. Not that it would work, but it's an idea. ;)

[DeadSuperHero]

Face it, iTunes on Linux just wouldn't work. There's too many distros that use varying libraries, and iTunes is closed. So, you wouldn't be able to re-compile it. If it depended on a certain library that might have broken compatibility, there wouldn't be much any FOSS developers could do about it.

[the_hardy_kid]

I voted in the online thingie...

But I don't see why you don't just use Amarok or Rhythmbox?

Meh, I did my part...

[Metaleks]

I don't see the appeal in supporting something that is closed (iTunes) as opposed to one of the (and in my opinion - better) alternatives like Banshee or Amarok. In short: screw iTunes...

[Mic_Droz]

Just for the record, I don't like using Banshee - it doesn't do anything i want to, though it looks nice.

Its Amorak all the way for me, even though its slightly odd - but feature wise, its brilliant, syncs the ipods, syncs with my walkman phone like no other player can (you can set a special directory structure when you transfer to the device, which none of the other programs can - this inturn destroys my artist nd album tags in the phone's player...). If only it was Gnome native, i'd be so pleased.

Exaile has potential... but its pretty short on things too - and it refuses to transfer songs to the iPods...

iTUnes... i was sort of missing it and the way it organised my music collection, but Amorak has filled the gap brilliantly - and coupled with MusicBrainz Picard, I'm completely satisfied... that is, until i buy an iPhone, have to jailbreak it, void the warranty etc...

So, what I really want, other than iTUnes, is some *nice* way to sync with the iPhone 3G and all its features... and I'm perfectly happy to do this in Linux.

[kahlil88]

Not really a fan of iTunes. It does too many things that annoy me, like the cruddy way it handles its music library. Exaile (http://www.exaile.org), Banshee and Amarok are your best bets in my opinion. If anything, you should be gathering signatures for an Ogg/FLAC for iTunes petition. We need the big guys to start supporting free formats.

[DigitalDuality]

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[TwiceOver]

Ugh. IMO iTunes is in a tie with Vista for the "Worst Software In the History of All that has Ever Been" award.

[DigitalDuality]

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[TwiceOver]

What? I mean surely Clippy, Win ME, and RealPlayer are worse ;)

I don't know. ME was bad, Realplayer is a POS but I just can't get past the clunkyness of iTunes. When my wife got her iPod I installed iTunes for her, started the library sync of the music off of our home server. 12 hours later it finished.

I just did the same thing in Amarok the other day with even more music now and it completed in 10 minutes.

Apple is so well known for their userfriendly stylish hardware/software but in the case of iTunes "If you polish a turd, it's still a turd".

[Dismissed]

I hope after seeing I am signature number 14080 that Apple takes the initiative to be different than Blizzard and other Linux-hatin' software companies and make an iTunes for us. I not holding my breath or anything, but... who knows, with enough of us doing this maybe for once all those proprietary, non-open source ingrates actually takes us seriously for once and listen to our demands. :lolflag:

[TBOL3]

I don't think this will work, online petitions never do.

[Foster Grant]

Pigs will fly before Apple releases iTunes for Linux (and it's not based on Webkit).

Try Songbird (http://getsongbird.com/).

[unfairman]

I agree iTunes is clunky, but I'm in a mode of find-the-easiest-solution right now. If I can get iTunes working fully on Ubuntu, I'm done. If not, I want to transfer more than just my music. In particular I want to keep:

My ratings
My artwork
My playlists
Other info I've entered (Custom genres, some BPM info, etc.)

Does anything out there help with the transition to this extent?

BTW: I did send a request to iTunes support for a Linux version, although I doubt those in-boxes get read by humans.

[Dremora]

Why do you want itunes? It's horrid!

[aysiu]

Why do you want itunes? It's horrid!
What's so horrid about it? Please, be factually specific. Do not use abstract terms like bloated.

[Dremora]

What's so horrid about it? Please, be factually specific. Do not use abstract terms like bloated.

Uses a ton of resources.

Doesn't have any "features" that readily available free software doesn't, except for the ability to sell you DRM poisoned low quality songs, other than this it's essentially poorly written adware.

Nothing works correctly, it rips the Human Interface Guidelines from OS X and slaps them into Windows XP/Vista, so it just "feels" wrong.

