How much timeto go?

[adityakavoor]

Its 10 am here in India. How many hours still more to wait ??? :confused:

[alexsabree]

yeah what time zone are they going by?

its 11:20PM @ Central Time Zone

[Dark Aspect]

yeah what time zone are they going by?

its 11:20PM @ Central Time Zone

I believe they go by Central because I stayed up till midnight to download gutsy and they updated they're site at around that time.

[Knight319]

yeah what time zone are they going by?

its 11:20PM @ Central Time Zone
30 more minutes. I was looking at the countdown timer and when it hit 12 pm central last night, the timer changed from 2 days to 1.

[adityakavoor]

I have applied leave today just to download hardy

[Dark Aspect]

I have applied leave today just to download hardy

lol wow and I thought I loved Ubuntu.Don't know if I would go that far I am about ready to power off my computer and go to bed (I am Central,11:32)

[SunnyRabbiera]

well its midnight here...
it probably will take some time.

[schauerlich]

lol wow and I thought I loved Ubuntu.Don't know if I would go that far I am about ready to power off my computer and go to bed (I am Central,11:32)

But, your uptime!

[myusername]

my dad gets super pissed if i leave my pc on so i have to turn mine off at night

[elamericano]

4 more hours to go.

(of course I could be completely wrong...)

[myusername]

^maybe just a little off there ^

[Saya]

Gee. Nowhere does it state a specific time, only a date. Accept that it could be at any time. Do a dist upgrade and you've got the final version, all you're waiting for is the CD images.

[alexsabree]

Stop being so negative :D

[Saya]

Stop being so negative :D
Stom assuming things. :(

[colorcol]

i want to check my picture

[myusername]

i want to check my picture

??

anyway i think its about 6 minutes to go

[Vaelrith]

I believe they go by Central because I stayed up till midnight to download gutsy and they updated they're site at around that time.

It changes when your computer's clock changes to 12 am, no matter where you are.

[colorcol]

??

anyway i think its about 6 minutes to go

mmmm,i just want to check my profile picture,it can'
t display correctly.
i uploaded the picture with right conditions....
g d!

[myusername]

http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop
release info!!

[JayBee808]

Just hit midnight here. Now the counter says "Coming Soon". Still only have the release candidates available for download. I promised co-workers copies for tomorrow. I hope it shows up soon.

[Google Spider]

I have applied leave today just to download hardy

...and I didn't go to college either:guitar:

[Bradleylicious]

Well in NY it is 1:10...still not up yet... :(

[elamericano]

http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop
release info!!

Yeah. According to that it's already released. You just don't have it yet.

[myusername]

hey does anybody know where they make annoucements?

[Dark Aspect]

It changes when your computer's clock changes to 12 am, no matter where you are.

True,to prove this theory I set my clock backwards by several days and the site said such and such amount of days to go.

Well Good night Ubuntu forums :) It could actually be 11:59 PM tonight since there is not a set time on the 24th.I would stay up all night hitting the refresh button over and over again but that for some reason sounds childish to me.

[Saya]

Yeah. According to that it's already released. You just don't have it yet.
Do a update-manager -d and you will have it.

[maver1ck4000]

Now that Harvey Birdman is over they will be able to concentrate enough to get the web site updated :D

OH NOES ANOTHER EPISODE!@#$

[adityakavoor]

c'mon canonical release it fast

[jhaskins]

It's 3:15PM here now and I'm going crazy waiting!!!

[locky28]

:mad::mad::mad:

It's 3pm on Thursday the 24th here in Aus (GMT+10) and it's still not out :(

I was all excited this morning when I got to work and when to check the countdown timer expecting to see an hourly countdown or something, "coming soon" was quite the anti-climax :P


I have applied leave today just to download hardy

LOL your f*n hardcore dude, good effort :P

Can't wait, we got a long weekend down here to for ANZAC day (Lest We Forget) So I'll have plenty of time to get a fresh install all up and running.

