View Full Version : [ubuntu] Getting Rid Of Hardy Heron

May 1st, 2008, 08:36 AM
Hardy Heron S***s. Sorry for being a bit vulgar, but i can't find any other word which fits better a description for this upgrade. I'm not going back to windows but i can't continue using hardy anymore (too much problems to list). Can you please suggest any other debian based distro which is STABLE and fit for a laptop (Pentium M processor 740, 512mb ram). Thanks

El King
May 1st, 2008, 08:40 AM
If you face problems with Hardy Heron, maybe you could try Guty Gibbon (7.10)
Also here is a list of debian based distro's

i'd also recommend Distrowatch, to read and know about the distro ur going to use

May 1st, 2008, 08:41 AM
Sorry to lose you, but I think in another month the release will have stabilized. As far as a good debian... it really depends on what you want to use it for. There are just so many. Why not just go with debian? Its no harder to install than ubuntu. And it boots to practically the same desktop.

May 1st, 2008, 08:45 AM
yeah maybe i'll try debian, in fact it had crossed my mind. i posted here first so i get some sort of quick reviews on other debian based distro from other experienced users. btw i'll missing the ubuntu atmosphere but the situation is too fustrating. cheers for your posts

May 1st, 2008, 08:59 AM
Why does it have to be Debian-based? Fedora, OpenSUSE and PCLinuxOS are all definitely worth a look.

May 1st, 2008, 09:05 AM
opensuse its not debian but a very kool distro

May 1st, 2008, 09:05 AM
Yeah in fact i tried them earlier on this year and even before that, but i got used to synaptic and .deb packaging which i really like. btw mentioning other distros, i found Mepis to be quite good as well, but since it has a small community i didn't get much support (i frequently seek help from forums since i'm a bit of a newbie to the linux world)

May 1st, 2008, 09:06 AM
This doesn't help you, but not everyone is having the same experience with 8.04. I've had very few problems - even Firefox 3 appears to be behaving itself! I have found this the most stable release yet, and thats running 64bit with wireless and 3D effects turned on.

If you're looking for an alternative that is closer to Ubuntu in terms of usability and up-to-date software:

Foresight Linux is the flagship distro for Gnome, very clean and well maintained - http://www.foresightlinux.org/gnome.html (screenshot: http://www.foresightlinux.org/img/screenshots/brasero.png)

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, with a faster release cycle and some differences in philosophy - http://www.linuxmint.com/ (screenshots: http://www.linuxmint.com/screenshots.php)

Of course, you may already know about these. I like Debian too, but it's nice to have some options...

May 1st, 2008, 09:08 AM
Instead of running away, why not try to solve your problems that are occuring...? You have noe mentioned whats wrong.. you just said that it sucks

Thats kinda not fair

May 1st, 2008, 09:17 AM
Yeah in fact i tried them earlier on this year and even before that, but i got used to synaptic and .deb packaging which i really like.

PCLinuxOS uses Synaptic. It uses .rpm packages, but you'll never notice the difference, really. You can even get it with Gnome instead of KDE now.

May 1st, 2008, 09:29 AM
i'll just mention a few to play the game right....

1) Boot time takes a bit longer (maybe 3-5 seconds more)

2) Logging in takes about a minute, it seems that the system is continously swapping

(adding time taken by 1) + 2) and comparing to windows boot time, windows boots faster especially if i use hibernate)

3) hibernation doesn't work here

4) AWN doesn't work at all

5) XMMS disappeared

6) Mercury Messenger was working quite well on gutsy, now it's behaving really strange. Sometimes it doesn't start and when it does start it takes to long.

7) The power button (on the top right corner) seems to be broken as well, i switch off my laptop using ALT + BACKSPACE and shutdown from there.

8 ) Overall applications speed seems to have slowed down

9) Firefox is a disaster but everyone's having a problem with that, so it is a sort of consolation

10) I'm a music enthusiast, i continually use nicotine which now doesn't respond after it is loaded to ram.

Right now i'm very busy and have no time to try and fix this and that, I'm no expert either so that's why i chose to get rid of hardy and try some other.

May 1st, 2008, 09:30 AM
I would say go to Gutsy 7.10 until hardy is really stable. Ubuntu Xubuntu or Kubuntu, whatever your flavor it's stable.

May 2nd, 2008, 04:20 AM
A big question is why Hardy isn't stable for a LOT of people yet. A bigger question is if it will ever be that stable. This is the release that was supposed to be rock solid. It isn't. Very disappointing.