At the risk of being redundant, Apple makes it. :lolflag:

I couldn't see them releasing it for Linux anyway, they are almost as hostile to free software as Microsoft is, they scavenge whatever they can because it beats paying people to work for them and write it, but they always prefer licenses where they can horde everything and give little or nothing back, or under their own semi-free terms.

I am fairly apathetic towards Apple, and I hate DRM.

[estyles]

What's so horrid about it? Please, be factually specific. Do not use abstract terms like bloated.

Well, it's bloated, for one... ;)

By which I mean it takes up way more system resources than any other program I've used for a similar task.

More importantly to me, it has a dearth of features, and the features that it does have tend to be only invokable in one possible way. That is, frex, to burn a CD, I have to notice that there's a "burn CD" button, rather than look through the menus and find that same command somewhere in there, or right click and choose "burn" from a menu. There are plugins available, but they tend to mostly be of the visualization variety, because the program is completely closed, and thus it is difficult for programmers to extend its functionality. In addition, it uses copy-protection to keep you not only from sharing the songs you download (which is illegal, of course), but also from playing the songs on any other player, or on other computers you own (sure, there's a way to enable other computers, but it is limited and cumbersome - possibly less cumbersome than just burning your songs to CD and then re-ripping them, which I believe is prohibited by their license under the blanket of reverse engineering). I believe it also saves your music under a proprietary format which is difficult to port, though it's been a while since I used iTunes, thank god, so I could be wrong.

In short, it is horrid. Which is a must simpler way of putting it.

[unfairman]

I agree, iTunes is fairly bad compared to today's offerings. But the fact remains that it has tons of users (including me), and they need to be smoothly transitioned.

The question remains: how do you move an iTunes user to Linux without killing all their ratings, playlists, artwork, and other db entries?

[Dremora]

I agree, iTunes is fairly bad compared to today's offerings. But the fact remains that it has tons of users (including me), and they need to be smoothly transitioned.

The question remains: how do you move an iTunes user to Linux without killing all their ratings, playlists, artwork, and other db entries?

Very little that is worth doing, is easy.

Do you know how hard moving *MY* data over was?

I only had to do it once and never needed Microsoft since. ;)

[Kabezon]

I did it, even though I would not even consider using it. iTunes sucks, really. Floola does the same job and a little extra. Only thing it needs is the only shop, but then again there are alternatives to that, shown in the 1st post of this thread.

[jeyaganesh]

Why iTunes? Songbird is exactly looks like iTunes. Give it a try!:guitar:

[Lexicon101]

I prefer elevators. Very soothing, and they don't tell you that you can't leave.

(plus, when they stop going up, you feel like you're floating for a second. Try that with iTunes.)

Still, the iPod functionality is a must for me, so.. it's one of few reasons I boot into XP.

[Brunellus]

I have no desire to bring Apple's walled-garden into the Linux world. iTunes is the poster child of DRM and vendor lock-in. When alternatives exist that permit less restrictive use of music--say, Amazon-- why should I reward Apple's bad licensing with my slavish support?

[estyles]

I prefer elevators. Very soothing, and they don't tell you that you can't leave.

(plus, when they stop going up, you feel like you're floating for a second. Try that with iTunes.)

Still, the iPod functionality is a must for me, so.. it's one of few reasons I boot into XP.

Which iPod functionality? Because most linux music players support syncing your iPod.

[estyles]

I agree, iTunes is fairly bad compared to today's offerings. But the fact remains that it has tons of users (including me), and they need to be smoothly transitioned.

The question remains: how do you move an iTunes user to Linux without killing all their ratings, playlists, artwork, and other db entries?

This should help you transfer your ratings: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481214&highlight=transfer+itunes+ratings+python

Dunno about playlists. When you say artwork, are you talking about album covers? With Amarok, at least, it can fetch album covers automatically, and is pretty good at it. When I moved over to Amarok, it found most of my album covers automatically. Most the others I just had to click on them in the Cover Art Manager (or whatever it's called), and select a cover. There were only 3 that didn't work. One is a friend's band that I made the cover art in photoshop several years ago, so I loaded that up manually, and the other two are a couple of rare albums that don't have the cover art available online anywhere at all.