/home backed up and ready to roll!

P.S. Anybody know how well the servers are going to handle the bandwidth at initial release?

[myusername]

it would be really funny if we all went and filed a bunch of bug reports right now

[jhaskins]

At least with Windows it gets released on time. Whether it's actually ready for release though is another matter.

[SirThom]

it would be really funny if we all went and filed a bunch of bug reports right now

I'm on it!

[locky28]

LOL, like, how many months late was Vista from it's initial release date?

[retrow]

P.S. Anybody know how well the servers are going to handle the bandwidth at initial release?Torrents. Always use torrents in the first week. You get better speeds and the mirrors don't max out.

[maver1ck4000]

I think it would be better if this was released as a winblows automatic update

[locky28]

How long will it take for the torrents to get up and running?

[myusername]

I think it would be better if this was released as a winblows automatic update

i guess that would be called the orange screen of death by some people

[Foster Grant]

At least with Windows it gets released on time. Whether it's actually ready for release though is another matter.

When was the last time any version of Windows was released on time?

Canonical will have the new software up sometime Thursday in their local time zone, which I believe is GMT (aka UTC).

[SirThom]

At least with Windows it gets released on time. Whether it's actually ready for release though is another matter.
Microsoft releases everything late. They just stay a bit more liquid about their release dates.

[Bradleylicious]

At least with Windows it gets released on time. Whether it's actually ready for release though is another matter.

But where can you download a copy of Windows? To the best of my knowledge you buy it in a store...a little bit different no?

[jhaskins]

I think it would be better if this was released as a winblows automatic update

Yeah, but I would probably fail the Windows Genuine Advantage validation needed to install it.

[myusername]

actually i thought i saw a thing on ms website about how you could buy and download vista

[Saya]

But where can you download a copy of Windows? To the best of my knowledge you buy it in a store...a little bit different no?
You can download most Microsoft programs on MSDN etc.

[SirThom]

But where can you download a copy of Windows? To the best of my knowledge you buy it in a store...a little bit different no?

Didn't somebody make an open source Windows compatible Windows clone?

[jhaskins]

You can download most Microsoft programs on MSDN etc.

Don't forget The Pirate Bay.

[maver1ck4000]

i guess that would be called the orange screen of death by some people

Lol, I actually got the blue screen of death on my virtualbox windows xp pro when I opened netmeeting, it was funny to see a virtual machine crash.

[myusername]

reactOS...isnt that what its called? btw how'd we go from the hardy release to microsoft

[Saya]

Don't forget The Pirate Bay.
I thought we were talking about legitimate online releases of Microsoft software. TPB is illegal.

[Bradleylicious]

Didn't somebody make an open source Windows compatible Windows clone?

http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

Back on topic... Hardy? Time zone release? Sadly waiting... :P

[jhaskins]

I thought we were talking about legitimate online releases of Microsoft software. TPB is illegal.

Sorry. I'm just talking nonsense due to the stress of waiting for 8.04!!!

[retrow]

How long will it take for the torrents to get up and running?They are all released at the same time. Instead if the desktop iso, go for the torrent file and try to seed it for a little while if you can. Gutsy was released around 6AM GMT.

[SirThom]

http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html ??

That looks like it. I wonder if anybody uses it? It seems like the only advatage would be that it's free, and otherwise it would combine disadvantages of Microsoft and Linux.

[myusername]

i wouldnt use it but it looks promising

[powerpleb]

Didn't somebody make an open source Windows compatible Windows clone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

I don't think it's anywhere near finished

[Google Spider]

That looks like it. I wonder if anybody uses it? It seems like the only advatage would be that it's free, and otherwise it would combine disadvantages of Microsoft and Linux.
I tried the Live CD. Its in alpha and piece of crap until now. Doesn't even recognize my mouse and keyboard....but that's what alphas can do ;)

[myusername]

i don't think it ever will be

[imT]

But where can you download a copy of Windows? To the best of my knowledge you buy it in a store...a little bit different no?
he, he, he....how about torrents, warez-forums...and there's also lot's of flavors/distros; just that they're called windows "mod-ed" instead of windows distro's :popcorn: you can download windows copy's if you want to and even before the release date :popcorn: but who wants that awful 0s anyway ?