[aysiu]

I don't know what this business is about it taking up a lot of resources. I use iTunes at work on Windows XP, and the top memory usage goes as follows:

Firefox 73 MB
FileMaker Pro 59 MB
Outlook 48 MB
Thunderbird 41 MB
iTunes 27 MB
There may be better alternatives in terms of features for Linux-based players, but on Windows, I've tried iTunes, the much overhyped Foobar2000, and WinAmp; and iTunes still is the only player that will both allow me to create smart playlists and keep track of playcounts based on songs fully played to the end (not songs that are only started). That's why I use iTunes at work, at with iTunesControl, I can get global hotkeys for it as well.

As for why people might want iTunes on Linux, it may be for the iTunes music store or guaranteed full compatibility with all generations of iPods and iPhones.

You're certainly entitled to use other players, but I still haven't seen any substantiation for people knocking iTunes as "bloated."

There are actually several ways to burn a disc, not the least of which is right-clicking a playlist and selecting Burn playlist to disc

While iTunes doesn't play Ogg, you can certainly change the preferences to rip CDs to MP3 instead of AAC.

Really, I can't (apart from the global hotkeys thing and syncing to non-iPod players) think of anything I would want to do with a music program that iTunes doesn't do.

I have mixed feelings about the whole "let's have an index and make sure you add through iTunes" approach versus the "just plop your songs in a folder, which we'll scan from time to time" approach. On the one hand, I don't like a program saying "You have to go through me" and then organizing files the way it wants them organized. On the other hand, I've found the scanning process to be a bit slow on Rhythmbox and deathly slow on AmaroK.

That said, I don't believe Apple will ever port iTunes to Linux (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/wake-up-call-apple-wont-port-itunes-to-linux-2/), and I have embraced Rhythmbox and Sandisk players as great alternatives to iTunes-in-Wine and iPods.

[Swarms]

Yeah the only reason I am dualbooting is for iTunes, so I can sync my iPhone. But if I am ever able to install Ubuntu Mobile Edition on it, I am all ears!

[ooobuntooo]

I have signed the feedback form and the petition.

[estyles]

I don't know what this business is about it taking up a lot of resources.

Well, what did you mean when you called it bloated, here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes?

Besides taking a long time to load up and seeming to take up way more memory and CPU than should be necessary, I'm also annoyed by the fact that it feels a need to run iTunesHelper as a TSR which occasionally blows up my internet connection (for some reason, iTunesHelper uses the 127.0.* IP address range for something (I think that's the range - it's been a while), even if you don't have an iPod and occasionally it seems to lock up DNS for some people who are on routers, me included). It's impossible to disable iTunesHelper even though there's no reason to have it running at all times, certainly not if you don't have an iPod and just use iTunes for playing music, which I did when I was using Windows. Which reminds me, did you include iTunesHelper when you calculated memory usage (and there might be other things that iTunes runs silently as well... I'm not sure)?

[aysiu]

Well, what did you mean when you called it bloated, here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes? Well, in context, I was talking about my first impressions of it, before I got to actually using it full-time. At first I thought it was trying to do too much (music store, music library, interface to iPod, CD ripper, tagging program). Then, after I got to know the program, I actually loved it and realized it's great having all that integrated together.

Here's the entire paragraph with context:
I remember when iTunes first came on the scene—when my wife and I first got iPods—I hated it. The interface didn't make any sense to me. The whole program seemed to be bloated; it seemed to try to do too much. Then, I got used to it. That's what happens in software. Ideas of intuitiveness or user-friendliness become moot. It's all about what am I used to? When I first migrated to Linux (first Mepis, then Ubuntu), I dual-booted for iTunes. Eventually, I grew out of iTunes and restructured my music lifestyle to fit more with Ubuntu, and I haven't regretted it since.


Which reminds me, did you include iTunesHelper when you calculated memory usage (and there might be other things that iTunes runs silently as well... I'm not sure)? No, I didn't. iTunesCtl.exe is running at 8 MB, and iTunesHelper is running at 2 MB. Still doesn't put it in the range of Firefox or FileMaker Pro. I have 1 GB of RAM at my Windows XP computer at work, and iTunes doesn't affect the performance of the computer at all. Sometimes FileMaker Pro can take quite a while to load, though.

Numbers really don't matter to me, anyway. Performance does. If Firefox is chewing up all my memory, but it doesn't seem to be affecting my work (i.e., the numbers are high, but I can't feel anything getting slower), I don't care. Likewise, for iTunes.

[estyles]

Numbers really don't matter to me, anyway. Performance does. If Firefox is chewing up all my memory, but it doesn't seem to be affecting my work (i.e., the numbers are high, but I can't feel anything getting slower), I don't care. Likewise, for iTunes.

Same here. For me, iTunes noticeably slows down my computer, and I had 1GB when I was using Win2000 as well (I recently upgraded to 3GB so I can run WinXP in a virtual machine for work stuff).

That's not really the reason I hate iTunes - the interface to me is just a huge warty piece of garbage, but it's hard to use subjective things like that to explain why I think it's "horrid". And things like taking down my internet connection randomly is something that doesn't happen for everyone.

[aysiu]

I have seen numerous reports of iTunes working better on Macs than on Windows (wonder if that's intentional on Apple's part to help that whole "halo effect" strategy). I must have good iTunes luck, as I've used it on at least four different Windows computers with no problems.

[Frak]

I have seen numerous reports of iTunes working better on Macs than on Windows (wonder if that's intentional on Apple's part to help that whole "halo effect" strategy). I must have good iTunes luck, as I've used it on at least four different Windows computers with no problems.
Quicktime and iTunes on Mac are integrated with each other. The Quicktime decoder backend starts with the system, and since iTunes is optimized with the SSE3 instruction set, it runs noticeably faster, where on Windows, this is not present for marketing/compatibility concerns. Much of the iTunes UI, if not all, is already loaded with the system (such as quartz, etc.) so launching is nearly seamless, and much of its engine is integrated already, therefore it gives the Mac more of a seamless feeling since it is such a killler-app.

[cardinals_fan]

I hate iTunes because it does much more than I want. All I need is a simple music player that will play oggs and mp3s and that allows me to create simple playlists. iTunes also includes CD ripping, an awful music store, and many other features I don't want.

RealPlayer 11 is my favorite :)

[aysiu]

I hate iTunes because it does much more than I want. All I need is a simple music player that will play oggs and mp3s and that allows me to create simple playlists. iTunes also includes CD ripping, an awful music store, and many other features I don't want. Is that really any reason to hate iTunes? You could also say "I don't use iTunes because it does much more than I want" without hating it.

[fjf]

I MUCH prefer Rockbox to itunes and apple firmware.

[cardinals_fan]

Is that really any reason to hate iTunes? You could also say "I don't use iTunes because it does much more than I want" without hating it.
I forgot to mention that it crashed continuously when I used it on Windows.

[aysiu]

I forgot to mention that it crashed continuously when I used it on Windows.
Well, that would do it.

I have to say, though, (this is a general statement, not one directed at cardinals_fan) I don't understand people's objecting to iTunes being ported simply because they themselves do not like iTunes.

If iTunes is ported, you don't have to use iTunes, and it's highly unlikely that Ubuntu would install iTunes by default even if Apple did port it (which it won't do anyway, so this is all hypothetical).

I don't use or particularly like Fluxbox. Still, I don't deny anyone the right to use it. Same for Kompozer. Same for Exaile. Same for Quod Libet. Same for DigiKam.

Saying "I don't like iTunes, so I don't want it ported" isn't a logical statement, unless you also want to object to every other program you don't like or don't use.

[cardinals_fan]

Well, that would do it.

I have to say, though, (this is a general statement, not one directed at cardinals_fan) I don't understand people's objecting to iTunes being ported simply because they themselves do not like iTunes.

If iTunes is ported, you don't have to use iTunes, and it's highly unlikely that Ubuntu would install iTunes by default even if Apple did port it (which it won't do anyway, so this is all hypothetical).

I don't use or particularly like Fluxbox. Still, I don't deny anyone the right to use it. Same for Kompozer. Same for Exaile. Same for Quod Libet. Same for DigiKam.

Saying "I don't like iTunes, so I don't want it ported" isn't a logical statement, unless you also want to object to every other program you don't like or don't use.
A good point. I have no problem with iTunes being ported. However, I'm not going to try to get it ported - why should I waste my time trying to convince a company I dislike to port an app that I dislike?

[billgoldberg]

Well, that would do it.

I have to say, though, (this is a general statement, not one directed at cardinals_fan) I don't understand people's objecting to iTunes being ported simply because they themselves do not like iTunes.

If iTunes is ported, you don't have to use iTunes, and it's highly unlikely that Ubuntu would install iTunes by default even if Apple did port it (which it won't do anyway, so this is all hypothetical).