[majician]

anyone in the pacific time zone?

[SirThom]

http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

Back on topic... Hardy? Time zone release? Sadly waiting... :P

Oh my God! Something shiney! A distraction from the topic!

Let's talk about electric tea kettles!

I don't think they've really caught on in the states, yet. Having a traditional kettle on the stove seems to be the most common.

[myusername]

as stated before...we were talking about legit copies

[Irihapeti]

I don't suppose the devs are sitting there with their fingers poised over the upload button while they wait for the alarm clock to go off.

But maybe they are watching the forums, laughing at all the people getting really wound up about it, and when they've got bored with this they'll release it.

Makes a good story, anyway. :)

[Saya]

but who wants that awful 0s anyway ?
92% (http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8)

[maver1ck4000]

Yeah, as long as it's not based off the same stupid bloated registry and shared dll's, otherwise it would be interesting to see a version of windows that is fast.

[powerpleb]

I tried the Live CD. Its in alpha and piece of crap until now. Doesn't even recognize my mouse and keyboard....but that's what alphas can do ;)

What's the point of it anyway other than just a very geeky experiment. Windows sucks, those developers would better spend their time improving ways of running native windows software on Linux and similar OSs.

[Bradleylicious]

92% (http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8)

Well put...

[SirThom]

92% (http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8)

I actually feel slight leetism about linux. I was watching a DVD to study for the Actuarial exams, and the fellow had his computer hooked up with a touch screen to draw on and we say his screen and that. When it came on I snickered, 'Ha! He uses Windows. What a looser.'

The other person at the table asked me what I used.

And of course I started showing off ubuntu,

[SirThom]

What's the point of it anyway other than just a very geeky experiment. Windows sucks, those developers would better spend their time improving ways of running native windows software on Linux and similar OSs.

SOmebody needs to bring back CP/M. That was a fine operating system!

[Bradleylicious]

SOmebody needs to bring back CP/M. That was a fine operating system!

I will bring it back...but what do you want to use it for... :P

[SirThom]

I will bring it back...but what do you want to use it for... :P

The new open source version of Electric Pencil will leave OpenOffice in the dust.

[Bradleylicious]

The new open source version of Electric Pencil will leave OpenOffice in the dust.

Touché!

[jhaskins]

I just drew the Ubuntu boot-up screen onto my monitor with crayons to help subdue the desperate cravings for it to be RELEASED!

[SirThom]

The new open source version of Electric Pencil will leave OpenOffice in the dust.

Strike that! WordStar! That's what I meant. dBASE, KAMAS, Multiplan.

Just imagine! Everything that we know about computers redesigned with a fresh philosophy building on the roots. Sort of like if a cluster of society gets separated and evolves in parallel into a completely different society.

If CP/M had a gui, would it be based on the mouse/icon/window/menu metaphor that we all know so well, or minus the influence of the XEROX Alto would it become something completely different?

Would we have mice?

Would we have pointers?

[SirThom]

Strike that! WordStar! That's what I meant. dBASE, KAMAS, Multiplan.

Just imagine! Everything that we know about computers redesigned with a fresh philosophy building on the roots. Sort of like if a cluster of society gets separated and evolves in parallel into a completely different society.

If CP/M had a gui, would it be based on the mouse/icon/window/menu metaphor that we all know so well, or minus the influence of the XEROX Alto would it become something completely different?

Would we have mice?

Would we have pointers?