I don't use or particularly like Fluxbox. Still, I don't deny anyone the right to use it. Same for Kompozer. Same for Exaile. Same for Quod Libet. Same for DigiKam.

Saying "I don't like iTunes, so I don't want it ported" isn't a logical statement, unless you also want to object to every other program you don't like or don't use.

I think it's more because of it's drm support and the closed sourceness (I'm pretty sure I made that word up) of the software.

--

Also the app is completely unstable.

I decided I wanted to see what the fuss what about and I installed it on my small xp partition.

-> the program wouldn't start.

No error messages, nothing. Installing older version -> the same.

It did however ran some processes at start up without ever asking for it.

[Swarms]

Well, that would do it.

I have to say, though, (this is a general statement, not one directed at cardinals_fan) I don't understand people's objecting to iTunes being ported simply because they themselves do not like iTunes.

If iTunes is ported, you don't have to use iTunes, and it's highly unlikely that Ubuntu would install iTunes by default even if Apple did port it (which it won't do anyway, so this is all hypothetical).

I don't use or particularly like Fluxbox. Still, I don't deny anyone the right to use it. Same for Kompozer. Same for Exaile. Same for Quod Libet. Same for DigiKam.

Saying "I don't like iTunes, so I don't want it ported" isn't a logical statement, unless you also want to object to every other program you don't like or don't use.

Nothing more to say, as long one would like iTunes to run on Ubuntu, there is a reason.

[somekool]

Here is the way I'd like to have it setup.

current:
I have a macbookpro as my main workstation.
and a linux desktop without a monitor.
it is plugged onto my old stereo system and a projector.
it is used as a development server, file sharing server and to display movies/series on my projector. i don't usually listen to music coming from this linux desktop, although I do have a huge collection stored on HD. I usually just plug my ipod shuffle directly onto the stereo using a stereo-jack to RCA plug.

how I'd like it to be:
1: get itunes on my linux, share the music repository, control the linux-itunes with my macbookpro-itunes or even with my iphone

2: setup a rsync of my itunes library, get a open source software which supports the itunes library format and which support to be controlled remotely, either by some king of itunes daap protocol or others or simply me infra-red.

anyone got the perfect idea?

thanks

[Half-Left]

It's laughable that Apple would even entertain the idea of a Itunes port, if it's anything like the window version are you telling me you want it still?

Personally I think their are better music players like Amarok for Linux.

[estyles]

It's laughable that Apple would even entertain the idea of a Itunes port, if it's anything like the window version are you telling me you want it still?

Personally I think their are better music players like Amarok for Linux.

And *that* is why I posted (earlier) in this thread that's asking for an iTunes port. It's not so much that I don't want an iTunes port (although it would take away users from apps like Amarok that I feel are far superior), it's that I don't think other people should want an iTunes port. I feel like the already-available options are better, and starting a petition for iTunes for Linux is a waste of time. I and others have gone into the reasons why we think that. If those reasons are not valid for some people and some people really do want an iTunes port, then more power to them. They are certainly free to continue requesting one. Hopefully they are trying some alternatives in the meantime, as it doesn't appear that iTunes for Linux is coming anytime soon.

[trumpetdude2010]

Here is the way I'd like to have it setup.

current:
I have a macbookpro as my main workstation.
and a linux desktop without a monitor.
it is plugged onto my old stereo system and a projector.
it is used as a development server, file sharing server and to display movies/series on my projector. i don't usually listen to music coming from this linux desktop, although I do have a huge collection stored on HD. I usually just plug my ipod shuffle directly onto the stereo using a stereo-jack to RCA plug.

how I'd like it to be:
1: get itunes on my linux, share the music repository, control the linux-itunes with my macbookpro-itunes or even with my iphone

2: setup a rsync of my itunes library, get a open source software which supports the itunes library format and which support to be controlled remotely, either by some king of itunes daap protocol or others or simply me infra-red.

anyone got the perfect idea?

thanks
@somekool: The answer to your problem is not iTunes on Linux, but MPD (Music Player Daemon). You will find that this solves your problem in the very best way possible.

Steps:

1. Install MPD on your Linux "server". Probably just
sudo apt-get install mpd

2. Install Theremin (a client for MPD that runs on OS X) on your MacBook from here: http://theremin.amd.co.at/0.5.3.2/Theremin_0.5.3.2.tbz

3. Get MPoD for your iPhone from the App Store. This will also remote control your MPD server.

4. If you really need music sharing of some sort, you should already know about Firefly and DAAP support built into most Linux media players. If not, Google is your friend.

Hope this helps.

[azangru]

Half a year, and only 16.5 thousand signatures. I'm beginning to understand what low market share of Linux truly means :(

[Half-Left]

And *that* is why I posted (earlier) in this thread that's asking for an iTunes port. It's not so much that I don't want an iTunes port (although it would take away users from apps like Amarok that I feel are far superior), it's that I don't think other people should want an iTunes port. I feel like the already-available options are better, and starting a petition for iTunes for Linux is a waste of time. I and others have gone into the reasons why we think that. If those reasons are not valid for some people and some people really do want an iTunes port, then more power to them. They are certainly free to continue requesting one. Hopefully they are trying some alternatives in the meantime, as it doesn't appear that iTunes for Linux is coming anytime soon.

Yer and they are dreaming to think that Apple will do it, I think hell will freeze over before Apple will port it and thats being realistic. Apple are so far up their own **** I dont think you could get iTunes out of it anyway.

[Joshuwa]

How many of those who would want iTunes for Linux would actually use the iTunes store to purchase their music?

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That is why, even though I'd be happy to see it, iTunes for Linux is very unlikely.

Mac's cost a lot of money. Apple software costs a lot of money. In general, Apple users are more than happy to pay for their songs. All of which are great.

Linux is free. Linux apps are free. The entire Linux philosophy is built on open source, sharable, data. While I'm not going to call Linux users (myself included) pirates, I will venture to say that I sincerely doubt the music on most of our computers was purchased through the iTunes store.

Apple didn't create iTunes so that Mac, and later Windows, users could listen to the music they already had. They created it as a means to access the iTunes store, and thereby purchase songs, and generate more revenue and business deals for Apple.

A Linux-native client is unlikely because it is unlikely that the users would be accessing the iTunes store to make noticeable contributions ($$) that would help fatten Apple's wallet.

I'd love to see it - I love the iTunes client. But I'm just not counting on it.

Just my $0.02.

[FlashOmega]

Yes but would the linux community buy more ipod's if they could actually transfer their music and videos properly?

[jordey24]

I think hell will freeze over before Apple will port it

It's funny you mention it, when Apple released iTunes for Windows they said " We would do it when hell freezes over. And that just happened."

However, i really hope for Linux iTunes because my next phone will probably be an iPhone...which needs iTunes to set it all up, right?

[ad_267]

I think I need to start a petition to get Linux users to burn their iPods. Why would you lock yourself in to using an application that works on only two operating systems?

[TheNosh]

I think I need to start a petition to get Linux users to burn their iPods. Why would you lock yourself in to using an application that works on only two operating systems?

rockbox is a beautiful thing. as for the newer ipods i can't really coment. and as for burning ipods... well i think we both know most people will not burn something expensive they payed for.

[nobodysbusiness]

According to a few recent winehq tests, iTunes is now working better on Linux than it used to (including the store). The only reason that I want iTunes is because they're the only DRM-free music seller in Canada with a wide selection of commercial tracks available. I would go with Amazon MP3 if I could. No device support though.

Edit: I just tried installing the latest version of iTunes under the latest version of Wine and the store works great! I can purchase DRM-free music, download it, listen to previews, search, and everything else I'm interested in! This is great news. Music shopping is pretty much the last thing that I use Windows for in my personal affairs (still need it for the occasional work-related thing though).

[runrun395]

I did both the petition and the feedback... i'll keep you posted on their reply

[Dustin2128]

I did both the petition and the feedback... i'll keep you posted on their reply
well thanks for getting the thread closed...

[fatality_uk]

well thanks for getting the thread closed...

Not that it would have mattered much really! You might as well of had a thread to petition Apple to use Windows 7 as it's next OS.









+ in before lock!

[MCVenom]

Ninja - YES! inb4 close

Oh and yeah, it's probably never going to happen. Kinda sad tho.

[alexcckll]

I have just learned of an album I wanted to repurchase ONLY being available via iTunes. TIME - The Musical.

And as I'm 100% Ubuntu - I'm blocked from buying the thing.
THIS really grinds my gears - I'm trying to find out the company it was released through in order to discuss the possibility of them releasing onto other streaming sites I CAN access to buy from...

But it's this that pisses everyone off...

[overdrank]

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