It's an interesting thought experiment, really. Take away the mouse and everything you know, and rebuild an advanced operating system as evolved from CP/M. Back in the late 70s, everybody was into AI. Maybe a computer that responds to natural language commands with the same capacity and efficiency that we use a mouse and keyboard. Of course, people would probably learn how to phrase things based on knowing what the computer can figure out on it's own. If the computer can't figure out how to do the steps for a task in the most efficient way, it asks me for clarification in natural speech, and I respond. For example, 'Computer, using a QR decomposition for finding your inverses, please find the best fit of the Y values in column 1 of this data to the predictor variables in the remaining columns.'
'That is a rather ambiguous question, sir. By what method shall I determine the relevant predictor variables?'
'Do it with R squares, and then also do a forward stepwise.'
'Here is your data, sir.'

[BrokeBody]

...and I didn't go to college either

Me neither. :p

Anyway, I heard on IRC that CD image will be available on the main server by 23:59 in Western Samoa and it's GMT-11 over there. :lolflag:

[jhaskins]

Would we have pointers?

I don't know about pointers, but my crayons are serving me well. I've just recreated OpenOffice thanks to Crayola(tm).

[tqft]

...Maybe a computer that responds to natural language commands with the same capacity and efficiency that we use a mouse and keyboard. Of course, people would probably learn how to phrase things based on knowing what the computer can figure out on it's own. If the computer can't figure out how to do the steps for a task in the most efficient way, it asks me for clarification in natural speech, and I respond. ...'

Maybe an interface more Newton like?

[marko_4454]

Just hit midnight here. Now the counter says "Coming Soon". Still only have the release candidates available for download. I promised co-workers copies for tomorrow. I hope it shows up soon.

Last time I waited, I remember that it was after midnight (CA Time). So there is still an hour or so to go. I actually dont remember if it was midnight or 1AM but one of those.
Also, downloading will be a drag at first, so I dont think you will be able to have them by tomorrow. Try torrent, it should be faster than http.

[SirThom]

Me neither. :p

Anyway, I heard on IRC that CD image will be available on the main server by 23:59 in Western Samoa and it's GMT-11 there. :lolflag:

It's 19.06 there now.

Ahh, colonialism!

[SirThom]

Maybe an interface more Newton like?

That would make sense. Touch screens were the rage then to. Without a mouse you don't necessarily think of the click-drag interface. It would probably be all on-screen buttons, and maybe some drawing.

It would probably still have a keyboard though. The standards of computer technology would have to evolve pretty far before we got to things that were really comfortable and convenient to write on. Even a display integrated into a desk is awkward (imagine a CRT facing up with a touch screen), because people like to hold paper and different angles and move it about.

[adityakavoor]

Me neither. :p

Anyway, I heard on IRC that CD image will be available on the main server by 23:59 in Western Samoa and it's GMT-11 there. :lolflag:

so 6 more hours ?????

[spamzilla]

patience


pa·tience [ páysh'nss ]


noun
Definition:

1. capacity for waiting: the ability to endure waiting, delay, or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to persevere calmly when faced with difficulties
I was beginning to run out of patience.


lose (your) patience (with somebody) to become exasperated by somebody

[BrokeBody]

so 6 more hours ?????

Current time in Western Samoa (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.co.uk/time-zone/pacific/western-samoa/)

[adityakavoor]

patience


pa·tience [ páysh'nss ]


noun
Definition:

1. capacity for waiting: the ability to endure waiting, delay, or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to persevere calmly when faced with difficulties
I was beginning to run out of patience.


lose (your) patience (with somebody) to become exasperated by somebody

I agree

[SirThom]

OK comrades!

I am closing ubuntu forums from my web browser for tonight. There is a huge test that I am supposed to be cramming for (hence my manic posts due to excessive stimulants), I've been completely anti-social due to a busy week, I can't justify a break until Sunday afternoon, and here I am goofing off for hours talking about ubuntu and stuff. I won't even install it until after a day or two to get a quick speed because I need my machine for the next for days.

So take well, and keep rocking the world Ubuntu style.
:guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::g uitar::guitar:

[adityakavoor]

I'l be back after a shower. Hope its released by then

[BrokeBody]

Me too...

[myusername]

ok i just tried the sudo update-manager -d thing and its not finding anything. are they completly dropping xubuntu or something?

[dmb]

It will get released when its ready.

[graabein]

Just got out of the shower. Thought I could start downloading the torrent before I'm off for work...

[BrokeBody]

Imagine that in these very last minutes they do what they did with the first LTS... .06 :lolflag:

[myusername]

did they do that in the last few minutes? really?

[BrokeBody]

They did, but not in the last minutes, but who knows for this one. :D

[mj-barton]

Its 11:48pm here. I'm pacific standard time over in Seattle.

[toxicgtr]

Does anyone know if they have made any changes from the release candiate to the final?

[calc]

I have applied leave today just to download hardy

You could have just downloaded one of the last daily's then rsync'ed it to the current version. Probably would only download a few bytes if anything.

[calc]

Does anyone know if they have made any changes from the release candiate to the final?

Yes, lots of changes.

[Jaywalker2309]

Yes, lots of changes.

That a guess or is there a link with changenotes?

[calc]

That a guess or is there a link with changenotes?

An easy way to tell what was updated is install the RC and then update from there you will probably get several hundred MB of updates.

I maintain openoffice.org so I know at minimum it was updated...

[B3n3v3nt3]

9 am here in Lisbon, I hope it will be available soon so that I can download it at my university and try it right away when I get home ^^

Have a nice day everyone.

[adityakavoor]

You could have just downloaded one of the last daily's then rsync'ed it to the current version. Probably would only download a few bytes if anything.

I promised to give a copy to my friends tonight

[Jaywalker2309]

I promised to give a copy to my friends tonight

Hehe never promise something if you're not 100% responsible for it. You cant be sure whats gonna happen :)

[spamzilla]

As I said earlier


patience


pa·tience [ páysh'nss ]


noun
Definition:

1. capacity for waiting: the ability to endure waiting, delay, or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to persevere calmly when faced with difficulties
I was beginning to run out of patience.


lose (your) patience (with somebody) to become exasperated by somebody

[Ub1476]

I think Gutsy was released around 6pm in my timezone (+1). It's now 11.09am.

[Rabindranath]

It seems Hardy is released. :guitar:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/

[quanumphaze]

And right on time for the ANZAC Day long weekend

Best timing ever :guitar:

[SirThom]

Well, mine is taking a few more hours to download, but I figure as long as it hasn't started the installation bit it's safe to use the machine.

So yeah, this is going to be pretty awesome.

Now back to studying for me.
:guitar:

[BrokeBody]

I guess I hit the jackpot :)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2402/slowxl6.png

:cool:

[sports fan Matt]

Since Im fully patched and upgraded, Do I need to bother with anything , would a dist upgrade help? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?

[zmjjmz]

When does Update Manager tell me it's time to upgrade?

[sports fan Matt]

I have received no updates or anything through Sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or anything..Im fully patched..What else can i try?

[Foster Grant]

@sox fan Matt and zmjjmz: You might want to check your repository locations and add some repositories that are updated more frequently.

I also suggest using Update Manager rather than apt-get or Synaptic. UM is already telling me 8.04 is available. It won't put the orange icon in the notification area, though; you have to load it.

(I'm going to wait a bit, so everybody else can deal with unfound bugs and I can take advantage of their blood, sweat and sacrifice. :D )

[sports fan Matt]

Which ones can I add? which ones do you have?

[sports fan Matt]

Im running 8.04, and have been for awhile. My question is there are no updates to the programs in 8.04 as others have observed too..Sorry if I was confusing

[Foster Grant]

Im running 8.04, and have been for awhile. My question is there are no updates to the programs in 8.04 as others have observed too..Sorry if I was confusing

Your computer probably updated yesterday when the RC was frozen and went gold.